UAE Running American Ports? (Page 2)

Face it, Abraham. You are in agreement with us "liberals". I think that makes you a closet liberal.

tyrant - 2006-02-23 2:04 PM

ChuckyFinster - 2006-02-23 1:30 PM

tyrant - 2006-02-23 10:11 AM wow... its a sad day when chucky has to stick up for the liberals....

I'm not sticking up for them. I'm trying to explain our politicians aversion to Islam. One could justify their disfavor. I couldn't care less how it turns out. edited to say: As an Objectivist Libertarian, I think I'm considered a liberal

not by what you say around here.... must be a right leaning liberal...

Sorry, but the survey mentions nothing about 'civilian' targets.

Palaestinian civilians are killed by Israeli bombing attacks targetting militants. Iraqi civilians are killed by US bombing attacks targetting insurgents. If I support the US and Israeli actions, does that mean I support the blowing up of Iraqi and Palestinian civilians?

And there's a big difference between picking 'justified' because you are for it, and picking 'justified' because you can't commit to 'never justified, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever'. Which the survey does not reveal.

So, let's get back to the original topic, how any of this relates whatsoever to "security" issues with a UAE holding company buying a British company.

Or do you just enjoy fomenting dislike of Muslims in general?

-Chris

Uhm, *I* pointed out question 13 earlier, and I read the full survey.  The title of the graphic is a simplistic summary of what the questions actually detail.  I'm attacking the summarization of the survey into a smarmy little graphic.

I do not see how I am wrong.  There is nothing to cop to.

My motive is I'm questioning your justification of bigotry towards muslims/arabs.

-Chris 

*doorbell rings* Kip turns to look in the direction of the door, Napoleon smacks him upside da head.

*queue wedding song*

Why do you love me?
Why do you need me?
Always and forever.
We met in a (BT) chatroom, now our love can fully bloom.
Sure the world wide web is great
but you, you make my salivate.
Yes, I love technology but not as much as you, you see.
But I STILL love technology.
Always and forever.

Our love is like a flock of doves, flying up to heaven above.
Always and forever.
Always and forever.
Yes, our love is truly great.
Always and forever.
Why do you need me?
Why do you love me?

American GI in WWII rushing an enemy bunker with a satchel charge.  Blows up the bunker and himself in the process.  Saves his platoon.

Hero or suicide bomber?

So how does pointing to "our politicians aversion to Islam" justify your bigotry towards muslims?

-Chris 

Depends on who's doing the justifying, I guess.

You could look at it as being one of the few military options available to countries/entities that have no other military capability. We (Americans) defend ourselves with planes, ships and highly coordinated ground troops. If you're an Iraqi who views the American presence in your country as military agression that you disagree with, what else are you gonna do?

I'm not advocating it, just presenting that perspective. I like devil's advocate. 

Nope, I choose to disbelieve that what you're using to support your data backs your statement that all muslims think suicide bombings against civilians are justifiable.

And if you don't want to be lumped with them, why are you supporting their view?

I acknowledge that the couple hundred people who answered the poll question felt they were justifiable think so. 

It's a far stretch from that to your viewpoint that all muslims/arabs are evil and bent on terrorism and as such the UAE holding company represents a threat to our security.

-Chris 

I think comparing a American soldier with a satchel charge attacking a machine gun bunker or a member of the Holland resistance attacking a Nazi train is hardly a fair comparison to a terrorist with a bomb blowing up a Israeli restaurant or flying a civilian airliner into a office building.

After doing a little research today I have no issue with a UAE company running our port so long as security is still managed by our government.