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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 9:41 AM

Jen - I don't get the circle swim when there's only 2 people either.  I've never had a head on collision and usually communicate ahead of time so it's a non-issue.  But there was this one woman who would always ask me if I wanted to circle swim of just split the lane when I used to do Masters.  I always responded split the lane with a perplexed look on my face???

You ALWAYS circle swim when there are two people.  Two reasons -- flip turn are tough with a split lane and more importantly, sa third, or fourth or fifith person can easily jump into the lane if you're circle swimming.  If your splitting a lane, its difficult for additional people to join.



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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 9:41 AM

Jen - I don't get the circle swim when there's only 2 people either.  I've never had a head on collision and usually communicate ahead of time so it's a non-issue.  But there was this one woman who would always ask me if I wanted to circle swim of just split the lane when I used to do Masters.  I always responded split the lane with a perplexed look on my face???

You ALWAYS circle swim when there are two people.  Two reasons -- flip turn are tough with a split lane and more importantly, sa third, or fourth or fifith person can easily jump into the lane if you're circle swimming.  If your splitting a lane, its difficult for additional people to join.

Well there ya go.  Learn something new every day.

2012-04-12 9:50 AM
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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 9:41 AM

Jen - I don't get the circle swim when there's only 2 people either.  I've never had a head on collision and usually communicate ahead of time so it's a non-issue.  But there was this one woman who would always ask me if I wanted to circle swim of just split the lane when I used to do Masters.  I always responded split the lane with a perplexed look on my face???

You ALWAYS circle swim when there are two people.  Two reasons -- flip turn are tough with a split lane and more importantly, sa third, or fourth or fifith person can easily jump into the lane if you're circle swimming.  If your splitting a lane, its difficult for additional people to join.

Well there ya go.  Learn something new every day.

Yep, I didn't know that either.  But, I'm still going to "request" to split the lane because I do not do flip turns, and anyone I swim with will be either too fast or too slow to circle swim with.  Luckily @ 5am there are not many people swimming.



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It's rare at my gym that someone is actually swimming in the lanes when I need to share a lane. Maybe 1 time out of 5-6 I'll see another actual swimmer there. Usually it's just older people walking/floating/dog paddling. Which is fine. Luckily, Tuesday was the first time in MONTHS I've had to share a lane (hoping it was a fluke, the guy was a tool). 

2012-04-12 10:12 AM
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I have always split the lane at my Master's class. Luckily we have never had too many that we can't. Only a few of us actually do flip turns so it works out 99% of the time. However, with the new knowledge I learned today I will take that into account next time I share and make sure I ask.

Did 1150 yds this morning and did my first non-pull/kick 100s. Kicked my butt but felt good and did a 1:55 on the first and then faded to 2:00 on the last one.

I did some "band" work as well during my pulls instead of using a bouy. I felt like my abs got more involved in trying to keep my hips up. Is that how it should feel?

Also got in 30min Z1 run afterwords that was OMG slow! Patience is key though I know when starting the HR training! Hope everyone has a nice day!



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kidtri33 - 2012-04-12 10:12 AM

I have always split the lane at my Master's class. Luckily we have never had too many that we can't. Only a few of us actually do flip turns so it works out 99% of the time. However, with the new knowledge I learned today I will take that into account next time I share and make sure I ask.

Did 1150 yds this morning and did my first non-pull/kick 100s. Kicked my butt but felt good and did a 1:55 on the first and then faded to 2:00 on the last one.

I did some "band" work as well during my pulls instead of using a bouy. I felt like my abs got more involved in trying to keep my hips up. Is that how it should feel?

Also got in 30min Z1 run afterwords that was OMG slow! Patience is key though I know when starting the HR training! Hope everyone has a nice day!

 

I hope so because my core is as sore today as it's been in a long, long time.



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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 10:50 AM
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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 9:41 AM

Jen - I don't get the circle swim when there's only 2 people either.  I've never had a head on collision and usually communicate ahead of time so it's a non-issue.  But there was this one woman who would always ask me if I wanted to circle swim of just split the lane when I used to do Masters.  I always responded split the lane with a perplexed look on my face???

You ALWAYS circle swim when there are two people.  Two reasons -- flip turn are tough with a split lane and more importantly, sa third, or fourth or fifith person can easily jump into the lane if you're circle swimming.  If your splitting a lane, its difficult for additional people to join.

Well there ya go.  Learn something new every day.

Yep, I didn't know that either.  But, I'm still going to "request" to split the lane because I do not do flip turns, and anyone I swim with will be either too fast or too slow to circle swim with.  Luckily @ 5am there are not many people swimming.

I didn't know that either.  I think most people at my gym would be horrified to know this, too.  LOL  I do flip, but I still prefer to split if there are only 2 of us.  If there are 3, then I will absolutely circle swim.  It's annoying to have to touch someone's toes all the time or have your own toes grabbed all the time due to different speeds, but it's the nature of public pools.  

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PLanned run done. Got a swim scheduled today too. 

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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 9:41 AM

Jen - I don't get the circle swim when there's only 2 people either.  I've never had a head on collision and usually communicate ahead of time so it's a non-issue.  But there was this one woman who would always ask me if I wanted to circle swim of just split the lane when I used to do Masters.  I always responded split the lane with a perplexed look on my face???

You ALWAYS circle swim when there are two people.  Two reasons -- flip turn are tough with a split lane and more importantly, sa third, or fourth or fifith person can easily jump into the lane if you're circle swimming.  If your splitting a lane, its difficult for additional people to join.

Well there ya go.  Learn something new every day.

Yep, I didn't know that either.  But, I'm still going to "request" to split the lane because I do not do flip turns, and anyone I swim with will be either too fast or too slow to circle swim with.  Luckily @ 5am there are not many people swimming.

I didn't know that either.  I think most people at my gym would be horrified to know this, too.  LOL  I do flip, but I still prefer to split if there are only 2 of us.  If there are 3, then I will absolutely circle swim.  It's annoying to have to touch someone's toes all the time or have your own toes grabbed all the time due to different speeds, but it's the nature of public pools.  

Growing up as a swimmer we'd have 10-15 people in a lane.

The problem with splitting for 2 and circling for 3 is that as the 3rd person entering the lane, you have to stop both people and make them wait (you can't have two of you start circling while the third person has no idea what's going on).  Also if the default is circle you can slip into any lane without interupting the other person.

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Ugh I wish the HOA of the neighborhood across the street witht he huge swimmable lake didn't start cracking down on non residents.  All this circle swimming stuff would be moot.
2012-04-12 2:56 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2012-04-12 2:34 PM
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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 10:50 AM
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karen26.2 - 2012-04-12 9:41 AM

Jen - I don't get the circle swim when there's only 2 people either.  I've never had a head on collision and usually communicate ahead of time so it's a non-issue.  But there was this one woman who would always ask me if I wanted to circle swim of just split the lane when I used to do Masters.  I always responded split the lane with a perplexed look on my face???

You ALWAYS circle swim when there are two people.  Two reasons -- flip turn are tough with a split lane and more importantly, sa third, or fourth or fifith person can easily jump into the lane if you're circle swimming.  If your splitting a lane, its difficult for additional people to join.

Well there ya go.  Learn something new every day.

Yep, I didn't know that either.  But, I'm still going to "request" to split the lane because I do not do flip turns, and anyone I swim with will be either too fast or too slow to circle swim with.  Luckily @ 5am there are not many people swimming.

I didn't know that either.  I think most people at my gym would be horrified to know this, too.  LOL  I do flip, but I still prefer to split if there are only 2 of us.  If there are 3, then I will absolutely circle swim.  It's annoying to have to touch someone's toes all the time or have your own toes grabbed all the time due to different speeds, but it's the nature of public pools.  

Growing up as a swimmer we'd have 10-15 people in a lane.

The problem with splitting for 2 and circling for 3 is that as the 3rd person entering the lane, you have to stop both people and make them wait (you can't have two of you start circling while the third person has no idea what's going on).  Also if the default is circle you can slip into any lane without interupting the other person.

We did the same when I was on swim team.  It was crowded as heck!  They put us in lanes according to speed though, so it wasn't as insane as it would be at my pool if we were required to circle swim.  There are people who do something that looks like breaststroke but on their backs (can you even visualize this?  LOL).  

Honestly, it makes sense to set circle swim as a rule, but they'd never enforce it.  The lifeguards don't care.  

Btw, it seems that when I swim in the evenings, I always get stuck in the lane by the wall with the stairs.  Every time I swim in that spot, at that time, this little old guy hops into my lane with these water weights and pumps his arms up and down with the weights while walking down half the lane.  He is hilarious.  At first I was annoyed.  I mean, there is a recreational pool with 12 lanes right next to the metered pool.  I don't mind so much anymore.  It makes me smile.    



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Just so you guys know, Jeff Sklarz and I are going to do the Target Training ride hosted by Rev3 on May 20th, i started a couple threads in the CT and NY forums trying to start a ride before i got the link to Target/Rev 3's, seems they will have a few different paces going out and is fully supported, from what i heard the slow pace group was out there close to 5 hours last year, so plan accordingly.  From what i understand it is a free ride, everyone is welcome, and i am betting it will be a pretty large group, a TT buddy i saw last night said it was close to 100 people last year, if her remembered correctly.

Figured i would post that here since i am pretty sure half this mentor group is doing Rev3 Quassy or live in CT.

Jen, you should come out for the weekend and ride with us  ;o)

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Rudedog55 - 2012-04-12 4:37 PM

Just so you guys know, Jeff Sklarz and I are going to do the Target Training ride hosted by Rev3 on May 20th, i started a couple threads in the CT and NY forums trying to start a ride before i got the link to Target/Rev 3's, seems they will have a few different paces going out and is fully supported, from what i heard the slow pace group was out there close to 5 hours last year, so plan accordingly.  From what i understand it is a free ride, everyone is welcome, and i am betting it will be a pretty large group, a TT buddy i saw last night said it was close to 100 people last year, if her remembered correctly.

Figured i would post that here since i am pretty sure half this mentor group is doing Rev3 Quassy or live in CT.

Jen, you should come out for the weekend and ride with us  ;o)

If I could, then I'd sit by the beer cooler and cheer you all on.  I'll be running a half marathon that morning here in Cleveland (at least I hope I am!)

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I see how it is dude.  Invite the cute female by name.  That's fine.  I'll be hanging out at IMTX that weekend.  Speaking of which bib #'s just went up.  I need to start on a spreadsheet.

 

Maps just went up for my Oly the end of the month too.  Course sets up really well for me.  1500m straight in off the boat.  Headwind to start and then the same wind at our backs coming back in on the bike.  Should give me some time to make sure my HR is in check before the 10k. 

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uhcoog - 2012-04-12 1:24 PM Ugh I wish the HOA of the neighborhood across the street witht he huge swimmable lake didn't start cracking down on non residents.  All this circle swimming stuff would be moot.

 

Is it a private lake of some kind? Weird.

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Morning, all.  Z1 ride on the trainer this morning, and then a short run later today.  We have showings tomorrow and a public open house on Sunday, so the rest of my day will be spent getting the house ready for those.  This house selling business would be much easier if my kids were in school!

Have a great day.  



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As usual my house survived the entire winter without getting sick to get the early spring flu. It's like clockwork. I'm not complaining I have friends who's households are sick all winter. Still though no fun when the entire house is tethered to the bathroom for multiple reasons. I had to skip yesterday with everybody being sick and then last night I finally got sick although not nearly as bad as everybody else. I had the chills and body aches for roughly 12 hours which isn't that bad. I did go to bed with socks, sweat pants, a very warm UA hoodie and my fleece running cap on all under a heavy comforter and was still cold. Got in bed at 9 and didn't get up until 6. At 6 I felt toasty and knew I was better. Went to the gym and ran two miles and swam a thousand yards to further work it out of my system but not over do it. Pace was easy and it worked out any lingering body aches I had. I do feel drained but should be good by tomorrow.
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Rudedog55 - 2012-04-12 4:37 PM

Just so you guys know, Jeff Sklarz and I are going to do the Target Training ride hosted by Rev3 on May 20th, i started a couple threads in the CT and NY forums trying to start a ride before i got the link to Target/Rev 3's, seems they will have a few different paces going out and is fully supported, from what i heard the slow pace group was out there close to 5 hours last year, so plan accordingly.  From what i understand it is a free ride, everyone is welcome, and i am betting it will be a pretty large group, a TT buddy i saw last night said it was close to 100 people last year, if her remembered correctly.

Figured i would post that here since i am pretty sure half this mentor group is doing Rev3 Quassy or live in CT.

Jen, you should come out for the weekend and ride with us  ;o)

Why is it everytime there is an event with this group from CT, I can't make it.  That's the same day as the Glastonbury Ten penny Ale Du. Since I won't be ready for any Rev 3 event, I would have enjoyed doing this loop. Rudy, maybe you can just hook up a wagon to your bike and give me some beer, I'll hang on for the ride

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Swimming, you all keep talking about swimming.  I better be in a pool by the end of this month.

6 Mile run done this morning.  I agree, the low HR runs are mentally painful, but sticking with it for now!! I am certainly finding that I am not as fatigued and can run a lot further if needed.

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Gah!!!  800 w/u, 800TT, 400 c/d in the pool today.  Felt good the w/u and then couldn't settle into a rhythm when I pushed the pace for the TT until like halfway in.  SOB!!!  Still a marked improvement from where I was this time last year I guess.  ZR hour spin afterwards.
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Easy workout done, 10K tomorrow.  Kelly has me running a pace I have never run before, but what the hell, I am willing to try ... wish me luck and lots of oxygen pumping through very quickly!!!!!


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carrie639 - 2012-04-13 9:08 AM Easy workout done, 10K tomorrow.  Kelly has me running a pace I have never run before, but what the hell, I am willing to try ... wish me luck and lots of oxygen pumping through very quickly!!!!!

Kill it, and remember..... it's only 6 miles, it's not like you'll die.

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Curios, what goggles does everyone here like? 

Lost mine on Tuesday somehow. Managed to lose them between the pool and my locker...amazing. Bought another pair, but I'm not crazy about them after one swim. 

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I use the Speedo Vanquisher 2.0. It was recommended by a swim team member at my local tri store. I like it so far. I have had a couple of issues if I don't have them on just right my right goggle will leak just a bit but that happens just every once in a while.
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i use an older version of these, and really liked them

 

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