Beth and Yanti's Manatees Mentor Group--FULL! (Page 16)

Great pics!!  Thanks for sharing

Thank you also for the tips and input on breathing while running

My HR always seems to be very high when I run - even when I'm only going like 4 mph - I don't know why that is

I have been taking the walk/run approach and it does seem to be helping quite a bit - Last night's run was actually a bit of a breakthrough for me - my pace was actually under 11 min/mile - I would have never thought I could do that

Truthfully, I had been mulling over this topic in my mind and I tried to force myself to slow down my breathing and to, well, not think about it quite so much - if that makes sense

I ran much further than I ever have without needing to walk, my HR was more regulated throughout the run

and - shhhhhhhhhhhh, don't tell anyone - but it actually was sort of fun  

Hi Erin

For normal runs leading up to a half marathon I usually don't drink anything unless it is very hot and then it is only water.  In a race itself, I carry one 8oz bottle of custom Infinit and sip it during the first couple of miles to get a few extra calories in my system (about 70 calories).  I may reach for water periodically if it is hot, but that is it.  That is me.  You could be very different. I would experiment with water and/or whatever the course is serving on a couple of your longer runs.

When training for marathons, I take my fueling pretty seriously.  I worked with my naturopath, but also relied on the attached article from Kim Mueller, Infinit.  I used similar calculations for my half marathon which is where the one 8oz bottle came from.  If this doesn't make sense let me know.

Suzy 

Beth...Try to make sure that you are breathing with your "belly" and not your "chest".  If that makes any sense.  You need to feel like you are (almost) pushing your stomach out when you inhale instead of having the chest rise.  If you try it this way the stomach will pull the diaphram down and allow more "tidal air" into the lungs (tidal air is the air in the lower part of the lungs that is not exchanged each breath...you only notice it if you have the "wind knocked out of you"

Breathing in a cadance with your feet works for some folks but as you run farther/faster and/or on more hills it can really screw you up. (At least it does me!!)

Also focus on a "conversational pace"...that's a pace you could carry on a conversation with someone else if you were running with them.  If necessary talk out loud (try not to do this around other people   and if you sound "winded" while doing this then slow the pace.

Hope this helps.

Steve

I take pretty much the same approach for a 1/2.  I am just starting to train for a full so that is unknown territory.  I also make sure I have some calories for breakfast (about 1-2 hrs. before the race) and then pretty much do what Suzy does...Then when I get home I eat everything in sight for about 2 days 

I just got an endurance nutrition book that is EXCELLENT...I don't have it handy but I will look up the info and post it.  It covers runners, tri folks, ultra fools...etc.  I recommend it very much.

Steve

Actually it does make sense!  I wouldn't have understood that b4 I did pilates and happened to have a fantastic instructor

that is actually what I tried to do last night, which seemed to help - it just does not seem to come naturally to me 

thanks  

way to put a positive spin on it Erin!

fellow Manatees,

I have been thinking about the challenge a lot - I hope you all don't think I am wimping out, but I am going to stick with my May challenge goals of

run: 5 hrs

bike: 7 hrs

swim: 5 hrs

I will add an additional challenge that I will say something positive about every run!

Truthfully, my life is challenging enough right now with the the whole new job and commuting thing, that I just don't feel I can tackle anything else 

Did some speed/tempo work at the track yesterday...per Dr. Deathwish's plan.  Did 4 miles (16 laps) of sprint the straights and walk the turns.  That $hit was HARD.

But ooooooh today       This morning I did another 1000 yds. session at the pool.  This is only my second at that distance.  This time I did 10x100 yrd.  Wooo Hooo.  this is better than I had hoped and if I keep this up I will learn to like the pool as much as the open road.

No running today but have running intervals and spin class tomorrow.

Hope everyone's training is going well and please be safe out there.

Steve

Hi all,

Just finished catching up on the thread.  Great pictures and lots of solid advice about breathing in the water and on land.  I have difficulty keeping my HR down when I slog, too, so between that and my joint issues, I find running to be a little unenjoyable.  I say a little because I actually like the concept of running and being outside.  Thanks for the information.

I've been thinking a lot about challenge goals.  I see two obstacles to my training.  First, I simply don't get enough sleep.  This is problematic not only in terms of quality workouts but also because when I don't sleep enough it puts my health at risk.  I tend to wait until after my kids go to bed to get things done and then stay up late but still get up at the crack of stupid to train.  Not a good M.O.  My other issue, as I mentioned before, is meds that do funky things to my HR and weight but help my symptoms so it's a double edged sword.

Soooo... a little non-traditional but helpful to me all the same:

1.  I'm going to get 7 or more hours of sleep 5 nights per week.  I do record my # of hours slept in my blog already so I'll continue to do that.
2.  I'm going to log my med dosage/food intake as well as track symptoms.  I have a private log that I keep for this sort of thing that I'm not comfortable sharing in a publicly viewable space so y'all will just have to trust me on that .  I will put some sort of sassy notation in my blog that it's been done.

Mila...Great challenge for you this month...Just something to think about on the sleep...I read some interesting stuff on sleep several years ago about "sleep cycles".  It talked about the body and how most all of us sleep in 1.5 hr cycles and that it is important to wake up as close to the top (beginning) of a cycle as possible.  When you wake at the beginning of a cycle you are not in as deep a sleep as you are when you are 45 minutes into the cycle.  When you awaken from the deep part of the cycle you are more groggy and it takes much longer for you to get going for the day.  Wake up at the top of a cycle and you awaken much more fresh and ready to go.  Oddly enough you are better off with 45 minutes less sleep if it means waking at the top of the sleep cycle.

I tried this out myself( over a period of about 1 year), as did my wife and my sister-in-law...dang if it didn't work for all of us.  When I am thinking about going to bed I back up from my "get-up-time" for the next day in 1.5 hr segments and add about 10-15 minutes to get to sleep and that tells me when I need to hit the sack.

It is just something to think about when making a blanket statement about a certain number of hours of sleep.  Might not work for you but it worked for us. (still does)

Steve

Huh... that is really interesting and makes a lot of sense.  I will try it out.  Thanks for the info.

BunnyB - 2008-05-08 8:30 AM Loved the pictures, ladies! Thanks for sharing them with us. I was so busy yesterday that I can't even remember if I made it by here. That's just sad! Thankfully, since I work a 9/80 work schedule, today is my Friday since tomorrow will be my day off. I sooooo need it, too! I did venture out to REI yesterday though. I picked up one of the Garmin Forerunner 305's since they have them on such a good sale ($165). Even though yesterday was supposed to be a rest day, I went out for a half hour walk just to test it and play around with it. Everything worked great except I couldn't get it to pick up my HR. I did a little research online last night and found a few ideas on the MotionBased forums. I'll give those a try the next time I wear it and see if I can get it working. If I can, it's going to be so nice to only have to wear one watch now when I go wogging. Currently I wear Nike running watch on one arm and my Polar HRM watch on the other. I wear both because my Polar HRM is one of the fitness models, so it doesn't have a lap function. Hope everyone has a GREAT day!

x2 I bought the Garmin 305 on Tuesday. I charged it up last night and plan on using tonight for my run. I'm excited!!!

Positive Thought of The Day: Even though I REALLY didn't want to give my presentation today, I did it. I would literally drop classes in college because they had oral presentations. That's how bad I was. I'm not good at it, but I got the job done. Good for me.

Happy Thursday/Training everyone.

BunnyB - 2008-05-08 11:42 AM Have fun with your new toy, Jeff! Being a total gadget geek, I'm in heaven right now.

I'm a numbers geek so I can't wait to get some data!!

I just saw this link in Freckle Face's blog and thought I'd put it in here since we are mentioned after all.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/health/nutrition/08BEST.html?ex=1210910400&en=0711453c76e3fd78&ei=5070&emc=eta1

Go Manatees!

elheffe99 - 2008-05-08 2:34 PM

BunnyB - 2008-05-08 11:42 AM Have fun with your new toy, Jeff! Being a total gadget geek, I'm in heaven right now.

I'm a numbers geek so I can't wait to get some data!!

I just saw this link in Freckle Face's blog and thought I'd put it in here since we are mentioned after all.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/health/nutrition/08BEST.html?ex=1210910400&en=0711453c76e3fd78&ei=5070&emc=eta1

Go Manatees!

Ah HEM--actually, it's a very interesting article, but the lady doesn't realize manatees ROUTINELY swim at 2-6 mph and can sprint to 15mph.

Go Manatees indeed!

Dude, if I could RUN 6 mph ...