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2009-08-19 9:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Triathlon and training = Obsessive?
It's all perspective. I am not nearly as obsessed as someone who is actually COMPETITIVE and can place in these events lol let alone the people that train for Ironman competitions! But ask my friends if I'm obsessed, you'll get "Hell yes!". Just depends on who you're talking to and who you're talking about.

Bottom line, it has to get done if you want to perform well. And yes, they are JEALOUS! But that's ok with me


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2009-08-19 10:25 AM
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I have been experiencing a similar situation.  This is my first year of triathalon and at the sprint level my training is manageable, however the volume increased drastically from my previous 3 days per week strength training schedule that I primarialy do at lunch.  Now I'm running and swimming in the AM, running lifting at lunch and biking/running in the evenings throught the week.  My friends and family's inability to comprehend why I would want to do this is not an issue for me, I don't care what they think, but my wife is a different story. 

What I have been having the hardest time with is she doesn't get it, she can't comprehend why I am driven by this and unfortunatley, inadvertantly lays down a level of guilt when I tell her,  I'm going out to train.  My recent purchase of a new bike caused a whole other level of stress and incomprehension.  When I try to talk to her about my goals and aspirations in triathalon including upcoming races, HIM's and the promisland of IM she blows it off, or thinks it is ludricris.  Outside of 1-2 quick 30-45 min training sessions in the evening, I schedule the majority of my training around family time so I can spend as much time as possible with her and our son.

We have an awesome 3 year old boy who loves to put on daddy's running shoes when I get back from a run, or put on his bike helmet and says, "Daddy, I do triafanon" when I exited the lake during my 1st tri, I could hear him screaming "lets go Daddy" which melts my heart!  I try to use that as an example for my wife to show the positive influence on our child my training and goals will have, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. 

My wife is my best friend and we do everything together and we have a tremendous relationship, I would love for that to be the case with triathalon, but it is not.  This puts me in a tough spot when I plan on upping the ante over the next few years to Olympic training next year, HIM and IM training in the future. 

Has anyone else experienced this with their significant others?  Any advice for a noob struggling with this life-training balance? Has this been addressed here in the past?  And what is the best way to convince my wife I need a wetsuit?  HA!   

-B

2009-08-19 10:38 AM
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maria40nc - 2009-08-19 9:12 AM People tend to get "un-nerved" when others successfully commit to something for the better because it makes there own lack of commitment seem amplified.

It's comforting for them to convince themsleves the YOU are the one with the problem, rather than have to admit their own shortcomings. It gives them permission to stay on their own unhealthy path.


Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Many, many people suffer from at least one of the following three syndromes:
1. Massive insecurity. They need constant positive reinforcement for whatever it is they're doing. If they aren't getting it, they go try to break others down to make themselves feel better, even if they have to make stuff up to do it ("That guy is in great shape. What a jerk").
2. Allergy to effort. Trying at anything is so beyond them that it's incomprehensible.
3. Assuming everything is about them. If they hear about anyone anywhere who thinks or acts differently from how they think/act, they assume it's a criticism about what they think or do, and respond accordingly. (You say "I [anything]" and they automatically hear "... and you aren't/don't, and anyone who isn't/doesn't sucks.")

Everyone does this stuff a little bit sometimes, and you can see how these three states easily reinforce each other.
2009-08-19 10:39 AM
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kimmax - 2009-08-19 5:37 AM
skarl - 2009-08-19 1:32 AM
losta - 2009-08-18 10:43 PM That is why people use BT logs. We are all in the same boat.

Yep.  Training stays on BT.   Otherwise all I get are responses re: why they can't fit it all in (like this is about them?) and I know they could if they wanted -- not a lot of training, just some.  And I really don't want to hear the excuses because I already know them and it's hard enough to fight off my own brain and my own excuses.


I don't tell anyone because when someone finds out they express concern over my health (too much exercise and you could seriously injure yourself didn't you know!) or I have to listen to their excuses -- and as Skarl pointed out -- I'm tired of hearing them - I used to use them!!


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My friends do the same thing with telling me I'm crazy (<--this comment is quite frequent) and that they are worried that I am overdoing it...really if I think about it, I probably only do train 6-8 hrs a week right now. Now most of these people knew me when I was training competitively for swim...I was training 20-25hrs a week just for one sport! Putting that into perspective 6-8hrs is nothing!

One the other hand I also get positive comments from people. I am frequently told that I am a "MACHINE" (which I do not consider myself to be...yet)...and my most recent favourite nickname was when I was riding trails in Edmonton with one of my best friends and her boyfriend. We were just doing some relatively small hills and they were just dying and he started calling me the bionic woman and that the hills I was taking them on were "unnecessary". Haha...makes me laugh.

I don't know...I agree with the poster who said that people have a difficult time putting other peoples commitments into perspective because they don't feel they have the time. For me it doesn't just relate to tri, I had people expressing the same concerns about me trying to get into medicine.

Maybe I'm just too hardcore overall for people to understand? (Thanks tri people for understanding )



2009-08-19 10:40 AM
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A lot of it is jealousy.

People FB/ twitter about whatever they want.  Personally, I'm sick of Mafia Wars posts, and I have a FB 'friend' whose updates include "is changing a poopy diaper" and "ohmygod, my baby has an ear infection."

If they really hate reading about it, they can hide, block, or defriend you.
2009-08-19 11:05 AM
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trishie - 2009-08-19 8:40 AM A lot of it is jealousy.

People FB/ twitter about whatever they want.  Personally, I'm sick of Mafia Wars posts, and I have a FB 'friend' whose updates include "is changing a poopy diaper" and "ohmygod, my baby has an ear infection."

If they really hate reading about it, they can hide, block, or defriend you.

I'll bet those peeps who play mafia wars or farmland or take 20 quizzes a day like "what kind of body hair are you" would have plenty of time to work out if they would just stop doing that sort of stuff.....those posts make me crazy too, although I am guilty of too many posts about poop and kids! 

2009-08-19 11:47 AM
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Before I got in to endurance sports I thought triathletes were "crazy". I used to train grappling/MMA 12-15 hours a week and that felt normal, but if someone ran 9 miles or swam a mile I thought they were abusing their body somehow. Now I'm one of those crazy people who wakes up before the sun does and "tortures" himself with a two hour ride or run.
2009-08-19 12:27 PM
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My schedule sounds a lot like the OPs.  I do the majority of my training while the family is still asleep, with the exception of every other Saturday where I get a long ride or run in (typically) and they are up when I get back. 
We were visiting my parents last week and my mom said to my wife "I'm really imprressed with Cadmus' working out, I just hope he's not neglecting his family" - uh, I'm doing this for my family since both you and dad have Type II and bro and sis are well on their way, not going to happen to me if I can help it.  My wife basically told her that she couldn't be happier with the way I schedule my workouts.

I do send my workouts to twitter, but not on to Facebook.  I might post something on FB about something I saw on my ride or run, but not the details of time or distance.  Too many of my friends are not 'obsessive'
2009-08-19 12:27 PM
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IMO, you throw a lot of softballs out there for non-triathletes to bash on facebook when you throw up your workouts.  2 workouts in one day!!! OMG!!!  Agreeing with breckview a bit, but the baseline of 'normal' generally means a sliding scale of comfort with a 5k a big deal to some and the percentages getting bigger the more distance you throw up there.  How many folks you think actually regularly ride a bike for distance on a cross section of friends and family that arent tri folks?  And to how many of them is swimming going to the rec center with the kids and playing around?  And then you tack all that together?  Thats nuts!

Obsessive is subjective and relative methinks.  However, swimming instead of eating!, waking up early instead of sleeping cuz you watched TV late!!, free discussion of GI status and bodily functions, etc, etc.... these are things 'normal' folks just dont do.  I personally dont get a lot of the things 'normal' people do on the flip side of the coin, but there are a lot more of them that are ok wading through life with more in common, more that is comfortable.  Dont overanalyze it if you are having fun and those close to you support.  Maybe someday you will look back at it and think wtf was I thinking?  But for now dont expect others to understand.



2009-08-19 12:47 PM
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"Normal" is a cycle on your washing machine and I try to avoid trying to define what is "normal" for people.  Howevah if any of these things apply to you, most folks on FB might not think of you as 'normal' and it's probably just better left unsaid/unposted:
 
Your idea of a great b-day is to run your age in miles with a couple of friends.

Your idea of e great date is to go for a 10 mile run with your date.

You try to impress girls with your marathon time after swimming 2.4 miles and biking 112 miles.

When asked how long your
training was today you answer: three to four hours.

Your traning is more limited by available time then how far you can run.

Your first thought when you wake up is how high your rest HR is.

You go for a run eventhough there's a thunderstorm and you enjoy being wet and dirty.

You think an Ironman is easier then a Marathon because you don't have to start by running fast.

You think it's natural to do your 'business' behind a tree in the woods.

Nobody believes you when you say 'Never again'.

You take part in the
corporate challenge to improve your base speed.

You go for a 5 km cooldown run after a 5 km race just so that you can call it a training session.

You consider work, regeneration time between training sessions.

You co-workers don't ask you if you're going to train this weekend, but how long and how far.

You have a
water bottle when you drive your car.

You spend your 2 weeks annual vacation at a training camp.

During the vacations, when everybody else is partying, you go to sleep at 10:00pm because you're going for a long ride the next day.

You know inside out how much Protein each energy bar has.

You seriously consider applying for citizenship in Tonga, Jemen or Tschad so that you can participate in the olympic games.

When people praising you for being able to run 15 miles you're feeling insulted.

In the summer your legs are smoother then your girlfriend's.

Your kids grab water bottles and energy bars when you suggest a family stroll.

Your wife is not worried if you left for your run2 hours ago.

You need a picture for a
job application and you only have race pictures.

You use running T-shirts to clean your bike.

You are up everyday by 5:00 am, but never in work before 9:30 am!

that charming "cologne" you wear to work is chlorine

you take more
showers in a locker room than at home

6:30 am is sleeping in

the
dog runs and hides when you get the leash!

You think there are only two seasons during the year, racing and off.

you can't change the oil in your car but you can completly rebuild your bike in 45 mins

you spend more $ on training and racing clothes then work clothes

you spend 7 days going to 8 stores in 4
malls before buying a pair of running shoes but you take 1 afternoon to go to 1 car dealership and walk out with a new car 4 hours later.

when you see some lady watering her flowers and ask her if you can borrow the hose for a minute so you can fill up your water bottles.

You clean your bike more often than your car

Your car smells like a locker room.

You have everything needed in your car to be Swimming, Biking or Running with 5 minutes notice.

When asked to mow the lawn in 90 degree heat, you say that its too hot to do that (and you mean it) and then an hour later you go on a century ride because its so nice out.

you mow your legs more often than your lawn.

You tell your co-workers that you are going to "do a long brick" on saturday and just expect that they know what you are talking about.

When a co-worker asks if you are racing this weekend, you say "yeah, but I'm just running a 10k, so that is not REALLY a race".

You have more water bottles than glasses in your cupboard

You consider you bike
saddle your "couch"

You consider Clif Bars as one of the four food groups

you are sick to your stomach at 2:00 in the morning and check the back of the Pepto Bismol bottle for caloric content and grams of carbohydrates, fat and protein.

you have plenty of water bottles, safety pins, and t-shirts.

you have trouble keeping lunch under 2000 calories.

you usually wake up at 4:00 in the morning but do not get to work until way after 9:00.

you have a $4000 bike strapped on top of your $2000 car.

you have no trouble pushing a day's caloric intake to over 8000 calories.

your area needs rain real bad but you're mad when it does cause it screws up your run and bike schedule... ,actually, you might be mad, but you still go out for your ride or your run in the rain...
you're always wet! Either sweat water,
pool water, sea water, shower water, bath water or its p*****g down outside!

your bed-time reading on your night stand consists of a pile of: DeSoto catalogs; InsideTri; Triathlete, VeloNews, USMA Swim, etc.

you haven't bought work clothes in two years, yet you own bike shorts made by every manufacturer under the sun and can recite the merits of CoolMax, Supplex, etc. in your sleep!

your car has at least one Power Bar wrapper and two sets of work out clothes!

you know you could make a killing at Jeopardy if only the categories were: - Past winners of Hawaii Ironman - Legs
shaving techniques - 40-30-30 diet - Aerodynamics racing wheels - Gastrointestinal problems and long runs - How to justify a 4000$ bike

your kids idea of playing is a bike and run race followed by clif bars, water bottles and awards ceremony.

your laundry continually smells like someone locked the cat in overnight...

you leave your
apartment or house in the morning with your swim bag on one arm, bike on one shoulder, a change of clothes in another bag, and your running stuff in another bag in case you can get away at lunch for a workout.

you look like a pack mule wherever you go.

you
wave at other cyclists, because all triathletes are friendly and if they are not, they are probably purist cyclists trying to get into triathlons and they do not know that triathletes are friendly.

you can't decide what tee shirt to where to your next race.

you no longer take vacations but weekend triathlon junkets.

you have far more pairs of shoes in your closet than your non-tri wife does in hers

the one "suit" you own has a QR on the
chest.

you think about having sex, but you don't want it to effect your morning run splits. (Or if you do, you wear a heart rate monitor and measure your recovery time afterwards)

your
living room has the "swim pile" and the "bike pile" and the "run pile" and the "weight room pile" and you pick and choose kind of like a cafeteria on your way out the door.

your kitchen cupboards are organized into "protein", "carbs" and "etc"

your breakfast consists of enough bagels that the bagel guy hands you a
freezer bag with your order.

you're tempted to do your long rides in a speedo so that you don't have a stupid tan for your next race.

your bath towel is never dry.

you bring
bottled water to a party so that you're properly hydrated for the next morning's long run, everyone else at the party also brought their own bottled water because you don't have a social life outside of triathlon. Oh yeah, and they all showed up by 7pm and left by 10pm.

your company announces mandatory unpaid shutdown days - every other Friday thoughout the summer - in order to cut costs and stay in business, and your response is "Great - now I can do two long workouts on the weekends and still have an easy day."

you buy a separate dresser for all your race t-shirts.

your 8 year old comes home with the school record for the mile and says, he took it out in a nice pace he could hold.....everyone else died.

you fill your kids' water bottles with Cytomax instead of blue gatorade.

you can ask your mom and your sister and all other girlfriends for shaving advice!!!

you say that you went to a race last weekend...and somebody responds "running or biking" and you are again forced to explain....

your co-workers catch you with a 'King Sized' meal deal from Burger King, and you can smile and tell them that you will have no problem working this off on the way home.

you started the day with a
protein shake, had a scone and latte after swimming and commuting, then head out for coffee with the coworkers and have a a bagel and cream cheese.

you wear your bathing suit under your work clothes to make a fast transition from work to swim on your lunch hour.

you name your two new puppies Kona and Hawi

the dog hides until you've showered.

your spouse wants dinner out and a movie, so you agree, but
fall asleep during the previews and catch hell.

mowing the lawn really smarts after being aero all morning.

you show up at the neighborhood pool on your bike in a speedo and embarrass your teenage daughters.

you've spent more on bikes in the last 10 years than you have on clothes for the past 50!

your hair is never dry.

you were awake for the Northridge quake (4:30 AM) because you were out running ... and you showed up for 6 AM
Masters swim workout and wondered where everybody was.

somebody hands you a cup of water and you have to restrain yourself from pouring it on your head.

you forget that talking about daily LSD [Long Slow Distance] and speed weirds some people out.

you have no FRIGGIN idea what to do with yourself on your off day. Damnit, I mowed the lawn, cleaned the house, washed the car, and there's STILL 4 hours of daylight left! Aarrgghh!

you come into the office every morning and check BT before you check your email.

you return from your *Mini-vacation* more exhausted than before you left!

you feel like you took the day off because all you did was swim 3000 yards.

You get done with a hard workout and drink a recovery drink while on the toilet and in the shower.

At any given moment you know exactly where your heart rate monitor and your swim googles are, but cannot remember where you left you car keys. (turns 90% of the time they are in your bike bag

When non-racer friends tell you they ran/rode you automatically calculate their pace to see if you're still in better shape.

Cars pass you on the road when you're driving and you either drop back to get out of draft zone or speed up to attack!
 

 

 

 



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2009-08-19 12:47 PM
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How did you guys link workouts to your facebook status? I would love to annoy my fat, lazy, old friends with my successes.
2009-08-19 1:11 PM
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Ok put it into perspective this way - people can't understand how or why we do as much as we do, but WE can't understand how or why THEY DONT!
2009-08-19 1:15 PM
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I am a mother of two young children (4 & 2) and I work full time an hour from my house.  I still find time to train 5-7 hours a week.  After leading a sedentary lifestyle for years and telling myself that someday there would be more time to exercise I decided to change my life before time really did run out.  In the last 10 months I've lost over 70 pounds and have gotten myself into pretty good shape and I've never been happier.  Some of my friends question how I could go out and workout some evenings leaving my kids at home with my husband.  If I was a guy and went out of town on business all the time would I get the same questions?  I eat healthy now, don't drink, don't watch TV and I've never felt better so why do other people have to complain about it.  In the long run my kids will benefit from a mom that leads a healthy lifestyle and as they get older I plan on doing more active things that include them (and hopefully my husband - I'm working on him).

I understand that as a mother of young kids it is hard to find the energy and commitment to do tris but I don't understand why if you can't do that why you have to say negative things to me about it.  I'm lucky that I've found a group of other moms in the same situation as me and I'm already starting to see that over time these will be the friends that I spend more and more time with.  I've finally found something that I can obsess about (in a good way) which is a relief after feeling like I was lost in my roll as a working mom who hates her job . . .

2009-08-19 1:19 PM
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For me its just one guy (my boss) who is somewhat negative towards it, and since he's a former jock / alpha male, he tries to denigrate anyone who challenges his role as top jock / alpha male.

Of course he know's I'll destroy him now so he stays out of any endurance activities.  For him its just better to criticize then to participate and get beat.


2009-08-19 1:32 PM
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Some folks spend their lives being "obsessive" about not exercising and being unhealthy.
2009-08-19 1:34 PM
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nerak11 - 2009-08-19 11:15 AM

I am a mother of two young children (4 & 2) and I work full time an hour from my house.  I still find time to train 5-7 hours a week.  After leading a sedentary lifestyle for years and telling myself that someday there would be more time to exercise I decided to change my life before time really did run out.  In the last 10 months I've lost over 70 pounds and have gotten myself into pretty good shape and I've never been happier.  Some of my friends question how I could go out and workout some evenings leaving my kids at home with my husband.  If I was a guy and went out of town on business all the time would I get the same questions?  I eat healthy now, don't drink, don't watch TV and I've never felt better so why do other people have to complain about it.  In the long run my kids will benefit from a mom that leads a healthy lifestyle and as they get older I plan on doing more active things that include them (and hopefully my husband - I'm working on him).

I understand that as a mother of young kids it is hard to find the energy and commitment to do tris but I don't understand why if you can't do that why you have to say negative things to me about it.  I'm lucky that I've found a group of other moms in the same situation as me and I'm already starting to see that over time these will be the friends that I spend more and more time with.  I've finally found something that I can obsess about (in a good way) which is a relief after feeling like I was lost in my roll as a working mom who hates her job . . .



Congrats on the weight loss!  It looks like you have accomplished a lot in the past 10 months.
2009-08-19 2:01 PM
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trishie - 2009-08-19 11:40 AM A lot of it is jealousy.

That's a bit of an assumption, don't you think?

I think a lot of us assume that our "non-athletic" friends are just jealous of how "awesome" we all are, but really, most of it comes down to the fact that they're simply not interested in triathlon. I have plenty of friends who think triathlon and running are "crazy", but they still eat well, take care of themselves, exercise regularly, etc - they just don't do triathlons. Doing cardio-kickboxing and lifting weights will still keep you fit and healthy. I think most triathletes are quick to judge those that don't do the stuff we do, as if triathlon were the only way to keep ourselves healthy happy. What about a FB friend who's an accomplished musican posting "Had fantastic rehearsal and laid down some sweet tracks" or "got second violin with _____ orchestra" - would you take as much interest in those goals and accomplishments as you expect non-athletes to take in yours? Doubtful. Would some of you perhaps be SLIGHTLY jealous because they're making something happen for them that you didn't have the talent for? I'd bet possibly so... (sorry, I used a music example because it's what I know, but you get the idea - fill it in with horseback riding or publishing a novel or whatever else you want)

Thing is, triathlon is not the only interest worth having. It's not the only thing that makes us happy, keeps us healthy, validates us as human beings. I'm quite sure that there are people out there who find great joy in coaching youth sports, keep themselves healthy by not smoking or drinking, do something active every single day, even if that's riding a stationary bike for an hour. My mom walks 4 miles every day. She's not a triathlete. Does that make her "lazy" and "unmotivated" as everyone has accused those who don't do triathlons of being? That's just an example, but you get my point. Perhaps triathlon just doesn't interest some people. Perhaps they prefer to spend their time, energy and motivation doing something else. Not everyone who isn't a triathlete is a lazy, fat slob. Sure there are lots of lazy fat slobs in this world - I know for a fact that there are former lazy, fat slobs on here. But I don't think the most worthy path to getting out of that state is to become someone who does nothing but eat/sleep/breathe/dream/poop triathlon.

If you want friends who will coo and awe over your athletic achievements, ditch your non-triathlete friends and hang out solely with triathletes. Personally, I wouldn't want such a one-sided lifestyle, but if that makes you happy, then cool. Just keep in mind that not everyone shares your enthusiasms and that's actually okay. There are more things in life to enjoy - like Krispy Kremes

Take this with a grain of salt, flame me or whatever.

 

 

2009-08-19 2:17 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2009-08-19 1:01 PM

trishie - 2009-08-19 11:40 AM A lot of it is jealousy.

That's a bit of an assumption, don't you think?

I think a lot of us assume that our "non-athletic" friends are just jealous of how "awesome" we all are, but really, most of it comes down to the fact that they're simply not interested in triathlon. I have plenty of friends who think triathlon and running are "crazy", but they still eat well, take care of themselves, exercise regularly, etc - they just don't do triathlons. Doing cardio-kickboxing and lifting weights will still keep you fit and healthy. I think most triathletes are quick to judge those that don't do the stuff we do, as if triathlon were the only way to keep ourselves healthy happy. What about a FB friend who's an accomplished musican posting "Had fantastic rehearsal and laid down some sweet tracks" or "got second violin with _____ orchestra" - would you take as much interest in those goals and accomplishments as you expect non-athletes to take in yours? Doubtful. Would some of you perhaps be SLIGHTLY jealous because they're making something happen for them that you didn't have the talent for? I'd bet possibly so... (sorry, I used a music example because it's what I know, but you get the idea - fill it in with horseback riding or publishing a novel or whatever else you want)

Thing is, triathlon is not the only interest worth having. It's not the only thing that makes us happy, keeps us healthy, validates us as human beings. I'm quite sure that there are people out there who find great joy in coaching youth sports, keep themselves healthy by not smoking or drinking, do something active every single day, even if that's riding a stationary bike for an hour. My mom walks 4 miles every day. She's not a triathlete. Does that make her "lazy" and "unmotivated" as everyone has accused those who don't do triathlons of being? That's just an example, but you get my point. Perhaps triathlon just doesn't interest some people. Perhaps they prefer to spend their time, energy and motivation doing something else. Not everyone who isn't a triathlete is a lazy, fat slob. Sure there are lots of lazy fat slobs in this world - I know for a fact that there are former lazy, fat slobs on here. But I don't think the most worthy path to getting out of that state is to become someone who does nothing but eat/sleep/breathe/dream/poop triathlon.

If you want friends who will coo and awe over your athletic achievements, ditch your non-triathlete friends and hang out solely with triathletes. Personally, I wouldn't want such a one-sided lifestyle, but if that makes you happy, then cool. Just keep in mind that not everyone shares your enthusiasms and that's actually okay. There are more things in life to enjoy - like Krispy Kremes

Take this with a grain of salt, flame me or whatever. 

I agree with just aboout everything you said.. most non-triathlete's don't give a rat's arse about triathlons and don't envy the lifestyle.  A couple years ago a good friend used the phrase "one-deminsional" to desribe his sister, a triatlete.  At the time I took offense to the statement, partly because I felt it was a jab at me.  Anyway I think about his comment often.  Triathlon is a great sport for those of us that take part...but the majority of people I know really are not all that interested.  And most of them are fairly fit and active...just don't do triathlon.

2009-08-19 2:22 PM
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rayd - 2009-08-19 1:17 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2009-08-19 1:01 PM

trishie - 2009-08-19 11:40 AM A lot of it is jealousy.

That's a bit of an assumption, don't you think?

I think a lot of us assume that our "non-athletic" friends are just jealous of how "awesome" we all are, but really, most of it comes down to the fact that they're simply not interested in triathlon. I have plenty of friends who think triathlon and running are "crazy", but they still eat well, take care of themselves, exercise regularly, etc - they just don't do triathlons. Doing cardio-kickboxing and lifting weights will still keep you fit and healthy. I think most triathletes are quick to judge those that don't do the stuff we do, as if triathlon were the only way to keep ourselves healthy happy. What about a FB friend who's an accomplished musican posting "Had fantastic rehearsal and laid down some sweet tracks" or "got second violin with _____ orchestra" - would you take as much interest in those goals and accomplishments as you expect non-athletes to take in yours? Doubtful. Would some of you perhaps be SLIGHTLY jealous because they're making something happen for them that you didn't have the talent for? I'd bet possibly so... (sorry, I used a music example because it's what I know, but you get the idea - fill it in with horseback riding or publishing a novel or whatever else you want)

Thing is, triathlon is not the only interest worth having. It's not the only thing that makes us happy, keeps us healthy, validates us as human beings. I'm quite sure that there are people out there who find great joy in coaching youth sports, keep themselves healthy by not smoking or drinking, do something active every single day, even if that's riding a stationary bike for an hour. My mom walks 4 miles every day. She's not a triathlete. Does that make her "lazy" and "unmotivated" as everyone has accused those who don't do triathlons of being? That's just an example, but you get my point. Perhaps triathlon just doesn't interest some people. Perhaps they prefer to spend their time, energy and motivation doing something else. Not everyone who isn't a triathlete is a lazy, fat slob. Sure there are lots of lazy fat slobs in this world - I know for a fact that there are former lazy, fat slobs on here. But I don't think the most worthy path to getting out of that state is to become someone who does nothing but eat/sleep/breathe/dream/poop triathlon.

If you want friends who will coo and awe over your athletic achievements, ditch your non-triathlete friends and hang out solely with triathletes. Personally, I wouldn't want such a one-sided lifestyle, but if that makes you happy, then cool. Just keep in mind that not everyone shares your enthusiasms and that's actually okay. There are more things in life to enjoy - like Krispy Kremes

Take this with a grain of salt, flame me or whatever. 

I agree with just aboout everything you said.. most non-triathlete's don't give a rat's arse about triathlons and don't envy the lifestyle.  A couple years ago a good friend used the phrase "one-deminsional" to desribe his sister, a triatlete.  At the time I took offense to the statement, partly because I felt it was a jab at me.  Anyway I think about his comment often.  Triathlon is a great sport for those of us that take part...but the majority of people I know really are not all that interested.  And most of them are fairly fit and active...just don't do triathlon.



triathletes are waaay beyond one dimensional. like at least 3D. maybe more if you count transition and nutrition.


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You know how it goes.. Those who want look for opportunities, and those who do not look for excuses..
I have used the "higher priorities" and "do not have time" excuse many times before I finally decided that I wanted to be on the "opportunities" side.
When my younger and much heavier friends start asking how I find time and tell me they just feel too tired to exercise or have no time, I tell them it's bs. You either want to be healthy, or you do not. That's it.



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2009-08-19 3:25 PM
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rayd - 2009-08-19 3:17 PM

I agree with just aboout everything you said.. most non-triathlete's don't give a rat's arse about triathlons and don't envy the lifestyle.  A couple years ago a good friend used the phrase "one-deminsional" to desribe his sister, a triatlete.  At the time I took offense to the statement, partly because I felt it was a jab at me.  Anyway I think about his comment often.  Triathlon is a great sport for those of us that take part...but the majority of people I know really are not all that interested.  And most of them are fairly fit and active...just don't do triathlon.

Exactly. And don't get me wrong - I like triathlon, I really do. I like it as a sport, I think it's cool, it's fun to watch and on occasion, I have fun doing it :-P. I really WISH I liked cycling more than I do, or I'd be more involved. I did two relays this weekend, where I swam and ran and had a blast. But even at that, there's still other stuff that's fun and worth doing and I might be sad if I didn't get to do those things as often, and that's probably true for a lot of people.

It's like the joke "how do you know someone is a triathlete - he'll be the first one to tell you". It's funny cuz it's true.

2009-08-19 3:32 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2009-08-19 4:25 PM

rayd - 2009-08-19 3:17 PM

I agree with just aboout everything you said.. most non-triathlete's don't give a rat's arse about triathlons and don't envy the lifestyle.  A couple years ago a good friend used the phrase "one-deminsional" to desribe his sister, a triatlete.  At the time I took offense to the statement, partly because I felt it was a jab at me.  Anyway I think about his comment often.  Triathlon is a great sport for those of us that take part...but the majority of people I know really are not all that interested.  And most of them are fairly fit and active...just don't do triathlon.

Exactly. And don't get me wrong - I like triathlon, I really do. I like it as a sport, I think it's cool, it's fun to watch and on occasion, I have fun doing it :-P. I really WISH I liked cycling more than I do, or I'd be more involved. I did two relays this weekend, where I swam and ran and had a blast. But even at that, there's still other stuff that's fun and worth doing and I might be sad if I didn't get to do those things as often, and that's probably true for a lot of people.

It's like the joke "how do you know someone is a triathlete - he'll be the first one to tell you on facebook". It's funny cuz it's true.

2009-08-19 3:43 PM
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margarita - 2009-08-19 4:19 PM

You know how it goes.. Those who want look for opportunities, and those who do not look for excuses..
I have used the "higher priorities" and "do not have time" excuse many times before I finally decided that I wanted to be on the "opportunities" side.
When my younger and much heavier friends start asking how I find time and tell me they just feel too tired to exercise or have no time, I tell them it's bs. You either want to be healthy, or you do not. That's it.

Just to comment on this and add something I meant to say earlier. A lot of people here were those people at one point. Think about how you felt before you got into triathlon/running. I think it has less to do with jealousy or laziness and more to do with intimidation. Esp. when triathletes are constantly going around and rattling off stats and gears and nutrition facts and tossing off "oh, I just ran an easy 8 miles". For someone who's never run more than in their weekly pick-up soccer game, that seems like a lot. And that's why they toss off the "oh, I'm too busy, oh, I could never do that", comments. (I used to dance and do other stuff - I was active and fit, but didn't think I could run either. Even 3 miles seemed daunting at first.) Those people usually just need a reason or impetus to do it, ya know?  And have someone who isn't going to make them feel like they'll never get there. I got a friend to train for her first 10K last winter - she was very hesitant about running with me, and I'm not that fast and haven't been running for decades, or anything. Luckily, I was coming off injury and promised to run the 14:00/miles with her or whatever she was able to do. Now she runs regularly and even entered a couple of 5Ks this summer. 

So instead of mocking these people, why not try encouraging them? You can't force everyone to do something they don't want to do, but if the spark is there, blow on the flame a bit...and it'll take some of the focus off of yourself for a bit, which is healthy. Invite them to do a 5K fun run, organize a relay, etc. It shouldn't always be about winning the podium every time or only hanging out with the fastest of the fast. Don't just encourage those who are already basically at your level. Then you'll still have a small pool of very fast people and a bunch of folks who still won't like triathlon.

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