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kaburns1214 - 2012-11-17 7:37 PM

Bryancd just posted this on Face Book and I really liked it so I had to share:

"Kona slots aren't given...they are taken by those willing to rip them out of the hands of everyone else."

 

 

I like this.  Over 75 slots at IMMT, Kelly.  You going for it this year?



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Recovery ride + longish run this morning.  This combo seems to be working very well for me.  I am all stretched out and loose by the time I hit the roads.  My IT band isn't bothering me as much either.  I use foam roller right after run and feel pretty good right now.  Z1 pace is coming down.  

We unpacked the last dozen boxes from the move yesterday.  Feels good to be settled!

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Do people make time goals for their first IM?  Or is that just crazy talk?  Just curious.  

I have no clue how long IMMT will take me.  Not even a guess.   

2012-11-18 10:19 AM
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53 miles for the week.  Pretty sure this is the most miles I have put in, ever.  Kind of cool.

I'm on vacation for the week - very excited about that.  I need a break from the crap going on at work these days.

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jarvy01 - 2012-11-18 11:16 AM

Do people make time goals for their first IM?  Or is that just crazy talk?  Just curious.  

I have no clue how long IMMT will take me.  Not even a guess.   

I had a goal, but kept it secret.  I think most people (at least the ones I know) say they just want to finish, but I bet every one of them had a time in mind.  For me I just added up the mid to higher end scenario of the swim/bike/run, added 10 minutes for each transition, and came up with a total of 14 hours that I wanted to beat.  Which I did and was very happy about, but I didn't tell anyone before because I didn't want the added pressure.  That's just me though.

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karen26.2 - 2012-11-18 10:23 AM
jarvy01 - 2012-11-18 11:16 AM

Do people make time goals for their first IM?  Or is that just crazy talk?  Just curious.  

I have no clue how long IMMT will take me.  Not even a guess.   

I had a goal, but kept it secret.  I think most people (at least the ones I know) say they just want to finish, but I bet every one of them had a time in mind.  For me I just added up the mid to higher end scenario of the swim/bike/run, added 10 minutes for each transition, and came up with a total of 14 hours that I wanted to beat.  Which I did and was very happy about, but I didn't tell anyone before because I didn't want the added pressure.  That's just me though.

I'll have a goal.  I'm not talking about it.  Kinda feels like a Fight Club type of deal.  I know people that have said both going into an Ironman depending on who they're talking to.  LOL.



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Fight Club - love it!

2012-11-18 11:56 AM
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Just wondered if I was crazy for even thinking about time goals. I was in the 50th percentile for my AG at cedar point....a little better with females overall. Not so good. I wonder if I can expect to be just as craptastic at the full. Lol

Fight club seems about right.
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jarvy01 - 2012-11-18 11:12 AM
kaburns1214 - 2012-11-17 7:37 PM

Bryancd just posted this on Face Book and I really liked it so I had to share:

"Kona slots aren't given...they are taken by those willing to rip them out of the hands of everyone else."

 

 

I like this.  Over 75 slots at IMMT, Kelly.  You going for it this year?

Every time I race, the goal is to go as fast as I possibly can and to push myself as hard as I can especially over the last 10K of the run.  I can't control anything other than myself.   I aspire to be in a position that my best effort will result in a Kona slot (and the chances are better at IMMT because of the number of slots) but if I don't get one, I want to be able to know that I gave it everything I had. -- no matter what race 

 

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Good morning!  

Various TTs in the pool this morning.  I blew last month's times out of the water.  I don't think I'm improving so much as getting back into swimming shape after the 2 weeks off.  I admit that I loathe TTs.  Start dreading them the night before.  I definitely love the long workouts vs. the speed workouts or TTs.  Probably means I need to work on my speed

I have a physical today.  It will be interesting to get some cholesterol numbers back.  I'm also asking for a full blood panel to check my thyroid and hormones.  Things seem imbalanced, and I want to get to the bottom of it all. 



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Back at it. Feels good.

1500 in the pool, easy 20 min run, and some stretching.


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karen26.2 - 2012-11-18 11:19 AM

53 miles for the week.  Pretty sure this is the most miles I have put in, ever.  Kind of cool.

I'm on vacation for the week - very excited about that.  I need a break from the crap going on at work these days.

53 miles is huge, Karen.  Great job!!!!

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I did 1:35 on the trainer this morning which is the longest I've been on it since April, maybe May. Riding outside is just so much better........but not when the finishing temp is 36. What a difference a year makes though. I'm anywhere from 20-25 more average watts with 5-10 beats per minute lower at the same time as last year. Doesn't matter what type of workout.

Ran a 3.3 mile turkey trot with my 10 year old daughter on Saturday. About 250 of which half were under 18. Her category was 12 and under. All the kids crowded the front of the race and took off like rockets. I looked at the Garmin and was going 6:30 and not putting dent in the 50 yard lead they popped out to. Just before the one mile mark I settled in 30 yards behind her which is where I wanted to be. She did mile one in 6:52. We hit mile 2 in 7:11 and I was impressed she held 7 pace for this long about mile 2.25 I saw her start grabbing her side and I knew she was cramping. She pulled over and I ran up to her and she was almost in tears and begged for some water. I told her there's no water in a 5K you just need to suck it up and keep going.

So I ran next to her at this point and she picked it up to 7:30 and eventually down to 7:15 but stopped again at about mile 3.1 and I said you only have a quarter of a mile and you're still winning your age group for sure lets go. So she did and we brought it in at 7:32 average which with the two stops was still damn good.

She wanted to leave because she felt like she failed and ran a bad race. I said to the director who I know do you know who won the girls 12 and under. He asked the time keeper who said bib 101 which was Cayden's and she was happy but still disappointed with the stops.

They gave out 20 pound turkeys to the age group winners. When they announced her time there were a lot of ooh's and awe's and she blushed and smiled happily. After running and then cooling down holding a 20 pound frozen bird to your chest when you only weigh 65 pounds yourself makes your teeth chatter. I smiled already knowing the answer and asked do you want me to hold that for you? NO WAY! LOL better to be cold and let everybody know you won than to be warm.

I told her she learned a valuable life lesson. No matter how bad you think you're doing just keep going and you'll surprised where you'll end up. In a race or otherwise it's not always your day but by persevering it will make you better when it is your day.

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everlong - 2012-11-19 2:13 PM

I did 1:35 on the trainer this morning which is the longest I've been on it since April, maybe May. Riding outside is just so much better........but not when the finishing temp is 36. What a difference a year makes though. I'm anywhere from 20-25 more average watts with 5-10 beats per minute lower at the same time as last year. Doesn't matter what type of workout.

Ran a 3.3 mile turkey trot with my 10 year old daughter on Saturday. About 250 of which half were under 18. Her category was 12 and under. All the kids crowded the front of the race and took off like rockets. I looked at the Garmin and was going 6:30 and not putting dent in the 50 yard lead they popped out to. Just before the one mile mark I settled in 30 yards behind her which is where I wanted to be. She did mile one in 6:52. We hit mile 2 in 7:11 and I was impressed she held 7 pace for this long about mile 2.25 I saw her start grabbing her side and I knew she was cramping. She pulled over and I ran up to her and she was almost in tears and begged for some water. I told her there's no water in a 5K you just need to suck it up and keep going.

So I ran next to her at this point and she picked it up to 7:30 and eventually down to 7:15 but stopped again at about mile 3.1 and I said you only have a quarter of a mile and you're still winning your age group for sure lets go. So she did and we brought it in at 7:32 average which with the two stops was still damn good.

She wanted to leave because she felt like she failed and ran a bad race. I said to the director who I know do you know who won the girls 12 and under. He asked the time keeper who said bib 101 which was Cayden's and she was happy but still disappointed with the stops.

They gave out 20 pound turkeys to the age group winners. When they announced her time there were a lot of ooh's and awe's and she blushed and smiled happily. After running and then cooling down holding a 20 pound frozen bird to your chest when you only weigh 65 pounds yourself makes your teeth chatter. I smiled already knowing the answer and asked do you want me to hold that for you? NO WAY! LOL better to be cold and let everybody know you won than to be warm.

I told her she learned a valuable life lesson. No matter how bad you think you're doing just keep going and you'll surprised where you'll end up. In a race or otherwise it's not always your day but by persevering it will make you better when it is your day.

 

Very cool.

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everlong - 2012-11-19 3:13 PM

I did 1:35 on the trainer this morning which is the longest I've been on it since April, maybe May. Riding outside is just so much better........but not when the finishing temp is 36. What a difference a year makes though. I'm anywhere from 20-25 more average watts with 5-10 beats per minute lower at the same time as last year. Doesn't matter what type of workout.

Ran a 3.3 mile turkey trot with my 10 year old daughter on Saturday. About 250 of which half were under 18. Her category was 12 and under. All the kids crowded the front of the race and took off like rockets. I looked at the Garmin and was going 6:30 and not putting dent in the 50 yard lead they popped out to. Just before the one mile mark I settled in 30 yards behind her which is where I wanted to be. She did mile one in 6:52. We hit mile 2 in 7:11 and I was impressed she held 7 pace for this long about mile 2.25 I saw her start grabbing her side and I knew she was cramping. She pulled over and I ran up to her and she was almost in tears and begged for some water. I told her there's no water in a 5K you just need to suck it up and keep going.

So I ran next to her at this point and she picked it up to 7:30 and eventually down to 7:15 but stopped again at about mile 3.1 and I said you only have a quarter of a mile and you're still winning your age group for sure lets go. So she did and we brought it in at 7:32 average which with the two stops was still damn good.

She wanted to leave because she felt like she failed and ran a bad race. I said to the director who I know do you know who won the girls 12 and under. He asked the time keeper who said bib 101 which was Cayden's and she was happy but still disappointed with the stops.

They gave out 20 pound turkeys to the age group winners. When they announced her time there were a lot of ooh's and awe's and she blushed and smiled happily. After running and then cooling down holding a 20 pound frozen bird to your chest when you only weigh 65 pounds yourself makes your teeth chatter. I smiled already knowing the answer and asked do you want me to hold that for you? NO WAY! LOL better to be cold and let everybody know you won than to be warm.

I told her she learned a valuable life lesson. No matter how bad you think you're doing just keep going and you'll surprised where you'll end up. In a race or otherwise it's not always your day but by persevering it will make you better when it is your day.

We need a picture of Cayden with the turkey!

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Congrats to your daughter - that's awesome!"There's no water in a 5k", classic!


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everlong - 2012-11-19 3:13 PM

I did 1:35 on the trainer this morning which is the longest I've been on it since April, maybe May. Riding outside is just so much better........but not when the finishing temp is 36. What a difference a year makes though. I'm anywhere from 20-25 more average watts with 5-10 beats per minute lower at the same time as last year. Doesn't matter what type of workout.

Ran a 3.3 mile turkey trot with my 10 year old daughter on Saturday. About 250 of which half were under 18. Her category was 12 and under. All the kids crowded the front of the race and took off like rockets. I looked at the Garmin and was going 6:30 and not putting dent in the 50 yard lead they popped out to. Just before the one mile mark I settled in 30 yards behind her which is where I wanted to be. She did mile one in 6:52. We hit mile 2 in 7:11 and I was impressed she held 7 pace for this long about mile 2.25 I saw her start grabbing her side and I knew she was cramping. She pulled over and I ran up to her and she was almost in tears and begged for some water. I told her there's no water in a 5K you just need to suck it up and keep going.

So I ran next to her at this point and she picked it up to 7:30 and eventually down to 7:15 but stopped again at about mile 3.1 and I said you only have a quarter of a mile and you're still winning your age group for sure lets go. So she did and we brought it in at 7:32 average which with the two stops was still damn good.

She wanted to leave because she felt like she failed and ran a bad race. I said to the director who I know do you know who won the girls 12 and under. He asked the time keeper who said bib 101 which was Cayden's and she was happy but still disappointed with the stops.

They gave out 20 pound turkeys to the age group winners. When they announced her time there were a lot of ooh's and awe's and she blushed and smiled happily. After running and then cooling down holding a 20 pound frozen bird to your chest when you only weigh 65 pounds yourself makes your teeth chatter. I smiled already knowing the answer and asked do you want me to hold that for you? NO WAY! LOL better to be cold and let everybody know you won than to be warm.

I told her she learned a valuable life lesson. No matter how bad you think you're doing just keep going and you'll surprised where you'll end up. In a race or otherwise it's not always your day but by persevering it will make you better when it is your day.

Very cool story.  Congrats to your daughter

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So here is the last  of what has been a very long 14 months.  Scheduled Dec 10th for a Peroneal Nerve Decompression surgery at the left knee. As I mentioned last week, we always thought it was ITBS, but it never went away, and the EMG confirmed the nerve issue, all from trauma to the knee. So another 3 month lay up.  Very frustrating, but I guess good to finally resolve the last issue I should have. 

I forgot to ask the Ortho today, if I could swim after the first few weeks.  I wonder if I use a pull buoy, and don't kick my legs, I can start working on swim again, while I am off the legs.  Thoughts anyone, or anyone have any experience with this? Is that a dumb idea with the pull buoy.  Keep in mind, I have hardly swam at all this year, so I'm pretty much starting over.

Good news is, I should be able to walk on it the next day, so it's not an invasive surgery, but the nerve needs time to heal. Full recovery up to 18 months, but should be back to running and biking in 3 months.

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everlong - 2012-11-19 1:13 PM

 I smiled already knowing the answer and asked do you want me to hold that for you? NO WAY! LOL better to be cold and let everybody know you won than to be warm.

 

AWesome stuff!

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karen26.2 - 2012-11-19 4:40 PM Congrats to your daughter - that's awesome!"There's no water in a 5k", classic!

I hadn't thought of it in those terms but your comment reminds of there's no crying in baseball, LOL.

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kaburns1214 - 2012-11-19 4:11 PM We need a picture of Cayden with the turkey!

I will post one as soon as I have one. The pictures are going in the Duxbury Clipper and I hadn't brought a camera, dumb @ss, so I'm waiting for them to publish them.

Thanks everybody it was a lot of fun.



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rizer22 - 2012-11-19 5:00 PM

So here is the last  of what has been a very long 14 months.  Scheduled Dec 10th for a Peroneal Nerve Decompression surgery at the left knee. As I mentioned last week, we always thought it was ITBS, but it never went away, and the EMG confirmed the nerve issue, all from trauma to the knee. So another 3 month lay up.  Very frustrating, but I guess good to finally resolve the last issue I should have. 

I forgot to ask the Ortho today, if I could swim after the first few weeks.  I wonder if I use a pull buoy, and don't kick my legs, I can start working on swim again, while I am off the legs.  Thoughts anyone, or anyone have any experience with this? Is that a dumb idea with the pull buoy.  Keep in mind, I have hardly swam at all this year, so I'm pretty much starting over.

Good news is, I should be able to walk on it the next day, so it's not an invasive surgery, but the nerve needs time to heal. Full recovery up to 18 months, but should be back to running and biking in 3 months.

When I had a psoas issue I swam exclusively with a pull buoy -- not a stupid idea at all.

You can also look into swim cords.  You can do those with a bad knee and continue working on your swim on dry land. 

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rizer22 - 2012-11-19 4:00 PM

So here is the last  of what has been a very long 14 months.  Scheduled Dec 10th for a Peroneal Nerve Decompression surgery at the left knee. As I mentioned last week, we always thought it was ITBS, but it never went away, and the EMG confirmed the nerve issue, all from trauma to the knee. So another 3 month lay up.  Very frustrating, but I guess good to finally resolve the last issue I should have. 

I forgot to ask the Ortho today, if I could swim after the first few weeks.  I wonder if I use a pull buoy, and don't kick my legs, I can start working on swim again, while I am off the legs.  Thoughts anyone, or anyone have any experience with this? Is that a dumb idea with the pull buoy.  Keep in mind, I have hardly swam at all this year, so I'm pretty much starting over.

Good news is, I should be able to walk on it the next day, so it's not an invasive surgery, but the nerve needs time to heal. Full recovery up to 18 months, but should be back to running and biking in 3 months.

 

Ask the doc or a physical therapist? 

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That is a great race for her! Funny how competitive they are at such a young age. My nephew did the 10k last week in 52 minutes. I was doing the 10 mile and knew that he would have to sit around downtown Chicago for an hour waiting for me and I was not comfortable with that ... He is 11. So I had my friend Cathy (who did IMWI this year) run with him. He told me after he had to keep her behind him because she had just done and IM and he knew she could beat him .... He legitimately beat het by about 1 minutes, she couldn't hold his pace. So funny how worried he was about her beating him
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everlong - 2012-11-19 3:13 PM

I did 1:35 on the trainer this morning which is the longest I've been on it since April, maybe May. Riding outside is just so much better........but not when the finishing temp is 36. What a difference a year makes though. I'm anywhere from 20-25 more average watts with 5-10 beats per minute lower at the same time as last year. Doesn't matter what type of workout.

Ran a 3.3 mile turkey trot with my 10 year old daughter on Saturday. About 250 of which half were under 18. Her category was 12 and under. All the kids crowded the front of the race and took off like rockets. I looked at the Garmin and was going 6:30 and not putting dent in the 50 yard lead they popped out to. Just before the one mile mark I settled in 30 yards behind her which is where I wanted to be. She did mile one in 6:52. We hit mile 2 in 7:11 and I was impressed she held 7 pace for this long about mile 2.25 I saw her start grabbing her side and I knew she was cramping. She pulled over and I ran up to her and she was almost in tears and begged for some water. I told her there's no water in a 5K you just need to suck it up and keep going.

So I ran next to her at this point and she picked it up to 7:30 and eventually down to 7:15 but stopped again at about mile 3.1 and I said you only have a quarter of a mile and you're still winning your age group for sure lets go. So she did and we brought it in at 7:32 average which with the two stops was still damn good.

She wanted to leave because she felt like she failed and ran a bad race. I said to the director who I know do you know who won the girls 12 and under. He asked the time keeper who said bib 101 which was Cayden's and she was happy but still disappointed with the stops.

They gave out 20 pound turkeys to the age group winners. When they announced her time there were a lot of ooh's and awe's and she blushed and smiled happily. After running and then cooling down holding a 20 pound frozen bird to your chest when you only weigh 65 pounds yourself makes your teeth chatter. I smiled already knowing the answer and asked do you want me to hold that for you? NO WAY! LOL better to be cold and let everybody know you won than to be warm.

I told her she learned a valuable life lesson. No matter how bad you think you're doing just keep going and you'll surprised where you'll end up. In a race or otherwise it's not always your day but by persevering it will make you better when it is your day.

That is totally cool! No pun intended

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