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 2016-09-01 1:52 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion  15211   Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL |  Subject: RE: Election 2016Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by tuwood Some good articles talking substantively about the trip to Mexico yesterday: Donald Trump: International Man of Diplomacy — yes, really Trump immigration speech: A president was born on Wednesday
Or not. That's quite a spin piece there. lol So basically if I parse what that article is saying it's exactly what everyone else is saying. They agree that the US has the right to build a wall and it would be mutually beneficial and Mexico doesn't want to pay for it. /duh Says the man linking to Fox News. |
| 2016-09-01 1:58 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Master 2802  Minnetonka, Minnesota Bronze member | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by Rogillio A press conference in which he blatantly lied I might add... Unless the Pres of Mexico is a lair? I am sure they taped the convo...could get interesting. Why should Hillary hold a press conference as long as she is in the lead? You never know what her internal polls are showing too - maybe even better than the published polls? Why go in front of a (likely) hostile media who's real goal is to stir the pot and keep the horserace close to keep ratings high? As long as Trump is behind, especially in key battle-ground states, she will play it safe Id guess. She has a much bigger ad buy and a superior ground game in her back pocket too. Originally posted by ejshowers They are both opinion pieces from the right wing media, so what do you expect? I could post articles showing just how terrible a day Trump had yesterday too.
That's a good point. Guess we won't know until the next round of polls come out. I think the general rule of politics is being front page is generally good. People are talking about you and not your opponent. Trump held a press conference in Mexico for pete's sake!! And Clinton hasn't held a press conference in 269 days. Why is that? What are they afraid of? I heard this over and over yesterday.....even the most liberal commentators acknowledged that....and quickly tried to brush it off. Maybe they could put one of those little hidden ear plugs in her ear so someone off-stage can prompt on how to answer questions.
What was the blatant lie, I must have missed it? I fully support Clinton riding her lead. The Romney strategy has a proven track record. ;-) “Who pays for the wall? We didn’t discuss it,” Trump told reporters during a brief press availability with Peña Nieto after their roughly hour long sit-down at the presidential palace in Mexico City. “We did discuss the wall. We didn’t discuss payment for the wall. That will be for a later date.” But an hour after the meeting, Peña Nieto said in a message posted on Twitter that he did tell Trump that Mexico would not pay for the wall, contradicting the GOP nominee’s claim. It was unclear why the Mexican president did not correct Trump during the press conference, and the Trump campaign had no immediate response. “At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall,” Peña Nieto’s post read in Spanish. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-meets-mexican-president-side-000000... |
| 2016-09-01 2:40 PM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by tuwood “Who pays for the wall? We didn’t discuss it,” Trump told reporters during a brief press availability with Peña Nieto after their roughly hour long sit-down at the presidential palace in Mexico City. “We did discuss the wall. We didn’t discuss payment for the wall. That will be for a later date.” But an hour after the meeting, Peña Nieto said in a message posted on Twitter that he did tell Trump that Mexico would not pay for the wall, contradicting the GOP nominee’s claim. It was unclear why the Mexican president did not correct Trump during the press conference, and the Trump campaign had no immediate response. “At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall,” Peña Nieto’s post read in Spanish. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-meets-mexican-president-side-000000... Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by Rogillio A press conference in which he blatantly lied I might add... Unless the Pres of Mexico is a lair? I am sure they taped the convo...could get interesting. Why should Hillary hold a press conference as long as she is in the lead? You never know what her internal polls are showing too - maybe even better than the published polls? Why go in front of a (likely) hostile media who's real goal is to stir the pot and keep the horserace close to keep ratings high? As long as Trump is behind, especially in key battle-ground states, she will play it safe Id guess. She has a much bigger ad buy and a superior ground game in her back pocket too. Originally posted by ejshowers They are both opinion pieces from the right wing media, so what do you expect? I could post articles showing just how terrible a day Trump had yesterday too.
That's a good point. Guess we won't know until the next round of polls come out. I think the general rule of politics is being front page is generally good. People are talking about you and not your opponent. Trump held a press conference in Mexico for pete's sake!! And Clinton hasn't held a press conference in 269 days. Why is that? What are they afraid of? I heard this over and over yesterday.....even the most liberal commentators acknowledged that....and quickly tried to brush it off. Maybe they could put one of those little hidden ear plugs in her ear so someone off-stage can prompt on how to answer questions.
What was the blatant lie, I must have missed it? I fully support Clinton riding her lead. The Romney strategy has a proven track record. ;-) That's the lie? haha wow Hillary can make a campaign ad out of that one for sure /rollseyes One party making a statement is a far cry from discussing something and Trump said in follow up interviews that he understandably doesn't want to pay for the wall, but he still is. I wish you were even half as interested in Hillary's actual lies. |
| 2016-09-01 2:47 PM in reply to: crowny2 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by tuwood Some good articles talking substantively about the trip to Mexico yesterday: Donald Trump: International Man of Diplomacy — yes, really Trump immigration speech: A president was born on Wednesday
Or not. That's quite a spin piece there. lol So basically if I parse what that article is saying it's exactly what everyone else is saying. They agree that the US has the right to build a wall and it would be mutually beneficial and Mexico doesn't want to pay for it. /duh Says the man linking to Fox News. That's like comparing Glenn Becks website to CNN. An OpEd on Fox supporting Trump is a little different than a blatant spin/hit piece from a left wing blogger. Yet again, Trump easily wins the day because nobody can challenge his arguments or his platform. The even funnier part for Hillary is that Trump is seeking to enforce the laws that her husband signed that she failed to uphold as SoS (and he's the racist hater). It's like calling a cop the bad guy for enforcing a law that's on the books. |
| 2016-09-01 3:02 PM in reply to: tuwood |
| Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by tuwood Some good articles talking substantively about the trip to Mexico yesterday: Donald Trump: International Man of Diplomacy — yes, really Trump immigration speech: A president was born on Wednesday
Or not. That's quite a spin piece there. lol So basically if I parse what that article is saying it's exactly what everyone else is saying. They agree that the US has the right to build a wall and it would be mutually beneficial and Mexico doesn't want to pay for it. /duh Says the man linking to Fox News. That's like comparing Glenn Becks website to CNN. An OpEd on Fox supporting Trump is a little different than a blatant spin/hit piece from a left wing blogger. Yet again, Trump easily wins the day because nobody can challenge his arguments or his platform. The even funnier part for Hillary is that Trump is seeking to enforce the laws that her husband signed that she failed to uphold as SoS (and he's the racist hater). It's like calling a cop the bad guy for enforcing a law that's on the books. He should've pointed out you quoting thegatewaypundit.com instead of Fox |
| 2016-09-01 3:08 PM in reply to: spudone |
| Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Yet again, Trump easily wins the day because nobody can challenge his arguments or his platform.* * Except democrats, immigrants, non-whites, establishment republicans, economists, Uncle Sam and babies. |
| 2016-09-01 3:12 PM in reply to: spudone |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone Yet again, Trump easily wins the day because nobody can challenge his arguments or his platform.* * Except democrats, immigrants, non-whites, establishment republicans, economists, Uncle Sam and babies. crickets chirping from Hillary which is the only one that matters. |
| 2016-09-01 3:17 PM in reply to: tuwood |
| Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by spudone Yet again, Trump easily wins the day because nobody can challenge his arguments or his platform.* * Except democrats, immigrants, non-whites, establishment republicans, economists, Uncle Sam and babies. crickets chirping from Hillary which is the only one that matters. You mean by sitting on Twitter 24/7? In an election with such low likability for both candidates, I'm reminded of the old saying "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt". If she wants to limit herself to weekly appearances and wait for Trump's next Gold Star extravaganza, that's probably not a bad plan. |
| 2016-09-01 3:20 PM in reply to: spudone |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by spudone Yet again, Trump easily wins the day because nobody can challenge his arguments or his platform.* * Except democrats, immigrants, non-whites, establishment republicans, economists, Uncle Sam and babies. crickets chirping from Hillary which is the only one that matters. You mean by sitting on Twitter 24/7? In an election with such low likability for both candidates, I'm reminded of the old saying "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt". If she wants to limit herself to weekly appearances and wait for Trump's next Gold Star extravaganza, that's probably not a bad plan. I approve of it. |
| 2016-09-01 9:29 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Replacement VP please report to Hillary's office immediately: “You want to know if we’ll disclose our finances, so you can understand how we’ve managed our own household or business and see if we owe anybody anything. We want to make sure that candidates aren’t involved in any foreign entanglements that could impact our national security, and we want to know that they’re in good-enough health to perform their duties,” Kaine added. “When candidates are on the up-and-up, they have no problem disclosing information on all these points. You have a right to know. You have a right to expect, and a candidate that’s on the up-and-up has no problem giving you the facts.” |
| 2016-09-02 2:57 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: Election 2016 The head of "Latinos for Trump" went on MSNBC and said if we don't elect Trump, there will be a taco truck on ever corner. That may be enough to get me to switch my vote from Johnson to Hillary. |
| 2016-09-02 2:59 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Bob Loblaw The head of "Latinos for Trump" went on MSNBC and said if we don't elect Trump, there will be a taco truck on ever corner. That may be enough to get me to switch my vote from Johnson to Hillary. I'm considering a switch as well now. haha |
| 2016-09-02 9:07 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 And people are worried about Trump having access to Americas secrets. Wow, this woman is an idiot. |
| 2016-09-03 9:35 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 NY Times turning on Hillary? I had a thought on all of this. I know conservatives are giving Hillary a hard time because she's not "campaigning" like Trump is. However, I wonder if her strategy is to make it through the debates and sit back and do it through advertising and commercials so she can sway opinion that way. Obviously that will need a lot of money if that's the case and she has been fundraising a lot. My personal thoughts are that advertising isn't as effective as it used to be because none of us watch TV anymore and darn sure don't watch commercials Who knows, but I thought it was an interesting thought. |
| 2016-09-06 11:27 AM in reply to: tuwood |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Election 2016 I think she's trying to limit public speaking because she sounds like she has TB. I haven't given it much thought, but I turned on POTUS this morning in the middle of her recent speech and she could barely get through the words. Allergies, I'm sure. The Democrats better hope she doesn't get into one of those coughing fits in the middle of one of the debates - she sounds like my 70 year old mother who has smoked for 57 years. |
| 2016-09-08 11:27 AM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 I was in NYC over the weekend. Being a tourist, I had to stop by Little Italy and have some lunch and cappuccino. Just to see if I could rile the locals, I wore a Trump tee-shirt all day Sunday. Only 2 people commented to me on the tee-shirt and both said they supported Trump and sure hope he wins. I was a little disappointed no Hillary fans confronted me.....I was itching for a fight! j/k |
| 2016-09-10 7:27 AM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Did Hillary just have her 47% moment? Yikes
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| 2016-09-10 9:37 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by tuwood Did Hillary just have her 47% moment? Yikes
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-basket-of-deplorables/index.html
Wow. She had a Trump-moment. LOL.
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| 2016-09-11 6:24 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 So Clinton has pneumonia and collapsed in NYC. I wish her a speedy recovery. i think her campaign would have been better served had they made this announcement when they found out On Friday and not wait till she has a 'incident' where she collapsed. At first they said she slipped but clearly she was unable to stand.
They em said she was dehydrated. I think I would assign a staffer just to keep me hydrated. |
| 2016-09-12 9:00 AM in reply to: Rogillio |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Agreed. They should have announced the pneumonia when it was diagnosed on Friday and limited her engagements over the weekend. She could have gone to the 911 memorial, but given the expectation that she'd only be there briefly. The optics would have been much better than her passing out and being rushed out of there with no explanation until later. Plays right into the narrative about her trustworthiness and transparency. Pneumonia is dangerous and people are hospitalized all of the time because of it. I hope she takes the time to heal or it will be nagging issue for months. |
| 2016-09-12 9:48 AM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Hook'em Agreed. They should have announced the pneumonia when it was diagnosed on Friday and limited her engagements over the weekend. She could have gone to the 911 memorial, but given the expectation that she'd only be there briefly. The optics would have been much better than her passing out and being rushed out of there with no explanation until later. Plays right into the narrative about her trustworthiness and transparency. Pneumonia is dangerous and people are hospitalized all of the time because of it. I hope she takes the time to heal or it will be nagging issue for months.
Still a lot of unknowns. Is it bacterial or a virus? How long has she had symptoms? What medication is she on? I'm not a doctor but would think her doctor would have told her "drink plenty of liquids" would they not? Dehydration sounds plausible....especially to us triathletes.....but given the pattern of secrecy I am skeptical. I've been dehydrated many, many times.....but never to the point of falling down. Then again, I am not 68 years old. |
| 2016-09-12 9:54 AM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Rogillio She's running into the pathological liars conundrum. Even if she's being 100% truthful, nobody believes her anyways. She did have a head trauma and she does have some other serious health issues that have been documented. I obviously don't know what is wrong with her that's causing the coughing and falling, but I have zero trust in anything her campaign tells me.Originally posted by Hook'em Agreed. They should have announced the pneumonia when it was diagnosed on Friday and limited her engagements over the weekend. She could have gone to the 911 memorial, but given the expectation that she'd only be there briefly. The optics would have been much better than her passing out and being rushed out of there with no explanation until later. Plays right into the narrative about her trustworthiness and transparency. Pneumonia is dangerous and people are hospitalized all of the time because of it. I hope she takes the time to heal or it will be nagging issue for months.
Still a lot of unknowns. Is it bacterial or a virus? How long has she had symptoms? What medication is she on? I'm not a doctor but would think her doctor would have told her "drink plenty of liquids" would they not? Dehydration sounds plausible....especially to us triathletes.....but given the pattern of secrecy I am skeptical. I've been dehydrated many, many times.....but never to the point of falling down. Then again, I am not 68 years old. |
| 2016-09-12 10:17 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: --- Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Rogillio She's running into the pathological liars conundrum. Even if she's being 100% truthful, nobody believes her anyways. She did have a head trauma and she does have some other serious health issues that have been documented. I obviously don't know what is wrong with her that's causing the coughing and falling, but I have zero trust in anything her campaign tells me. Originally posted by Hook'em Agreed. They should have announced the pneumonia when it was diagnosed on Friday and limited her engagements over the weekend. She could have gone to the 911 memorial, but given the expectation that she'd only be there briefly. The optics would have been much better than her passing out and being rushed out of there with no explanation until later. Plays right into the narrative about her trustworthiness and transparency. Pneumonia is dangerous and people are hospitalized all of the time because of it. I hope she takes the time to heal or it will be nagging issue for months.
Still a lot of unknowns. Is it bacterial or a virus? How long has she had symptoms? What medication is she on? I'm not a doctor but would think her doctor would have told her "drink plenty of liquids" would they not? Dehydration sounds plausible....especially to us triathletes.....but given the pattern of secrecy I am skeptical. I've been dehydrated many, many times.....but never to the point of falling down. Then again, I am not 68 years old.
So shortly after she fell out her 'personal physician' said she had become overheated and dehydrated but is fine now......not mention of pneumonia. The definition of a compulsive liar is when you lie even when the truth would serve you better! So their knee-jerk reaction as "overheated and dehydrated". I was in NYC till Tuesday and it was beautiful! Temps in the mid to low 80s not the high 90s. So after their initial story of overheated and dehydrated came out I'm sure people started thinking, "I didn't see anyone else falling out" over the heat? So then they have to modify the story......."And OBTW, on Friday she was diagnosed with pneumonia....didn't we tell you?" |
| 2016-09-12 10:27 AM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Election 2016 Originally posted by Hook'em I think she's trying to limit public speaking because she sounds like she has TB. I haven't given it much thought, but I turned on POTUS this morning in the middle of her recent speech and she could barely get through the words. Allergies, I'm sure. The Democrats better hope she doesn't get into one of those coughing fits in the middle of one of the debates - she sounds like my 70 year old mother who has smoked for 57 years.
So the more I read: "Doctors advise patients to take rest and consume plenty of fluids." The more I'm blaming her staff/handlers/personal doctor. They knew she was sick with pneumonia! They knew she needed to stay hydrated (or overhydrated)....yet they allowed her to go out and make an appearance and become dehydrated.
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| 2016-09-12 10:32 AM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Election 2016 I'm surprised she doesn't stumble more with those ankles. |
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