Yanti & Salty Straight-Up Ridiculous Manatees Part 5 - FULL (Page 14)

amd723 - 2012-09-05 5:13 PM

Glad you made that addition as I spray my dog in the face with water all the time - he loves it!  In fact, i just finished giving him a bath (outside w/ a hose) and afterwards I let him chase the water while it is full on blast.  It hits him all over his body including his face.  If i hold the hose still, he will stick his muzzle into the stream or that spot above his tale. He is one happy dog.  The neighborhood gets a kick out of his performance.

TriAya - 2012-09-05 5:16 PM

I'm just seeing this all happen

 

As for Salty, pffffft ... she was talking about putting kittens in tacos in CoJ! The horror!

rrrunner - 2012-09-05 4:47 PM

Ok panicking again! Working on a training plan for my HIM (to start after my next OLY).  I'm looking at the HIM training plan thread in TT and they are talking about 5 running days a week! I can't do 3 swims 3 bikes AND 5 runs! I'll end up divorced! (not really DH is super supportive, but STILL).

I am mainly going with the new improved Fink plan but I'm trying to fit 3 of each S/B/R per week. Does that sound reasonable? I mean of course it will depend on the length of those sessions (there are a few 4 hour bikes and 2 hour runs toward the end of the plan). I'm thinking my weekly runs will be 1:2:3ish, the bikes are 1hr-ish during the week then a weekly long ride.

Thoughts?

Back to the Manatee chatter, er... whatever sound Manatee's make.

I refuse to read those threads anymore.  After all, what makes those folks more knowledgeable then Fink?  That said, my long runs are way longer then his plan calls for, eg, I will probably max the run out at 18 miles (right now i'm at 15 with 7 weeks to go).  If 8 weeks of long rides of 3-4hrs (4 of them 4hr) is not enough, then screw it I've got to have some life!

 

Asalzwed - 2012-09-05 5:19 PM

I'm calling the cops!

Asalzwed - 2012-09-06 6:19 AM

I'm calling the cops!

TriAya - 2012-09-05 5:29 PM

You forgot. Everyone in here IS cops.

amd723 - 2012-09-05 4:26 PM

rrrunner - 2012-09-05 5:36 PM

Thanks for the perspective!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel my life coming back already!

TriAya - 2012-09-06 6:05 AM

Should I order pancakes from McDonald's?

Do I even need to be asking?

Asalzwed - 2012-09-05 5:38 PM

Hmmm, sorry I am not overly familiar with HIM plans. They have you doing an 18 mile long run? 

amd723 - 2012-09-06 6:26 AM

I refuse to read those threads anymore.  After all, what makes those folks more knowledgeable then Fink?  That said, my long runs are way longer then his plan calls for, eg, I will probably max the run out at 18 miles (right now i'm at 15 with 7 weeks to go).  If 8 weeks of long rides of 3-4hrs (4 of them 4hr) is not enough, then screw it I've got to have some life!

amd723 - 2012-09-05 6:13 PM

no, i have me doing it   Fink's competitive plan maxes out at a 2 hr run (whatever that is for you).  I am trying to keep my mileage up as i MAY be doing a marathon after the HIM.  Also, i want to have a strong run base for the half.

TriAya - 2012-09-05 6:23 PM

The thing about the Fink plans--any canned plans--is that they're somewhat of a generic low-to-happy medium that will definitely work for most people with average schedules and, being on the safe side, are unlikely to cause problems if executed remotely wisely (e.g., not the way I do anything). However, they're not actually usually an optimal way to train, and definitely unlikely to be optimal for any given individual.

TJ, what you've described IS the Fink plan ... 3x SBR each/week. The only difference is that Competitive usually (not always) has 4 B /week. 56 miles in an S/R sandwich is a long-azz bike and if possible, you should try to squeeze the 4th in. If you can't, redistribute the 45-minute ride as +15 to the other 3 ... and put more oomph into those 15 extra minutes.

As for running, following whatever's there on the Intermediate plan will get you finishing the race, no problem. Is it wiser, easier on the body, better run training to train the SAME AMOUNT, but spread over 5 runs (not equally)? Yes. But if you can't do that, don't sweat it. You'll be fine on what you can do. You'd be fine on the Just Finish, too. It just comes down, and all of us make these decisions, about what level of prep we're okay with for what kind of performance, and how much discomfort we're willing to put up with on race day and in recovery.

spudone - 2012-09-05 4:07 PM

I used my normal race ones (Bontrager R4 Aero).  There are sections of the road that are a little rough but by no means the worst I've ridden on.  Arms and neck get tired from being on the aero bars constantly, since it is a flat course.  If you need to sit up and stretch out, wait till the wind is at your back.

I'd avoid running any 19mm tires but aside from that, anything else you normally use should be ok.

 

*SIDE NOTE: I heard the road quality IS pretty bad at New Zealand.  I haven't ridden there but you might want to get some feedback on that one.  EST guys know it well.  Check with their mechanic (Dan) who lives in Sydney -- I'm sure he's been over there many times.

bcraht - 2012-09-05 4:08 PM Sooooo, I have a race scheduled on my log that I haven't actually signed up for.  It is on Sunday.  An Oly.  I really want to do it, but I haven't been on my bike (well, only twice) since my HIM, and I shouldn't really spend any more money.  IF I were to do it, I would race the swim and the run, but cruise the bike.  Just needed some witnesses to my dilemma.  I already know what y'all will say.  Hi my name is Kirsten and I am a tri-a-holic. 

rrrunner - 2012-09-05 4:47 PM

Ok panicking again! Working on a training plan for my HIM (to start after my next OLY).  I'm looking at the HIM training plan thread in TT and they are talking about 5 running days a week! I can't do 3 swims 3 bikes AND 5 runs! I'll end up divorced! (not really DH is super supportive, but STILL).

I am mainly going with the new improved Fink plan but I'm trying to fit 3 of each S/B/R per week. Does that sound reasonable? I mean of course it will depend on the length of those sessions (there are a few 4 hour bikes and 2 hour runs toward the end of the plan). I'm thinking my weekly runs will be 1:2:3ish, the bikes are 1hr-ish during the week then a weekly long ride.

Thoughts?

Back to the Manatee chatter, er... whatever sound Manatee's make.

 

Asalzwed - 2012-09-05 6:53 PM Hello Jo, how many smiles we got today? 

rrrunner - 2012-09-05 7:29 PM So I'm back to "should" do 4 bikes & 5 runs :-/

rrrunner - 2012-09-06 8:29 AM So I'm back to "should" do 4 bikes & 5 runs :-/

jobaxas - 2012-09-06 8:34 AM

My aim is three of each - coz I wanna life.  BUT I may squeeze in an extra bike trainer ride for T.I.T.S coz I'm so weak at this discipline!    I would swim every day if my DH didn't want a life too....I have a pool maybe I should turn it into one of those training ones, doesn't cost much to do it apparently....then I could swim every day!

No way I'm running more than three, I need a day between to recover - according to Jeff Galloway anyways!

TriAya - 2012-09-05 7:49 PM

There may be reasons to run three days a week, but Jeff is not one of them. The thing about Galloway plans is that most people take them out of context. For his beginning plans (the vast majority of his target audience is beginners), that means strictly adhering to the entire plan, along with run:walk ratios and lowered paces.

Once you start aiming for any kind of time (not to "just finish"), you're an advanced marathoner in Galloway's world. They do indeed do back-to-back days on occasion and are to cross-train (preferably walking--which since all his set programs are run:walk, is actually a sneaky way of sneaking in more "run" training).

The advanced program also brings runners up to a 30-mile long run. Again, this would not be a good idea unless one has really strictly followed the rest of his program, as well as the specific guidelines for the very long runs.

All right, none of that is particularly relevant unless you're using Galloway programs to train for a stand-alone run race ...

TriAya - 2012-09-05 6:05 PM

Should I order pancakes from McDonald's?

Do I even need to be asking?