TriAya (Yanti) and lmscozz (Lynn), Manatee Mentors--FULL! (Page 17)

Dineen -- If you can't find a meeting, then on-line would be an alternative for sure. Kind of surprised you can't find a meeting though. Seems like we have them almost any time of day. I think just writing down what you eat is a HUGE help and sometimes wake up call. Learning what to swap for higher fat/calorie foods and the real biggee,  why we overeat in the first place. WW does address all these. There's a WW app for mobile phones as well that might be helpful that's free and would connect to the online program if you decided to do that. 

TriAya - 2010-04-28 12:13 AM Weight. ARGH! Weight! Kerry is right--it's hard. I have lost 120 lbs NET from my heaviest, but my guess is that I've actually lost a total of 200 lbs or so, between gaining it back and such.

Different things have worked for me at different times. Here are my random thoughts.

I'm a WW fan, and I did it online, although I had a BFF/weight loss buddy who was doing it with me, so we'd discuss once a week or so and we often ate together.

Weight loss really is calories in/calories out. It's a LOT easier to cut calories (and eat delicious filling foods--I LOVE WW's zero-points soup!) than it is to burn them.

Also, doing weight training might do more for you than boot camp, if weight loss is your goal. Muscle burns a lot more calories at rest than fat, and it shapes you nicely .

Weight loss--and I really prefer to call it health-building--can be aggravatingly slow. However, I really agree with the whole pay-attention-to-FITNESS thing rather than focusing on numbers.

Is training better? Do you FEEL fitter? How's your resting heart rate? Clothes fit differently? Skin more aglow? Are you drinking LOTS of water, btw?

I have done MUCH better with implementing one small change at a time than say being strict about everything. For example, one week I switched to all lowfat dairy products, then later, all nonfat and no cheese. Maybe the next week, focus on eating a filling breakfast with quality protein and a little healthy fat to keep you satisfied. Plenty of fruit. (Or if that's a struggle, how about just making sure you DO eat breakfast every day, even if it's marginally healthy)?

X 2 -- what Yanti said.

Kick, kick, kick....feel that one Laura?

I'm not sure I'd let myself loose in a chocolate workshop! Congrats on your previous weight loss, btw. Enjoy your trip to Hershey....hmmmm am I seeing a brown-colored pattern here? Ha!

gadgetlaw - 2010-04-28 2:26 PM Oh, I almost forgot.  Have a great time at Hershey Laura.  My husband had a seminar in the area a couple of months ago and I tagged along.  The park was not open, but I did hit up Chocolate World.  Took the little ride, got my free chocolate  , and spent a fortune.  I had 2 huge bags of yummies to take home.  Now, I will say that it was not all for me, but I did get myself a few treats!!  Yes, my name is Karen and I am a chocoholic ...

*all together now*

"Hi Karen"

My name is Carla, and I too am a chocoholic.  I don't discriminate against other junk food though...I will eat it as well

I've been reading through the weightloss posts and have learned a ton.  I try to make a decision at each meal that will lower the calories I'm consuming.  Alot of times it is as simple as leaving off a condiment off of a sandwich, but I try to do something.

I really thought that this would be the year that I would lose more poundage.  Hasn't happened yet.  I was just sure that training for and running a marathon would have some effect on the scale...nope.  After that was said and done, it really drove home the fact that it all has to do with the calories I'm putting in.  I'm burning plenty, just gotta quit taking so many in!

I too like chocolate.  Yes, a guy can like/crave chocolate too ;-)
I have been trying to cut back and have been eating York peppermint patties and Skinny cows instead of "full-fat" candy bars or full-fat ice cream. 
I also started doing this which has helped my chocolate craving a lot and also cut back fat and calories.  I bought a bag of Ghiradelli chocolate chips.  I can eat a few of those and they cure my chocolate craving.  This has replaced eating an entire candy bar haha.  Just thought that I would pass this along!

My problem with the bag of chocolate chips is this...I would get a spoon full of peanut butter, then cover it with chocolate chips, then wash it down with a glass of milk.  I would probably repeat that a couple of times.  I can't buy them, or any other goodies for the house...I have no will power. 

Now I want chocolate.  I'm going for a bike ride...no food out on the trail to tempt me. 

CHOCOLATE !!! I may be a WW peep, but I love me some chocolate...usually I'm with Ryan -- a few semi-sweet choc chips  each savored one at a time and let them melt in the mouth. 11 chips, 1 point.

Doesn't this look yummy?

And, then this info about the link between chocolate and depression. Follow the link:

http://news.health.com/2010/04/26/chocolate-mood/?xid=hts100422&utm_source=health&utm_medium=email&utm_content=body-link-2&utm_campaign=hts100422-html&PromKey=XET

Good morning Manatees.

Hope the day treats you well.

I agree with the taking a day off of lifting. Ask yourself, what would one day of lifting with a sore shoulder accomplish? Is it going to move me toward my fitness and training goals or away from them? And, one or two days won't disrupt it. Are there other activities you can do or modify (safely) your routine. I've had a couple of tears in rotator cuff and have had inflammation on and off -- ice, ice, ice has worked for me. Hopefully, it's just a passing thing and nothing major. I would also try some gentle stretching as your discomfort allows, but be careful.

Yea, Dineen  you can use the recipe builder or just add the ham to the quiche listing online or in the books. Just so you know, the points values listed in the books and online for a specific dish like a quiche or lasagne, etc. is derived from taking three common recipes and averaging the points value.

The thing I'd most be impressed with is that you are actually paying attention and counting any points, vs. just blowing it all off! As you start to pay attention to things like points or calories in quiche and whether it had ham or not, you'll start to see those small changes. It really is about all the small changes adding up...and making it a lifestyle so if you have an "oh-no" moment it's not a big deal, because this is for a lifetime and in the grand scheme one mishap or splurge every so often isn't a deal breaker. Sorry, got on my WW roll. Ooops..I'll shut up.