Time for something new... (Page 2)

ChipmunkHeart - 2005-11-29 11:36 AM
I have a date for my heart surgery: Dec. 16th. A new heart for a christmas present to me!

ChipmunkHeart - 2005-11-29 7:36 AM

I have a date for my heart surgery: Dec. 16th. A new heart for a christmas present to me!

oipolloi - 2005-11-29 10:49 AM

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By the way, I heard that expressing Christmas as X-Mas is Anti-Christian, hense the use of the X.  Anywone else hear of this

Xmas
This abbreviation for Christmas is of Greek origin. The word for Christ in Greek is Xristos. During the 16th century, Europeans began using the first initial of Christ's name, "X" in place of the word Christ in Christmas as a shorthand form of the word. Although the early Christians understood that X stood for Christ's name, later Christians who did not understand the Greek language mistook "Xmas" as a sign of disrespect.

from http://wilstar.com/xmas/xmassymb.htm

ride_like_u_stole_it - 2005-11-29 11:02 AM

Hmmmm.  Interesting.  Thanks for clearing that up for me.  I always thought it was disrespectfull, now I know better.

runnergirl29 - 2005-11-29 7:38 AM

It really bugs me when all people focus on is doing their Christmas shopping. I mean c'mon. Why not take the time it takes you to shop and stress over presents, and use that time toward a more giving, productive cause.

What bugs me most, is people who knock Christians and our beliefs, but then want to celebrate the holiday all out not realizing that Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus? It's not about presents. I find that soo hypocritical. They want to celebrate the "worldly" idea of the holiday, but not the Chrisitan meaning. Glad to get that off my shoulder. To me, if you don't believe then don't celebrate.

ChuckyFinster - 2005-11-29 12:07 PM I'm not a Christian but my wife is Catholic so I'm stuck with the stupid holiday. I hate Christmas and believe me when I say that if I could, I'd boycott it every year. My wife on the other hand loves it and would kill me if I played Scrooge. So I guess what I'm saying is that I have no problems knocking you for your beliefs and yes I know how hypocritical it is to celebrate Christmas. But what can I do?

ChuckyFinster - 2005-11-29 11:07 AM

But what can I do?

runnergirl29 - 2005-11-29 8:11 AM

Ever heard of being equally yoked? Sorry- ya'll can yell at me. This will totally open up a new can of worms.

runnergirl29 - 2005-11-29 12:04 PM

I think we as society have self corrupted the meaning of Christmas.  

ChuckyFinster - 2005-11-29 12:16 PM No. I don't get it...

morey1 - 2005-11-29 8:15 AM

What any good man would do...excatly what your wife tells you to do.

"I hate Christmas" Can I ask why an otherwise lighthearted individual would "HATE" spending time with family, giving and receiving a present or two, eating some good cookies, perhaps getting a day off of work or so, and looking at the city or town decorated with lights?

Those are all aspects of Christmas that don't involve Christ or religion. Is it because you think the above doesn't mesh with celebration of a religious holday? I mean, c'mon, we can make distinctions and celebrate religiously and secularly at the same time, can't we?

ChipmunkHeart - 2005-11-29 10:36 AM

Everyone should def. rent the movie/documentary "Touching the Void". It's like "Into the Thin Air", only way, way better.

Christmas in my family was always considered to be a celebration of family and the spirit of giving.

Nothern Italy rocks.

I have a date for my heart surgery: Dec. 16th. A new heart for a christmas present to me!

golfinggods - 2005-11-29 12:25 PM

I am just saying to all of you parents and none parents. Chrismas (the Santa part) is for kids, for the rest of us it is for the birth of Christ. Remember the three wise men did bring gifts when they went to Bethleham.

runnergirl29 - 2005-11-29 8:23 AM

Bascially what the Bible says is that you should not be unequally yoked. It refers to oxen, and when their unequally yoked they can't walk int he straight line. They basically keep going around in cirlces. Well the same applies to Christianity. We're taught through the following verse that we should be equally yoked- meaning that Christians should be with other Christians. In other words, Christians shoudn't be with non-Christians. There's a lot to say about this. Some Christians frimly believe this and others do not. Anyways, I'll leave it at that. I don't want to offend anyone. Just wanted to share

2 Corinthians 6:14 (New International Version)

ChuckyFinster - 2005-11-29 12:27 PM WOW! I'm wicked. ~Begin Cartman Voice~ That is sooo sweet. ~End Cartman Voice~

golfinggods - 2005-11-29 12:25 PM

Uh chipmunk how did you just blow through that?

Best of luck to you and I hope that is truely a wonderful gift for Christmas.

ChipmunkHeart - 2005-11-29 12:31 PM

Oh, well, it's actually not a huge deal, medically speaking. A relatively simple surgury, but a huge quality of life improvement for me. I guess I should have said a "new" heart. :)

Thanks for your thoughts. :)

ChipmunkHeart - 2005-11-29 12:31 PM

Oh, well, it's actually not a huge deal, medically speaking. A relatively simple surgury, but a huge quality of life improvement for me. I guess I should have said a "new" heart. Thanks for your thoughts.

runnergirl29 - 2005-11-29 11:23 AM

Bascially what the Bible says is that you should not be unequally yoked.  It refers to oxen, and when their unequally yoked they can't walk int he straight line.  They basically keep going around in cirlces.  Well the same applies to Christianity.  We're taught through the following verse that we should be equally yoked- meaning that Christians should be with other Christians.  In other words, Christians shoudn't be with non-Christians.  There's a lot to say about this.  Some Christians frimly believe this and others do not.  Anyways, I'll leave it at that.  I don't want to offend anyone.  Just wanted to share

2 Corinthians 6:14 (New International Version)

Opus - 2005-11-29 11:16 AM

I think society has corrupted the meaning of life not just the holidays. Why decry gratuitous consumption at Christmas when it takes place all year long? Christmas spending is just symptomatic of the larger problem of conspicuous consumption and consumption as therapy. I include myself in this criticism.

Renee - 2005-11-29 12:41 PM

I totally agree. This sport can lead to a great deal of conspicuous consumption, too.

Renee - 2005-11-29 10:39 AM

Then there's the secular idea of being equally yoked. If both you and your partner can accept and respect your differences, respect that your spiritual life is not a matter for a religious construct, but rather a matter of supreme individual choice - if you can respect that - then you can cohabitate with each other and move forward through life, rather than in a circle.

Your quote equates nonbelievers with the wicked; this is a fallacy. It is possible to live a life outside the Christian set of beliefs and rules and still be a person of light (not darkness). Two persons of light can be considered to be equally yoked.

I do understand your bias, Janelle, as I share a same type of bias, only the flip side of the coin. I don't want to be yoked to a Christian who doesn't accept that I can choose my own spiritual path, even if that path is outside the Christian path. However, if I met a Christian man who respects that my spiritual journey is MINE and not his or not the church's then we could likely get along really well.