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BamaDC - 2011-01-31 3:12 PM How was everyone's week?  Like I posted before a sinus infection will wreck your numbers.  The only positive moment was yesterday's run.  10.17 miles in 80 minutes.  HR was still 5-10 beats high for the paces.

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S:  
6400.00 Yd
1h 49m 35s
R:  
22.67 Mi
2h 55m 51s

Lazy week, although I did finally get on my bike yesterday for the first time in forever!

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2011-01-31 8:41 PM
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BamaDC - 2011-01-31 3:12 PM How was everyone's week?  Like I posted before a sinus infection will wreck your numbers.  The only positive moment was yesterday's run.  10.17 miles in 80 minutes.  HR was still 5-10 beats high for the paces.

Week Totals

S:  
6400.00 Yd
1h 49m 35s
R:  
22.67 Mi
2h 55m 51s

Lazy week, although I did finally get on my bike yesterday for the first time in forever!

B: 
16.90 Mi   1h 03m 36s
R:  
20.15 Mi  3h 35m 34s


I did NOT get on my bike for the first time in forever. ;-)

R:  40.05 Mi  5h 32m

Biggest run volume ever for a week.   Not missing the bike/swim at all right now.  Swum tonight, in fact, and am still holding in there fine (running rest day).  Turned out a 7:00 500 yard effort in the drag suit.  That ain't bad for how much I've been ignoring it.

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Last week was awful. Started feeling run down come Wed, then got hit with the flu over the weekend. My numbers were DISMAL at best. 
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I'm into week 6 of the cycling program. Yesterday was the 1st round of 6x4 min at 20 min test avg power. Pretty brutal.



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22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
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Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


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36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
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22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
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50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 
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1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
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22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris
2011-02-02 10:09 AM
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croyston - 2011-02-02 9:50 AM
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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris


I know how you feel.  My biggest struggle is just getting in the water. 

It's weird, back when I was racing long course I really like swimming.  I guess that was because my legs were always sore.
2011-02-02 10:12 AM
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titeloops - 2011-02-01 9:23 AM I'm into week 6 of the cycling program. Yesterday was the 1st round of 6x4 min at 20 min test avg power. Pretty brutal.



That workout is a beast.  It's a great workout when your in the final stages of a build.

On a side note my biking legs have offically left the building. 

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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris



Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris

And you did 1700 yds more than me!  I am not a fan of swimming, and almost scared myself out of a half ironman race a couple of years ago.  If you have any motivators to get me swimming, let me know!



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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris



Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris

And you did 1700 yds more than me!  I am not a fan of swimming, and almost scared myself out of a half ironman race a couple of years ago.  If you have any motivators to get me swimming, let me know!



Motivation?  Easy - sign up for this and come swim it with LostSheep and I. 

The fear of drowning halfway in is certainly motivation!
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croyston - 2011-02-01 5:57 PM
S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 


For a new swimmer (like me) how much should I be swimming?
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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris


And yet your race times are pretty good for how little you are swimming.  You could improve a *lot* with a 200k swimming year.  You're off to a pretty decent start this year, too.
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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 


For a new swimmer (like me) how much should I be swimming?


You'll get a lot of answers to that question.  I'd like to say that I'd prefer to see people increase the frequency of swims, even if the total yardage isn't huge.  If you could go 3-4x a week and get 1,000-1,500 yds done each time that repetition week to week would help a lot.  Just like running, it is the cumulative effect of going week in week out that really pays off.  That and getting your technique working right.
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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 


For a new swimmer (like me) how much should I be swimming?


You'll get a lot of answers to that question.  I'd like to say that I'd prefer to see people increase the frequency of swims, even if the total yardage isn't huge.  If you could go 3-4x a week and get 1,000-1,500 yds done each time that repetition week to week would help a lot.  Just like running, it is the cumulative effect of going week in week out that really pays off.  That and getting your technique working right.


3-4 days a week swimming... 3-4 days a week running... 3-4 days a week biking...

Sitting on the couch was a whole lot easier!!


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titeloops - 2011-02-01 9:23 AM I'm into week 6 of the cycling program. Yesterday was the 1st round of 6x4 min at 20 min test avg power. Pretty brutal.



That workout is a beast.  It's a great workout when your in the final stages of a build.

On a side note my biking legs have offically left the building. 


I'm sure I've lost mine too.  Maybe I should get a new bike to get me motivated...

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=53266&scid=1001&scname=Road
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S:  
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B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris


I know how you feel.  My biggest struggle is just getting in the water. 

It's weird, back when I was racing long course I really like swimming.  I guess that was because my legs were always sore.
X2. Swimming seems like great recovery when your legs are wiped out. I'm trying to get to the pool at least 3 times this week. Only 1500 to 2000 per workout, but as sands says below, it's the cumulative effect. Plus, I always feel ripped after a swim! I just hurt after run.
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S:  
1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris



Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris

And you did 1700 yds more than me!  I am not a fan of swimming, and almost scared myself out of a half ironman race a couple of years ago.  If you have any motivators to get me swimming, let me know!



Motivation?  Easy - sign up for this and come swim it with LostSheep and I. 

The fear of drowning halfway in is certainly motivation!

Yes, I should do it.  It's just right down the road.  Surely I can come up with a good excuse not to do it...

Actually, the bay is usually better than the gulf.  And the gulf has many, many days where it isn't rough at all.  Unfortunately the day of my HIM, I couldn't even see the buoys because of the rollers.  Less than 5 minutes into the race, a woman swimming beside me raised her arm to get plucked out of the water.  That made me think, but I couldn't give up those months and months of training in just 5 minutes!   So I did it, but decided that gulf swimming for that distance just wasn't for me.

Just call me a wimp!

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1700.00 Yd
B: 
36.27 Mi         - 2h 08m 13s
R:  
22.63 Mi        - 3h 50m 19s
Str:  
50m


Last week was a pretty good week for me.  Had my longest run (9.4 miles) since my HM last March.  Still lots of work required in the pool.

  Chris


Not to poke too much, but 1700yds/week isn't enough to see gains in swimming. 



That's why I said "Still lots of work required in the pool"

Swimming is by far my weakest discipline, and one that I have a hard time with motivating myself.  As I posted on my training log goals, my swimming goal is "swim period", so even a single trip to the pool is a win to me.

  Chris


I know how you feel.  My biggest struggle is just getting in the water. 

It's weird, back when I was racing long course I really like swimming.  I guess that was because my legs were always sore.
X2. Swimming seems like great recovery when your legs are wiped out. I'm trying to get to the pool at least 3 times this week. Only 1500 to 2000 per workout, but as sands says below, it's the cumulative effect. Plus, I always feel ripped after a swim! I just hurt after run.


What do you guys do for workouts?  Do you use the ones posted here or something different?
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titeloops - 2011-02-01 9:23 AM I'm into week 6 of the cycling program. Yesterday was the 1st round of 6x4 min at 20 min test avg power. Pretty brutal.



That workout is a beast.  It's a great workout when your in the final stages of a build.

On a side note my biking legs have offically left the building. 


I'm sure I've lost mine too.  Maybe I should get a new bike to get me motivated...

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCProduct.jsp?spid=53266&scid=1001&scname=Road

I just bought the 2011 Comp in November. 


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There are a ton of workouts on the web. Lots of books as well. I try and do an endurance day, a form day, and a speed day each week. But always do my workouts on interval. IMO, interval work is the key to becoming a better swimmer. Take that with a grain of salt, as I swim like a sea turtle.
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titeloops - 2011-02-02 12:22 PMThere are a ton of workouts on the web. Lots of books as well. I try and do an endurance day, a form day, and a speed day each week. But always do my workouts on interval. IMO, interval work is the key to becoming a better swimmer. Take that with a grain of salt, as I swim like a sea turtle.
I call the guy I swim with "Aquaman" and myself "Jellyfishman"And I'm not even sure if I could outswim a jellyfish
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What do you guys do for workouts?  Do you use the ones posted here or something different?


Basically anything that sounds good that day to keep me interested.  Sprint sets, ladders, endurance sets (nothing longer than 500yd intervals), etc.

swimplan.com has some good workouts, as does http://ntcmastersswim.blogspot.com//>
As far as I am concerned the best way to get in the pool is to figure a workout out that you think will be fun.  The hardest part of that workout is just making yourself jump in the pool to begin with.  Some days 20x100 sounds good.  Some days some 500s sound good.  Or ladders.  Or paddle work.  Or even kickboard work (gah those hurt).  Lots of times I'll make it up on the drive there.  I always do a 500WU and 500yds worth of drills every workout.  After that - whatever works.

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titeloops - 2011-02-02 12:22 PMThere are a ton of workouts on the web. Lots of books as well. I try and do an endurance day, a form day, and a speed day each week. But always do my workouts on interval. IMO, interval work is the key to becoming a better swimmer. Take that with a grain of salt, as I swim like a sea turtle.
I call the guy I swim with "Aquaman" and myself "Jellyfishman"And I'm not even sure if I could outswim a jellyfish


Your race times are significantly better than a jellyfish.  Besides, there are no tides to move you along in the pool...
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