Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

DanielG - 2012-06-28 11:44 AM

Samyg - 2012-06-28 11:24 AM

In my son's school, from the first day they suggest you put sunscreen at home, but tell you that you can leave the sunscreen at school and teachers will apply as long as you sign a form allowing it. Not that complicated. It covers their back from parents suing them due to any issue with sunscreens (allergies, etc). Its sad, but schools need to protect themselves from the litigious society we live in. I feel that as long as its communicated to the parents in advance, is not really an issue.

Now, if the kids in the story are "fair skin" and they are going to a field trip, wouldn't the parents put sunscreen? Very easy to blame the school, but the first (and main) party at fault here are the parents.

All that's great except for the fact that that school forbid sunscreen regardless of parental desire. Who in the hell would require a doctor's note for sunscreen?

The school system that got sued because a child had an allergic reaction to the sunscreen (it happens) and felt the school was at fault for applying.

I however agree that we overregulate (but do we have to to prevent lawsuits - but in this case brought one anyway).

Regardless - Mom could have, and should have checked the weather report - even more so due to the "conditions" her children have.

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

deleted my post

Edited by flip18436572 2012-06-28 1:43 PM

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

Wondering if the kid is choking if the teachers must consult each other before touching the child.

Edited by hrliles 2012-06-28 2:13 PM

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

wwlani - 2012-06-28 1:38 PM

DanielG - 2012-06-28 11:44 AM

Samyg - 2012-06-28 11:24 AM

In my son's school, from the first day they suggest you put sunscreen at home, but tell you that you can leave the sunscreen at school and teachers will apply as long as you sign a form allowing it. Not that complicated. It covers their back from parents suing them due to any issue with sunscreens (allergies, etc). Its sad, but schools need to protect themselves from the litigious society we live in. I feel that as long as its communicated to the parents in advance, is not really an issue.

Now, if the kids in the story are "fair skin" and they are going to a field trip, wouldn't the parents put sunscreen? Very easy to blame the school, but the first (and main) party at fault here are the parents.

All that's great except for the fact that that school forbid sunscreen regardless of parental desire. Who in the hell would require a doctor's note for sunscreen?

The school system that got sued because a child had an allergic reaction to the sunscreen (it happens) and felt the school was at fault for applying.

I however agree that we overregulate (but do we have to to prevent lawsuits - but in this case brought one anyway).

Regardless - Mom could have, and should have checked the weather report - even more so due to the "conditions" her children have.

Exactly. And who sued the school? The parent did. The teacher did something she/he felt was in the best interest of the child by putting sunblock on them, or giving them an advil or whatever, and some parent lost their mind and sued the school for having the audacity to try to act in loco parentis.

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

jmk-brooklyn - 2012-06-28 3:23 PM

wwlani - 2012-06-28 1:38 PM

DanielG - 2012-06-28 11:44 AM

Samyg - 2012-06-28 11:24 AM

In my son's school, from the first day they suggest you put sunscreen at home, but tell you that you can leave the sunscreen at school and teachers will apply as long as you sign a form allowing it. Not that complicated. It covers their back from parents suing them due to any issue with sunscreens (allergies, etc). Its sad, but schools need to protect themselves from the litigious society we live in. I feel that as long as its communicated to the parents in advance, is not really an issue.

Now, if the kids in the story are "fair skin" and they are going to a field trip, wouldn't the parents put sunscreen? Very easy to blame the school, but the first (and main) party at fault here are the parents.

All that's great except for the fact that that school forbid sunscreen regardless of parental desire. Who in the hell would require a doctor's note for sunscreen?

The school system that got sued because a child had an allergic reaction to the sunscreen (it happens) and felt the school was at fault for applying.

I however agree that we overregulate (but do we have to to prevent lawsuits - but in this case brought one anyway).

Regardless - Mom could have, and should have checked the weather report - even more so due to the "conditions" her children have.

Exactly. And who sued the school? The parent did. The teacher did something she/he felt was in the best interest of the child by putting sunblock on them, or giving them an advil or whatever, and some parent lost their mind and sued the school for having the audacity to try to act in loco parentis.

The question should be WHY is the first thought (most) have is SUE - my son had a reaction to sunscreen I put it on him - if the teacher had my first thought wouldn't have been to sue the school, the teacher or get rules inacted to prevent from happening to another child. I WOULD ask that only a certain sunscreen be used for my son OR I would apply at home.

So many want the "system" to handle what should be parent/guardian responsibilities then when they do they get upset. You can't have it both ways. Oh wait, I forgot you can, just sue....pi**es me off

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jmk-brooklyn - 2012-06-28 1:23 PM

Did I read a different article? Where did you get "running, jumping, three-legged race"?

So your school goes out and watches the grass grow during a "field day"

jmk-brooklyn - 2012-06-28 1:23 PM
And yes, like so many other things, it is the parent's responsibility. Was every other kid in the school burned to a crisp too? I'm going to guess not. Where are the hundreds of other parents from the same school wailing about their poor children who were denied sunblock as theiy roasted in the opressive heat? Please. It's yet another example, and there are hundreds every day, it seems, of parents expecting everyone else to be responsible for their kids. But, on the other hand, I'm sure if a well-meaning teacher had take pity on the poor kids and put sunblock on her daughters, this mome would be blogging about how they used a non-organic, non-hypoalergenic product on her daughter and HOW DARE THEY!?!?!

Amusing and utterly irrelevant to this particular discussion.

How about taking the girls back into the school when they show sunburn signs? Apparently the teachers and volunteers noticed it enough to comment. That answer has not one whit to do with putting sunscreen on anyone. But if the school system and posters here who defend the school system cannot think of that then I guess we're in worse straights than I originally thought.

How about letting the kids bring their own bloody sunscreen. Gee, there's a thought. Kid brings own sunscreen and applies it as necessary. Not school issue. Not asking the school to even think, just allow a preventative measure be brought from home to be used on the kid.

Sad, really. Homeschool really is the way to go. Shame sense cannot be applied even when discussing possible corrections that have nothing to do with applying anything.

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

hrliles - 2012-06-28 3:11 PM

Wondering if the kid is choking if the teachers must consult each other before touching the child.

Apparently the only proper recourse is to get a waiver signed by the choking student's parent/guardian, the principal and at least three witnesses in triplicate prior to doing any first aid and even then it must only be done by a certified EMT that they have to wait for and body cavity search prior to allowing on school property.

Don't want sued, y'know.

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

wwlani - 2012-06-28 2:38 PM

DanielG - 2012-06-28 11:44 AM

Samyg - 2012-06-28 11:24 AM

In my son's school, from the first day they suggest you put sunscreen at home, but tell you that you can leave the sunscreen at school and teachers will apply as long as you sign a form allowing it. Not that complicated. It covers their back from parents suing them due to any issue with sunscreens (allergies, etc). Its sad, but schools need to protect themselves from the litigious society we live in. I feel that as long as its communicated to the parents in advance, is not really an issue.

Now, if the kids in the story are "fair skin" and they are going to a field trip, wouldn't the parents put sunscreen? Very easy to blame the school, but the first (and main) party at fault here are the parents.

All that's great except for the fact that that school forbid sunscreen regardless of parental desire. Who in the hell would require a doctor's note for sunscreen?

The school system that got sued because a child had an allergic reaction to the sunscreen (it happens) and felt the school was at fault for applying.

I however agree that we overregulate (but do we have to to prevent lawsuits - but in this case brought one anyway).

Regardless - Mom could have, and should have checked the weather report - even more so due to the "conditions" her children have.

Was it a sunscreen the child brought for personal use? Might that be a better thing to think of rather than one size fits all?

Even had mom checked weather, kiddo was not allowed to have a hat or sunscreen to put on later due to idiotic zero tolerance rules.

Also does not preclude any teacher or volunteer from taking the girls inside given they apparently had time to comment on how sunburnt they were getting. That one is even eluding people who want to make the entirely about the mom

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

hrliles - 2012-06-28 2:11 PM

Wondering if the kid is choking if the teachers must consult each other before touching the child.

Probably not, but don't think for a minute that if a well-meaning teacher inadvertantly breaks the kid's rib while adminsitering the Heimlich maneuver in the course of saving his life that there's isn't a chance that the kid's parents will sue the school for injuring their child. Not to mention the fact that the school was certainly at fault for allowing improperly-sized food in the school lunch or for failing to notice that the lunch the kid brought from home was not cut up into tiny pieces. Where was the lunchroom monitor? Couldn't she see that the kid was about to take too big a bite of his sandwich?

Honestly, do people seriously think that it's the responsibility of the teachers to monitor hundreds of kids for sun exposure and individually apply two-ounce dollops of hypoallergenic sunblock to all of them at two -hour intervals? Did anyone do that to you when you were in school? No, and yet somehow, you survived.

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

DanielG - 2012-06-28 2:40 PM

jmk-brooklyn - 2012-06-28 1:23 PM

Did I read a different article? Where did you get "running, jumping, three-legged race"?

So your school goes out and watches the grass grow during a "field day"

Not sure if you've ever been to Brooklyn. We don't have a lot of fields here, so I'm unfamiliar with the term. My kid goes on field trips, but I guess that's not the same thing.

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

jmk-brooklyn - 2012-06-28 4:59 PM

DanielG - 2012-06-28 2:40 PM

jmk-brooklyn - 2012-06-28 1:23 PM Did I read a different article? Where did you get "running, jumping, three-legged race"?

So your school goes out and watches the grass grow during a "field day"

Not sure if you've ever been to Brooklyn. We don't have a lot of fields here, so I'm unfamiliar with the term. My kid goes on field trips, but I guess that's not the same thing.

jmk, great posts in this thread. I totally agree. The parent doesn't do their job, so what's the next step? Sue the school because the parent forgot to put sunscreen on their very fair-skinned child.

...now if I could just convince you that Ali in his prime would have taken down Tyson in his prime...

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Subject: RE: Sunscreen forbidden at schools and camps

I have a friend with fair skinned boys. Before sending them to day camp she does sunscreen and SPF rash guard shirts with sleeves. It's not rocket science folks and not the schools job.

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KeriKadi - 2012-06-28 7:52 PM I have a friend with fair skinned boys. Before sending them to day camp she does sunscreen and SPF rash guard shirts with sleeves. It's not rocket science folks and not the schools job.

Imagine that! A parent properly preparing their child on a high UV day. Technology is out there, long sleeves can be breathable wicking away sweat, and still provide UV protection. From the pic I saw, the fair-skinned girl was sent to school without sunscreen applied...in a shirt with tiny little straps...bare-shouldered/upper backed. I feel bad for the kid.

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