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2013-03-23 7:27 PM
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elliot85 - 2013-03-22 8:58 AM

I ran the Leadman run course Wednesday night. Some observations in case anyone is interested... 

- 80% is on trails.

- Small undulating rollers throughout, nothing steep.  My Garmin read 466 feet climbing.  It's definitely tougher than the typical Tempe triathlon runs (around the lake). Nothing technical.

- Surface was pretty firm (good for running) with only a few rocky sections.  Should be pretty fast.

- Distance was a little over 8 miles.

Hope this helps!




Thank you for this info. I was looking at the map and the trail doesn't look hilly at all. I have been training on the Estrella trails doing 7 miles on some tough rolling climbs. Feel much better about the Tempe trail run. I thought the run course was 6.99 miles? Better do 8 tomorrow. My swim is so slow. Did a 2500 yard pool swim in 1:05. Yikes. Bike not to bad. 80 miles at 16.2 mph. Tempe Trail should take me and hour. So, I am looking at 7 hours total.


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I'm curious as to where the course is listed?  I've been to their website and found nothing and it seems rather barren and not up to date at all.
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PHXATC - 2013-03-25 11:05 AM I'm curious as to where the course is listed?  I've been to their website and found nothing and it seems rather barren and not up to date at all.

 

You're probably going to the Leadman site like I was and not the Red Rock Co. website.  http://www.redrockco.com/events/event-details.cfm?id=FF5C15EF-2219-59CD-DD1AF0A580E33E28

Rumor has it they are still working on permitting from the Indian tribe for the bike.  Hope it doesn't end up being the Soma course for all you people racing.  

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PHXATC - 2013-03-25 11:05 AM I'm curious as to where the course is listed?  I've been to their website and found nothing and it seems rather barren and not up to date at all.

 

You're probably going to the Leadman site like I was and not the Red Rock Co. website.  http://www.redrockco.com/events/event-details.cfm?id=FF5C15EF-2219-59CD-DD1AF0A580E33E28

Rumor has it they are still working on permitting from the Indian tribe for the bike.  Hope it doesn't end up being the Soma course for all you people racing.  

 

I'll talk to the race director and try to find out the bike course status.  I'd count on it being on the Beeline though (same as the past two years). 

PHXATC- Go to the Red Rock site for the most up-to-date information.

Here is a map of the run.

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Thanks, everyone.  Yes, I am not so smart.  Found the RR site and looked at the run.  And the empty page for the bike.

I agree, I do NOT hope it turns into the U-turn fesitval of SOMA.  Ah...it'll be fun anyways!

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PHXATC - 2013-03-25 2:06 PM

Thanks, everyone.  Yes, I am not so smart.  Found the RR site and looked at the run.  And the empty page for the bike.

I agree, I do NOT hope it turns into the U-turn fesitval of SOMA.  Ah...it'll be fun anyways!

 

God, I hope not either!



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2013-03-29 4:33 PM
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Not sure if this is old news, but the bike course is posted... 4 LOOPS!? I might be switching to the Olympic. 
2013-03-29 5:00 PM
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It just got posted b/c I checked this morning and there was nothing.  This is disappointing to say the least, but I'm still in on the 125.  The reservation must have either not wanted us or asked too much.  It's pretty crazy, 4 loops.  Further, there's a detour up the hill that will probably confuse people.  I suspect that this route will not make any friends and might doom the leadman experience, IHO.
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tomspharmacy - 2013-03-29 3:00 PM It just got posted b/c I checked this morning and there was nothing.  This is disappointing to say the least, but I'm still in on the 125.  The reservation must have either not wanted us or asked too much.  It's pretty crazy, 4 loops.  Further, there's a detour up the hill that will probably confuse people.  I suspect that this route will not make any friends and might doom the leadman experience, IHO.

I agree.  People are going to be upset, especially posting the course just two weeks before the race. Red Rock is a great race organizer though, and they will do their best to make it a pleasant race experience. The run course looks fun! 

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sooooo not happy about the 4 loop course...ugh!
trail course looks fun, although I haven't done any trail running in preparation...should be interesting!


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 I wish they just left the race in the Vegas area.... glad I saved my $.  
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eehh, I've done the 6 loop oly with TriFamily a few times. 4 loops, 8 loops, either way.....Make the best of it! I'm sure the trail run will more than make up for it! It's traditionally been breezy/windy for this race. Rather stay in town, if that's the case, again....Never gonna be able to please everyone. Always here complaints about the Soma course, yet turnout every year is great.
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4 loops. I sure hope I don't do 5 loops. Doesn't bother me anyway. Just hope I don't do more than 4 loops. I did that mistake before...lol...
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What a sad piece of news to hear they could not reach agreement with the reservation to get access to Beeline.  4 loops of SOMA will be a bummer, but hey, everyone doing the 125 has to do the same course, so we will all suffer through the turn, hammer, turn, hammer, turn, hammer........ together!  

Just remember - every race you can get out and participate in is one more step to a life of better fitness.  Old, young, fast, slow, heavy, thin, man, woman - we make up an awesome community and regardless of the course, it is always a blast to be out there with everyone.  OK, soap box rant is over.  HA HA

2013-04-01 9:57 AM
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I abhor U-turns.  But, I guess I'll just have fun and practice my incredible cornering skills.  Maybe a drift or two on the turns, while in the aerobars is in order for this one.  HA


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luckily, i'm not fast enough on wheels that U-turns actually bother me but I can see how it would suck for many others; i make up most of my time deficits in the run.

yeah, glad i waited until now to choose my race and glad i chose Marquee oly. 28-mile bike course; i kinda like that. will be my last race as a resident of the valley. am well trained and VERY much looking forward to it!  :-)

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I switched from Leadman to Olympic relay, I had friends crash on Soma course with less turns, same cource. My grandson is doing bike portion and this is his first triathlon, I don't want him to crash and have bad impression of triathlons in general. I want this to be a fun race for both me (70), my son(42) and grandson (20), their first triathlon.
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I'm sticking with the 125, REALLY considered doing the Olympic instead, but the trail run is really intriguing (and I don't want to do the OLY course run)! My husband and I are going to run it tomorrow over lunch and have mapped it out, but it looks fun! Compared to the Oly run (which I've done multiple times), I'm kind of looking forward to it!
I'm trying to embrace the bike course...with 4 loops my family can see me more so it is more exciting for them. Also, it is good for pacing and in past races, I've been pretty consistent with times/loop.
I do wish they would extend the cut offs for the swim portion though...I can swim 2500 in under an hour (in a pool) but OWS is totally different. AND, being female in 40+ age group, we always start last and only have 1:15 to get it done...plus my swim is NOT where it should be.
Will be an interesting day!
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runspingirl - 2013-04-02 4:40 AM I'm sticking with the 125, REALLY considered doing the Olympic instead, but the trail run is really intriguing (and I don't want to do the OLY course run)! My husband and I are going to run it tomorrow over lunch and have mapped it out, but it looks fun! Compared to the Oly run (which I've done multiple times), I'm kind of looking forward to it! I'm trying to embrace the bike course...with 4 loops my family can see me more so it is more exciting for them. Also, it is good for pacing and in past races, I've been pretty consistent with times/loop. I do wish they would extend the cut offs for the swim portion though...I can swim 2500 in under an hour (in a pool) but OWS is totally different. AND, being female in 40+ age group, we always start last and only have 1:15 to get it done...plus my swim is NOT where it should be. Will be an interesting day!

There's a couple swim events before April 14th in Tempe Lake that you can do to get you more comfortable.

There's the AZ OPen water swim (1500m, 3000m, 4500m distances) this Sunday. 

http://www.azopenwater.com/

 .. and a Splash and Dash April 11th.

http://www.4peaksracing.com/events/ironcare-splash-n-dash-race-1-spring-2013

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Where did you find the cutoff times?  I don't see them on the Red Rock site and last I heard they hadn't adjusted them from last year's Marquee HIM.  When I asked on FB a few months ago, they said they would post update there, and nothing yet. 


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foyth - 2013-04-01 7:24 PMI switched from Leadman to Olympic relay, I had friends crash on Soma course with less turns, same cource. My grandson is doing bike portion and this is his first triathlon, I don't want him to crash and have bad impression of triathlons in general. I want this to be a fun race for both me (70), my son(42) and grandson (20), their first triathlon.
I have only done four triathlons (2 sprint and 2 Olys) and never done a race longer than an Oly. However,it seems to me that the course does not cause crashes. Cyclists taking turns too fast cause crashes. Call me conservative, but I am overly cautious making those turns. BTW, I would have preferred the Beeline route of last year's HIM. Race on!!
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weissjaz - 2013-04-02 7:27 PMWhere did you find the cutoff times?  I don't see them on the Red Rock site and last I heard they hadn't adjusted them from last year's Marquee HIM.  When I asked on FB a few months ago, they said they would post update there, and nothing yet. 
I also emailed Red Rock on the cut-off times and got the same response. Otherwise, I would not have signed up for the 125 because I do not think I could have made the bike cut-off. It is going to be a fun race!
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I am going to try to make the Splash n Dash next Thursday. I will be out of town this weekend so can't do the other one.
Oh I do hope they adjust the cut off times! I've been checking periodically and so far it is still the same. Will be the first race I've done where I've been worried about this.

Re: the bike course and accidents...most of the accidents I've seen/heard about is from cyclists taking the corners too fast (Priest and Rio Salado especially, and the one up on College is really tight). Since I'm a MOP rider, I find that after around 2 laps ((SOMA), all the super cyclists have passed me and the course becomes much calmer. You just have to be aware of those around and behind you and make appropriate speed changes so you can make the turn safely. I don't feel the turns are dangerous, just annoying!
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LeadmanTri Epic 125 Marquee Wave Start Times

 

7 a.m.Wave 1Pro and Male 0-34
7:03 a.m.Wave 2Male 35-44
7:06 a.m.Wave 3Relays and Male 45-54
7:09 a.m.Wave 4Male 55+
7:12 a.m.Wave 5Female 0-39
7:15 a.m.Wave 6Female 40+
7:18 a.m.Wave 7First Timers *Please let us know at packet pickup if you would like to be in this wave.*
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