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 2008-11-06 12:13 PM in reply to: #1792234 |
 Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country?AcesFull - 2008-11-06 12:38 PM 1) Some form of Universal Healthcare that provides low cost medical coverage to EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN. How are you going to pay for it? If you mandate shorting the companies, then there won't be near as many new drugs out and it won't be worth it to even consider starting up so you've just created monopolies from that. You're also eliminating all incentive to go into the medical field. That will suck in 10 years or so, just like it's done everywhere else it's tried. |
| 2008-11-06 12:17 PM in reply to: #1792381 |
Master  2232    Des Moines, Iowa | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? DanielG - 2008-11-06 12:11 PM AcesFull - 2008-11-06 12:38 PM Strict interpretation of the Second Amendment. Eliminate all non-hunting guns and all guns that are not related to a "well-regulated militia." So, now that you've eliminated all guns it's easy to say other stuff about them. I like the strict interpretation that exists. It's an individual right and as for type of firearm, if the military/police can have them so should the citizens. Misuse them and I'm all for life sentences, etc.So sign me up for a howitzer.... |
| 2008-11-06 12:22 PM in reply to: #1792234 |
Champion 6056  Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? AcesFull - 2008-11-06 11:38 AM 1) Some form of Universal Healthcare that provides low cost medical coverage to EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN. 2) Strict interpretation of the Second Amendment. Eliminate all non-hunting guns and all guns that are not related to a "well-regulated militia." Require permits for all firearms purchased for any reason. Make criminal penalties for carrying any handgun so onerous as to make it foolish to have a gun. I think that's enough for now. Flame away!
Low cost Universal Healthcare sounds great until it comes out it takes high taxes imposed on a select minority to pay for it. |
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| 2008-11-06 12:27 PM in reply to: #1792414 |
| Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? shawn barr - 2008-11-06 1:17 PM DanielG - 2008-11-06 12:11 PM AcesFull - 2008-11-06 12:38 PM Strict interpretation of the Second Amendment. Eliminate all non-hunting guns and all guns that are not related to a "well-regulated militia." So, now that you've eliminated all guns it's easy to say other stuff about them. I like the strict interpretation that exists. It's an individual right and as for type of firearm, if the military/police can have them so should the citizens. Misuse them and I'm all for life sentences, etc.So sign me up for a howitzer.... Did you not see my stipulation about nothing that explodes after it leaves the barrel? I put that in for just such arguments. This one above, look at what AcesFull says 1) Eliminate all non-hunting guns. Technicall that would eliminate none as every one has been used to hunt something but let's take that to mean restricted to bolt action centerfire rifles of > .223 caliber, .240, .270, 30 caliber (.308, 30-06, etc) .338, .416, .460 as well as all handguns of above .355 caliber as they're all great for hunting. 2) All guns not related to a "well-regulated militia" so that eliminates none as all those have been or are used in militaries around the world. But that also should bring back into play all the semi-automatic large caliber and full automatic firearms of any caliber. This is using "arms" as the literal term of the time being a small arm (your howitzer is out already from that) that is man portable and used by an infantryman during normal operation. |
| 2008-11-06 12:31 PM in reply to: #1792400 |
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| 2008-11-06 12:41 PM in reply to: #1791836 |
| Pro 4277 Parker, CO | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? 1. simplify the tax code - flat tax I really don't like a lot of govt regulation but I feel that greedy corporate America can't be trusted to regulate themselves: 2. Regulate Health Care Providers and drug companies...as Ace mentioned, marketing should not be necessary for the drug companies. Trust your doctor to find you the best perscription...don't let a TV commercial influence you to get on a new drug. 3. Tight resrictions on banking and Wallstreet. I would be happy if they banned short-selling. 4. Social Security - from what I understand this was not created to be an "entitlement". We have people with good pensions and high net worth that collect social security. Just because you paid into it doesn't mean you should collect if you don't need it. Edited by rayd 2008-11-06 12:42 PM |
| 2008-11-06 1:14 PM in reply to: #1792453 |
| Master 2232 Des Moines, Iowa | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? DanielG - 2008-11-06 12:27 PM shawn barr - 2008-11-06 1:17 PM Did you not see my stipulation about nothing that explodes after it leaves the barrel? I put that in for just such arguments. This one above, look at what AcesFull says 1) Eliminate all non-hunting guns. Technicall that would eliminate none as every one has been used to hunt something but let's take that to mean restricted to bolt action centerfire rifles of > .223 caliber, .240, .270, 30 caliber (.308, 30-06, etc) .338, .416, .460 as well as all handguns of above .355 caliber as they're all great for hunting. 2) All guns not related to a "well-regulated militia" so that eliminates none as all those have been or are used in militaries around the world. But that also should bring back into play all the semi-automatic large caliber and full automatic firearms of any caliber. This is using "arms" as the literal term of the time being a small arm (your howitzer is out already from that) that is man portable and used by an infantryman during normal operation.DanielG - 2008-11-06 12:11 PM AcesFull - 2008-11-06 12:38 PM Strict interpretation of the Second Amendment. Eliminate all non-hunting guns and all guns that are not related to a "well-regulated militia." So, now that you've eliminated all guns it's easy to say other stuff about them. I like the strict interpretation that exists. It's an individual right and as for type of firearm, if the military/police can have them so should the citizens. Misuse them and I'm all for life sentences, etc.So sign me up for a howitzer.... Heeee - I was just messing with you; but I hadn't seen your exception since it was in your original post, not the one I responded to. In general, I think there is an indordinate use of "hunting" in trying to define what firearms the 2nd amendment covers. Many people use this comparison thinking it will limit the type of firearms available to the general public (Aces as an example). The amendment says nothing about hunting (I am an avid hunter by the way). There are many other legal purposes for which people own firearms: target-shooting, home protection, their job, and for collecting. (not saying that you are using hunting for this purpose - just an observation.)
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| 2008-11-06 1:20 PM in reply to: #1791836 |
| Master 2009 Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? Access to equal educational opprotunities. |
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Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? 1, 2, 3, & 4. Significantly more Photos in the BT Guys thread. It's about 1/2 the size of the BT girls thread you guys need to be much more exhibitionist. |
| 2008-11-06 1:35 PM in reply to: #1792467 |
| Extreme Veteran 500 On the road...somewhere | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? AcesFull - 2008-11-06 12:31 PM DanielG - 2008-11-06 12:13 PM AcesFull - 2008-11-06 12:38 PM How are you going to pay for it? If you mandate shorting the companies, then there won't be near as many new drugs out and it won't be worth it to even consider starting up so you've just created monopolies from that. You're also eliminating all incentive to go into the medical field. That will suck in 10 years or so, just like it's done everywhere else it's tried.1) Some form of Universal Healthcare that provides low cost medical coverage to EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN. As I've said so many times before: 1) Drug companies spend twice as much on marketing as they do on R&D. Eliminate all marketing and there is plenty of money for R&D. Drug companies are paid through the system, just as doctors will be. 2) Just because other systems have flaws doesn't mean we can't do it better. I'm in the medical field and plan to get paid under a national system. The incentive for hard work is still there. Our current system is unacceptable. 3) The question was "what would I change if I could?" I said what I would change. Why do assume that eliminating the $ spent on marketing would be shifted to R&D? It may just turn into more profit for the industry. If a drug company spends seven years on research and development, they're going to recoup that expense and they're going to want to win against competitors to do it. That necessitates a marketing budget and it's the price society pays for having the best pharmaceuticals in the world. |
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| Expert 1603 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. |
| 2008-11-06 1:58 PM in reply to: #1792818 |
| Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. |
| 2008-11-06 1:59 PM in reply to: #1792831 |
| Expert 1603 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 2:58 PM Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. Why does it surprise you? |
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| Expert 1603 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? SweetK - 2008-11-06 2:59 PM scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 2:58 PM Men and women alike? Define service, if you mean human services, I agree. Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. Everyone. I've not worked out ALL the details of course, but either military service, peace corps or something along those lines. I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe we can get a consensus here. ;-) |
| 2008-11-06 2:04 PM in reply to: #1792836 |
| Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:59 PM scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 2:58 PM Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. Why does it surprise you? My impression-- obviously, mistaken-- was that you weren't a big military/discipline guy, and would view it as a encroachment on personal freedoms, that's all. |
| 2008-11-06 2:07 PM in reply to: #1792849 |
| Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 2:02 PM SweetK - 2008-11-06 2:59 PM scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 2:58 PM Men and women alike? Define service, if you mean human services, I agree. Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. Everyone. I've not worked out ALL the details of course, but either military service, peace corps or something along those lines. I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe we can get a consensus here. ;-) I would like it if everyone had to go through military bootcamp. Then you could choose to go into the armed services, Peace Corps, or perhaps some sort of domestic-serving version of the Peace Corps. |
| 2008-11-06 2:10 PM in reply to: #1792854 |
| Expert 1603 Westchester, NY | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 3:04 PM Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:59 PM My impression-- obviously, mistaken-- was that you weren't a big military/discipline guy, and would view it as a encroachment on personal freedoms, that's all. scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 2:58 PM Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. Why does it surprise you? Not all us liberal tree huggers are undisciplined. ;-) |
| 2008-11-06 2:10 PM in reply to: #1792496 |
| Expert 946 Barrington Area, IL | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? rayd - 2008-11-06 12:41 PM 2. Regulate Health Care Providers and drug companies...as Ace mentioned, marketing should not be necessary for the drug companies. Trust your doctor to find you the best perscription...don't let a TV commercial influence you to get on a new drug. WOW - talk about socialism. A private company that has spent MILLIONS coming up with a new drug cannot market it? There are often 2 or more companies that have competing drugs, even if you don't want TV ads they still need to market this to the doctors & hospitals. Only 1 out of 100+ drugs ever make it to market. If it was left up to only the government we would have no where near the successful remedies that we do now. Also - low cost healthcare - someone has to pay for it. Or are nurses, doctors, hospital staff all going to work at huge paycuts? |
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| Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 3:07 PM Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 2:02 PM I would like it if everyone had to go through military bootcamp. Then you could choose to go into the armed services, Peace Corps, or perhaps some sort of domestic-serving version of the Peace Corps. SweetK - 2008-11-06 2:59 PM scoobysdad - 2008-11-06 2:58 PM Men and women alike? Define service, if you mean human services, I agree. Fatdoggy - 2008-11-06 1:54 PM I actually think that would be a great idea for America. But if I'm honest, I'm really surprised to hear you say it. Not sure if this has been posted yet or not.... Mandatory one year minimum in the service upon graduation of high school. Everyone. I've not worked out ALL the details of course, but either military service, peace corps or something along those lines. I'm open to other suggestions. Maybe we can get a consensus here. ;-) Aw man you're killing me. I'd never make it through boot camp. I'd mouth off to the wrong drill instructor and wind up peeling potatoes for the rest of my life. |
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| Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: What are the top 4 things you would change if you could in our country? 1.) Welfare checks would no longer be mailed out. They would need to be picked up and proof of pursuing employment must be submitted. 2.) Children of anyone who served in the military would receive free college education. 3.) Flat tax rate. 4.) Demand that Mars create a Dove Bar that tastes the same as it currently does, but has no fat and no calories! Edited by jacasa 2008-11-06 2:15 PM |
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