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2014-06-03 8:20 AM in reply to: UTTriman |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Hey Gang! Been CRAZY busy since Sunday - I hate missing even a day here because things happen FAST! Congrats on the good races this past weekend! I had my annual bikeMS on Sunday (65 miles) then bike shop ride last night (31 miles with 2592' elevation gain) and today I'm a vegetable. Tonight is the free course trial for our weekly off road tri series. I was only going to do a few as a relay this year but as the evening gets closer I may register for 6 solo I should get more caffeine and get to work. Keep up the good work - I'm watching, even if I'm not posting! |
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2014-06-03 8:22 AM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by glfprncs Jason...have you seen this yet? Triple T Recap 2014: http://youtu.be/aZE_vtUSa4Y Hey, that is me riding through with the orange compression top from :58-1:00 of the video. Just trying to stay warm and survive the ride. Doesn't look like you! LOL |
2014-06-03 8:39 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Extreme Veteran 678 Rome, NY | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Sorry I have been away This weekend Super Sprint went well for me I went 1:00:34 Losing to my best buddy by 14 seconds so I took 2nd OA Splits were 250 Pool Swim 3:41 12 mile bike 33.26 - 20.6 MPH on a course with lots of elevation http://connect.garmin.com/activity/510746137 3 mile run sloppy cross country run all on grass 21:49 Overall very happy with the results considering I have not raced since 2012 and I went 58:?? on the same course while getting ready fro IM. My question is in 2012 I was swimming 10,000 yards a week and swam the same 250 pool swim in 3:20 with NO SWIMMING AT ALL since the end of 2012 I was only 20 secs. slower. I was a 1:04 IM swimmer in 2012 as well. It sort of shows me that even though I do get faster when I swim all the time the rate of investment seems DIM. I just built a tether for my home pool so I plan on getting at least 3 - 30 mins swims in a week for the rest of the summer before my 70.3 in late Aug |
2014-06-03 9:03 AM in reply to: triguy1043 |
59 | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Hey everyone, busy weekend for me no time for the internet. Congratulations to everyone one that raced this past weekend looks like we had a few. Was able to get out to the lake on Saturday morning for a little swim and then a 4 mile run around the lake. Felt really nice to run in a new area, some new scenery makes the run even better. Hoping to get outta work in time this evening to do a bike/run workout. I jave been doing a few hill repeats over the last few weeks myself. The hill is pretty gradual but long, I have been running fast enough to be totally winded by the time I get to the top and then a nice easy recovery on the way down. I would say that by the time I get to the top I am spent and couldnt go any higher. I repeat this like 4 times with a nice easy mile warmup and cooldown the total milage for the workout is like 5.5 miles am I pushing myself too hard by doing this once a week. The rest of my runs for the week are always at a nice easy pace. |
2014-06-03 1:19 PM in reply to: AkABuzz |
Extreme Veteran 990 Collierville, Tennessee | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Ok, quick check-in. I've got my school graduation tonight, and then finishing school and moving at the end of this week. I should be able to get back to normal next week, life should settle down some! Here's my RR report from IM Raleigh 70.3 on Sunday-still working on nutrition, obviously! But I still PRed over last year http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid... I promise I'll be back to normal soon! |
2014-06-03 8:13 PM in reply to: WoodrowCall |
Master 3058 South Alabama | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Jamie-nice race report. Good job in Raleigh. Been on the road today. Easy hour on the bike tonight. Son is having his left knee scoped tomorrow. He has been dealing with some residual pain for the last 5-6 months despite PT, cortisone injections etc. He is ready to find out what is going on. Nothing is showing up on the MRIs so ortho is not sure what is causing the issue. Hopefully, it will be something really minor. |
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2014-06-03 8:54 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
504 | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Did a 30 minute tempo run yesterday 5K in 23:30. I think I could have done it in 23 flat but would have barfed on all the cute girls on the path. AND I shredded some intervals on the bike the night before. 45 minutes steady on the trainer tonight. Would like to swim tomorrow, but I have kids activities and my sunburn will kill in the wet suit. First race next week. 5K trail race. |
2014-06-04 8:32 AM in reply to: skibummer |
Expert 4921 Middle River, Maryland | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Got my RR up: Rock Hall International Triathlon Just for the record - OLYs are a blast. Got in a short run yesterday and went to spin class this morning with The Wife. I feel just about recovered, though I know I need a little more Transition Phase before I started hitting it again. I'm about the pull the trigger on my first HIM, Waterman's Half, which is at the exact same location as the one I did over the weekend. Protected harbor wetsuit swim, flat bike, flat run, weather should be in the low 70s, late-ish start. I think that sets up pretty well. I wouldn't even have to change my training much; just stretch out my long run to maybe 11 miles and get some long bikes in later in the summer. |
2014-06-04 8:45 AM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Got my RR up: Rock Hall International Triathlon Just for the record - OLYs are a blast. Got in a short run yesterday and went to spin class this morning with The Wife. I feel just about recovered, though I know I need a little more Transition Phase before I started hitting it again. I'm about the pull the trigger on my first HIM, Waterman's Half, which is at the exact same location as the one I did over the weekend. Protected harbor wetsuit swim, flat bike, flat run, weather should be in the low 70s, late-ish start. I think that sets up pretty well. I wouldn't even have to change my training much; just stretch out my long run to maybe 11 miles and get some long bikes in later in the summer. PULL IT!! I'm such a sucker. Last year I did 6 of 10 Tuesday night weekly off road tris. I loved them but they completely wrecked me for Wednesday. So this year I said I'd just do a few as a relay team and I'd just bike. So after a conversation with Mike P, he said on Tuesdays I'm scheduled to swim and run anyway so why not just bike too and see how it goes. So last night I paid for 5 (if you prepay it's a slight discount and you get a tech shirt!). Hopefully I'm in better shape this year and it won't QUITE kill me LOL Oh and I'm still going to relay the others! That's all that's new here. Off to go read a Raleigh and Rock Hall race reports. |
2014-06-04 8:57 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 3058 South Alabama | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Randee-good for you! You got alot of good experience last year doing that series. |
2014-06-04 1:35 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Veteran 976 New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Got my RR up: Rock Hall International Triathlon Just for the record - OLYs are a blast. Got in a short run yesterday and went to spin class this morning with The Wife. I feel just about recovered, though I know I need a little more Transition Phase before I started hitting it again. I'm about the pull the trigger on my first HIM, Waterman's Half, which is at the exact same location as the one I did over the weekend. Protected harbor wetsuit swim, flat bike, flat run, weather should be in the low 70s, late-ish start. I think that sets up pretty well. I wouldn't even have to change my training much; just stretch out my long run to maybe 11 miles and get some long bikes in later in the summer. Glad to hear you had such a great time at the Oly. My first one is in two weeks and I'm looking at times similar to yours, but probably not as quick on the bike (awesome throw down on the bike BTW). I'm basing the Oly experience on whether or not I want to do a late season HIM as well as I'm kind of in the same boat. I could add in some longer runs and bikes all summer and probably have a really good time at an August/September HIM. We'll see though. Congrats on the race. Took the last two days off because of an incoming cold. Worked it out of my system and got back in the water today. Chlorine does not help a sore throat at all. Got a gulp at a turn and it burned. I feel like I'm really making progress in the swim. Last few weeks I've dropped a good 3-5 seconds off my easy 100 pace and 5+ off my all out 100 pace. Today was a bit sluggish due to the cold hanging around but still kicked my butt well. |
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2014-06-04 4:20 PM in reply to: jonD81 |
Master 3205 ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Training for a Half Iron race will make you better and faster at every distance. I have said it before that I think that the HIM is the sweet-spot in triathlon. It is long enough to be an epic experience and require real commitment to training but short enough that it doesn't completely destroy you and require weeks or months to recover from. As I have trained more, both in duration and in number of training sessions per week, it has helped me to set PRs at every distance. I know that some people say that long slow training for iron distance makes them slower at the shorter races but it has had the exact opposite affect on me. I keep getting faster even at Sprints an Olympics. Undoubtedly the confidence you get from the long rides and runs lets you really push your fitness in shorter races. The other thing is that it is very daunting to tackle a half or whole distance race without a plan. It is more possible to just wing it at the Sprint and Oly distances and still do well and have fun. I am a huge believer in having a plan that you follow somewhat diligently in order to get to the start line prepared to have a great day. The longer distances almost force you to follow some sort of plan even if you haven't done so before. It doesn't have to be fancy or custom or expensive. It just has to be a plan and you just have to execute as much of the plan as you can. |
2014-06-04 4:55 PM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED After almost 2 weeks of waiting on a recall part, somebody got her bike back this afternoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody will also be riding her bike tomorrow. Frieda Marie Felt is GIDDY with excitement. |
2014-06-04 6:01 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 3205 ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by triguy1043 Sorry I have been away This weekend Super Sprint went well for me I went 1:00:34 Losing to my best buddy by 14 seconds so I took 2nd OA Splits were 250 Pool Swim 3:41 12 mile bike 33.26 - 20.6 MPH on a course with lots of elevation http://connect.garmin.com/activity/510746137 3 mile run sloppy cross country run all on grass 21:49 Overall very happy with the results considering I have not raced since 2012 and I went 58:?? on the same course while getting ready fro IM. My question is in 2012 I was swimming 10,000 yards a week and swam the same 250 pool swim in 3:20 with NO SWIMMING AT ALL since the end of 2012 I was only 20 secs. slower. I was a 1:04 IM swimmer in 2012 as well. It sort of shows me that even though I do get faster when I swim all the time the rate of investment seems DIM. I just built a tether for my home pool so I plan on getting at least 3 - 30 mins swims in a week for the rest of the summer before my 70.3 in late Aug I am very impressed. Nice racing and great result. The return on swimming investment might be dim but the 21 seconds lost between 2012 and this year would have put you at the top of the podium........ Interesting comment about the swim and the similarity in your times given the dramatic difference in swim training. I believe that even the most ardent swimmer will agree that time gains in swimming are very hard to come by. I suspect that I could give up biking and running altogether, spend my 10-12 hours per week swimming only, and see only marginal gains in swim pace. Certainly at the expense of run and bike speed. However, the other side of the coin is the swim fitness that allows you to get to the bike without being gassed so you can put down the hammer as soon as you are on the bike. When I started triathlon racing, just getting out of the water was a major accomplishment for me. I can tell you that it was probably 10 minutes in to the bike before I really was able to get to the work of pedaling hard. With all of my swimming over the last couple years, I have seen a depressingly small gain in swim pace but I am coming out of the water feeling good and ready to get started on the part of the race where I can make up time. It makes a big difference to me. The struggle is finding that point where you are swim training enough to maintain swim fitness and form but not overdoing it so you can maximize the bike and run training where more time can be made up. The last part of this commentary is that you are a better swimmer than the average triathlete. You likely have good form so your lack of swimming doesn't hurt you as much as it does someone like me who relies so much on their conditioning to make up for my glaring technique flaws. 3:20 for 250 yards and 1:04 for an IM swim are very respectable triathlete swim times (swimmers would laugh at those times but I'd like to see them bike and run after ) Edited by wannabefaster 2014-06-04 6:06 PM |
2014-06-04 6:05 PM in reply to: slornow |
Master 3205 ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by slornow Jamie-nice race report. Good job in Raleigh. Been on the road today. Easy hour on the bike tonight. Son is having his left knee scoped tomorrow. He has been dealing with some residual pain for the last 5-6 months despite PT, cortisone injections etc. He is ready to find out what is going on. Nothing is showing up on the MRIs so ortho is not sure what is causing the issue. Hopefully, it will be something really minor. I'll keep my fingers crossed for your son. Having knee surgery is no fun but hopefully if things look good in there he will be back up to speed quickly. It is amazing how fast young folks recover from this kind of thing. |
2014-06-04 6:45 PM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Master 3058 South Alabama | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by slornow I'll keep my fingers crossed for your son. Having knee surgery is no fun but hopefully if things look good in there he will be back up to speed quickly. It is amazing how fast young folks recover from this kind of thing. Jamie-nice race report. Good job in Raleigh. Been on the road today. Easy hour on the bike tonight. Son is having his left knee scoped tomorrow. He has been dealing with some residual pain for the last 5-6 months despite PT, cortisone injections etc. He is ready to find out what is going on. Nothing is showing up on the MRIs so ortho is not sure what is causing the issue. Hopefully, it will be something really minor. Thanks Jason-surgery went well. Seems that he had a rather rare problem involving the plica in his knee. It was rubbing and causing iritation on the outside of the knee. According to the ortho this was kind of a "best case scenario" in terms of what they were hoping to find. Apparently only about 50% of people have a plica and it is very rare that it causes a problem....when it does it is typically in distance runners. He seems to be doing well and should be back to easy running within a couple of weeks. Fortunately, the ortho is on my tri team and he has been checking on Gil weekly since he got home from school. He has really been great and knows how important it is to Gil to get back to running and hopefully be ready for XC season. Everything else in the knee looked great so this looks like the clear culprit. |
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2014-06-04 7:43 PM in reply to: slornow |
Master 3058 South Alabama | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Nancy had mentioned the problems she has had with HRM straps. I've had similar problems in addition to just getting the dang things to work consistently. So, I went old school and ordered the "old style" Garmin strap that is mostly plastic across the front. This was the first HRM strap I ever used several years ago and despite all the "improvements" I'm back to it. Paired right away tonight with my Garmin 500 and was pretty comfortable...no rubbing or abrasions. Maybe newer is not always better.
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2014-06-04 7:50 PM in reply to: 0 |
Member 142 , Georgia | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Restarted my training plan today. Got 30 minutes in on a bike trainer with 10x30" @ 100 RPM. That proved to be pretty difficult by about the 7th rotation. I couldn't hit the 100 RPM on the dot, so I considered an average between 98-101 to be sufficient during those HI splits. Still though, glad to be back on the bike. HR took a while to get into the 170s, but I was thrilled to see it hanging out there for a 10' period during the ride. Keeping it in the Z4 range is sure do some good. Hope the beginning of June has gone well for the rest of you. EDIT: Almost forgot. I got a pair of Orca tri-shorts in yesterday and was wearing a pair on the bike. Let me say that the chamois is going to take A LOT of getting used to after 5 months of wearing bike shorts. I'm loving it though; they don't feel as bulky. :D Edited by PhoenixM 2014-06-04 7:51 PM |
2014-06-04 8:04 PM in reply to: slornow |
New user 234 New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by slornow Nancy had mentioned the problems she has had with HRM straps. I've had similar problems in addition to just getting the dang things to work consistently. So, I went old school and ordered the "old style" Garmin strap that is mostly plastic across the front. This was the first HRM strap I ever used several years ago and despite all the "improvements" I'm back to it. Paired right away tonight with my Garmin 500 and was pretty comfortable...no rubbing or abrasions. Maybe newer is not always better.
That's the one I have. Got it when I got my Garmin 305 probably 5 years ago. I have never had a problem with it and haven't even changed the battery. |
2014-06-04 9:10 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1157 Tremonton, Utah | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by GoldenSprocket Originally posted by slornow That's the one I have. Got it when I got my Garmin 305 probably 5 years ago. I have never had a problem with it and haven't even changed the battery. Nancy had mentioned the problems she has had with HRM straps. I've had similar problems in addition to just getting the dang things to work consistently. So, I went old school and ordered the "old style" Garmin strap that is mostly plastic across the front. This was the first HRM strap I ever used several years ago and despite all the "improvements" I'm back to it. Paired right away tonight with my Garmin 500 and was pretty comfortable...no rubbing or abrasions. Maybe newer is not always better.
I've got the new strap that comes with the 910 and the old style strap that came with my 305. Generally speaking, at least initially, I've preferred the old style strap as well. Had it for about 4 years, and never had a problem until recently when the battery died. 3 dollar battery later works great again. I'm using the new 910 strap currently, It took a little getting used to but it has become a bit more comfortable. Still tend to prefer the old one though.
Edited by UTTriman 2014-06-04 9:12 PM |
2014-06-04 9:15 PM in reply to: UTTriman |
Extreme Veteran 990 Collierville, Tennessee | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Originally posted by UTTriman Originally posted by GoldenSprocket Originally posted by slornow That's the one I have. Got it when I got my Garmin 305 probably 5 years ago. I have never had a problem with it and haven't even changed the battery. Nancy had mentioned the problems she has had with HRM straps. I've had similar problems in addition to just getting the dang things to work consistently. So, I went old school and ordered the "old style" Garmin strap that is mostly plastic across the front. This was the first HRM strap I ever used several years ago and despite all the "improvements" I'm back to it. Paired right away tonight with my Garmin 500 and was pretty comfortable...no rubbing or abrasions. Maybe newer is not always better.
I've got the new strap that comes with the 910 and the old style strap that came with my 305. Generally speaking, at least initially, I've preferred the old style strap as well. Had it for about 4 years, and never had a problem until recently when the battery died. 3 dollar battery later works great again. I'm using the new 910 strap currently, It took a little getting used to but it has become a bit more comfortable. Still tend to prefer the old one though.
I've got the older one, and when I first got it it chafed badly on my sternum. I read a tip that said to wrap it in electrical tape and have been happy ever since. I've changed the batteries twice and it works like a charm. |
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2014-06-04 9:23 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1157 Tremonton, Utah | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Got my swim on tonight. I'm feeling really good about it. Did 1000 yards. About ready to kick it up to 1500. Maybe Friday's swim. I agree with the earlier post about swim training vs. improvement in swim pace. A few years back (2006) when I was in my racing prime and before life and injury got in the way, I was placing consistently in the top 20% of AG and 30% overall. So I was doing well. My swim pace stunk at about 1:55/100 or so. But, I'm convinced the 6-9 thousand yards a week, over three swim workouts SIGNIFICANTLY improved my oxygen efficiency and endurance. My bike times climbed (on a two day a week bike schedule) to an average of about 19 MPH in races, and my run dropped into the low 8's on 2x week runs. My training buddy at the time holds 2 Mountain West Conference swimming records, so our training tended to focus a lot on the swim. I know that the things we did in the pool really helped my overall run and bike performance as well. ENDURANCE is key. We usually did at least 1 swim of 3500 - 4000 yards. That was always a tough one, but we used it to build endurance. At the time, I was racing mostly Sprint distance, so 4000 yard or more training swims was A LOT. But I'm grateful for them. I've been thinking of restructuring my training a bit to better mirror what I did then, but I'm not quite sure I've got enough foundation yet. Particularly given my challenges with my running that we've been talking about. Again gang, thanks for all advice. While most of you are playing around with the BIG HIM/IM events, I'm learning much from you even though I've been actively training for marathons, half marathons, Sprint/Olympic tris over the years. But I'm really if you think about it, starting over given the events of the past couple of years. I'm working hard to try to stay positive, focused, and productive in the workouts.
Edited by UTTriman 2014-06-04 9:25 PM |
2014-06-05 6:17 AM in reply to: 0 |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Randy - glad the son's surgery went well. Better to get it fixed now too! Nancy - congrats on getting your bike back - really it was 2 weeks already? TIME FLIES! on the topic of HRM strap, DH got the polar strap for his garmin HRM per DCR advice and he's been really happy with it. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XCLU66/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_... Going back to the lake tonight - wish me luck! Edited by mtnbikerchk 2014-06-05 6:18 AM |
2014-06-05 6:53 AM in reply to: #4996375 |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED I have that same Polar strap. Slicing me in half. ?? |
2014-06-05 7:31 AM in reply to: glfprncs |
Expert 1157 Tremonton, Utah | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Summer Group-CLOSED Hi Everyone! I ran this morning, following to best I could the advice to keep my HR low. For the first mile I was solid under 160. Big hill comes during mile two, and following the gang's advice, I ran to RPE so I felt consistent with the first mile. HR did go up - as expected - but I still kept it around 165. Legs didn't get rubbery and I felt pretty strong. Biggest challenge of the day though was getting my HR back down. Once I hit 168 or so in one small section, HR did not want to come down and I felt fatigue starting to kick in. I did stop for about 30 seconds at 2.6 miles and let it get back under control. I will confess to pushing the last 1/10 mile as kind of a sprint so the HR topped 170, but only for less than a minute. Bottom line, came in 1 second over goal pace, and felt much stronger the entire run. Thanks for all the advice. Now I need to figure out how to get the HR down when it starts to spike without having to stop to let it calm down. Guess I just run slower... lol. This group is really helping me -- believe it or not ! Thanks!
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