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2012-06-26 11:44 PM in reply to: #4282190 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Left Brain - 2012-06-26 10:25 PM That makes perfect sense....especially with the ultra dry conditions now. And I remember reading about forest fires being worse now because of the accumulation of fuel. I suppose man and nature will always be at odds. Good luck to you. I appreciate your comment about our fire....but I can tell you, without hesitation, it was the most liberating experience of my life. You learn what's REALLY important....and you quit saving all that other stuff. Again....take care and good luck. There can be silver linings to storm clouds... but they are hard to see when you are getting dumped on. Time heals all wounds right?
Not around here, but Colorado has a HUGE load of dead wood from the Pine Beetle. It has ravaged our forests. I am amazed that stuff has not got up in all this time. Some have looked at it as a source of bio-mass for power plants. It will take a long time to get through it. |
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2012-06-27 12:00 AM in reply to: #4282204 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. powerman - 2012-06-26 11:44 PM Left Brain - 2012-06-26 10:25 PM That makes perfect sense....especially with the ultra dry conditions now. And I remember reading about forest fires being worse now because of the accumulation of fuel. I suppose man and nature will always be at odds. Good luck to you. I appreciate your comment about our fire....but I can tell you, without hesitation, it was the most liberating experience of my life. You learn what's REALLY important....and you quit saving all that other stuff. Again....take care and good luck. There can be silver linings to storm clouds... but they are hard to see when you are getting dumped on. Time heals all wounds right?
Not around here, but Colorado has a HUGE load of dead wood from the Pine Beetle. It has ravaged our forests. I am amazed that stuff has not got up in all this time. Some have looked at it as a source of bio-mass for power plants. It will take a long time to get through it.
Just to take your mind off this for a second......our home burned to the ground when our son was 7 weeks old. A neighbor and I ran into it twice (like we didn't have a brain in our collective heads) and managed to save.......nothing....it was like, well, like a chinese fire drill....I think we got some dishes or something. Anyway.....3 weeks later my wife and I are sitting in our hotel room feeling sorry for ourselves with our newborn son. We were watching the news and a story came on about a fire that killed 4 of 6 family members. Our lives changed at that moment. We moved on.....grateful for all we had and forgot about all we no longer had. All of those things we thought we lost that were so important to us didn't mean anything. We had all we needed. That principle has guided our lives to this day......we have EVERYTHING! I hope the best for you and everyone in the way of that hell.........still, blessings come in all manner, shapes, and sizes....they just do. |
2012-06-27 12:00 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Extreme Veteran 586 Edgewater, CO | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. I have never seen anything like this. 9 news had a quote from a firefighter that basically sums it up. "it is like hell being recreated on mountains" |
2012-06-27 12:13 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Elite 4148 Utah | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Not sure how the people in Co are responding to the evacuations; however, I was dumb founded watching tonight's news here in Utah (per the Wood Hollow fire) and people were not leaving when told to do so. Instead they were watering their lawns and making preparations to do what they could to "fight" the fire. Umm... didn't you see the pics of the burnt homes on the other side of the ridge??? *sigh* I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. My own family and blood refused to leave for MANY hurricane evacuations :/ Some people are just too stubborn for their own good. Prayers for all those dealing w/ and fighting fires this year. |
2012-06-27 12:24 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. New evacuation sent out. The entire North West Colorado Springs is under evacuation all the way to I-25. I just rode those hills last week. It has been a new favorite training route. I'm not at all whining about my training... I love this place. I love being here and love the mountains. I can't believe this has happened. And ther eis no end in sight for the foreseeable future. I was unaware we set a new all time record of 101F Tuesday. |
2012-06-27 12:33 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Elite 4148 Utah | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. I take it that means the card for your neighborhood has been pulled? Good Luck! Saying a prayer that a freak rainstorm w/ some winds out of the Northeast comes through. |
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2012-06-27 12:44 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Really awful to see the horrifying pics and news from you and my other friends in the area. I am sorry. My prayers are with you and all those affected in the communities, and with those trying to control the fires. |
2012-06-27 6:32 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Pro 4838 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Sorry to here this news. Hope its gets better soon for you out there. Praying for rain. |
2012-06-27 8:14 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Expert 1830 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. I was on the computer watching the local live stream news. I moved from Colorado Springs two years ago. Grew up there, went to high school there, both my kids were born at Memorial Hospital. My in-laws flew in from there yesterday. Fortunately, they live on the East side, so they are currently out of danger. But, my nephew, and his family had to evacuate as they live in mtn shadows. His mom's house is just below the quarry scar, and his grandparent's house is in the Flying W subdivision. Hoping to find out today that their houses have survived. . Sad to see my hometown on fire. |
2012-06-27 8:58 AM in reply to: #4282204 |
Master 4101 Denver | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. powerman - 2012-06-26 10:44 PM Surprisingly, the research that's coming in is showing that after a year or two - once the dead trees drop their needles - they are not any more of a fire risk than living trees. Like was mentioned, a big factor is that decades of fire suppression mean that there is much more fuel available. And not just dead on the forest floor. Normally you would have a ground fire come through every 10 years or so and clear out the clutter (crown fires are naturally occurring as well, but on the order of every few centuries or so), including saplings. However, without those fires, the forests are much more dense than they would be naturally. Normally you would expect maybe 40 - 60 trees / acre, however, in some places it can be as high as 1,000+ / acre now, and that's a lot of extra fuel. There are also other ways fire suppression has changed the character and patterns of the landscape which can make it conducive to larger fires. Combine that with the extreme heat and drought we've been experiencing and this is what you get...There can be silver linings to storm clouds... but they are hard to see when you are getting dumped on. Time heals all wounds right?
Not around here, but Colorado has a HUGE load of dead wood from the Pine Beetle. It has ravaged our forests. I am amazed that stuff has not got up in all this time. Some have looked at it as a source of bio-mass for power plants. It will take a long time to get through it. Didn't mean to go all OT on you there. The fire escaped it's lines at exactly the wrong time, right as night was falling. Hopefully with some daylight the air attack can get going again and really put a dent in it and lay down some lines. Hope you guys are hanging in there down there. And up there. |
2012-06-27 10:14 AM in reply to: #4282475 |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. lonoscurse - 2012-06-27 7:14 AM I was on the computer watching the local live stream news. I moved from Colorado Springs two years ago. Grew up there, went to high school there, both my kids were born at Memorial Hospital. My in-laws flew in from there yesterday. Fortunately, they live on the East side, so they are currently out of danger. But, my nephew, and his family had to evacuate as they live in mtn shadows. His mom's house is just below the quarry scar, and his grandparent's house is in the Flying W subdivision. Hoping to find out today that their houses have survived. . Sad to see my hometown on fire. Sorry to tell you, but they are more than likely lost. The Flying W is gone and so is that canyon. It wrapped around the scar and is threatening the Academy. So far it has made to Centennial and is holding there. |
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2012-06-27 10:35 AM in reply to: #4282777 |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. So sorry to hear about this. My cousin JUST (like 2-3 weeks) moved to CS. Her husband works at the AFB. Two days after she got there she sent pics of the smoke and fire in her backyard like yours. Wish we could send this overabundance of rain we've been having your way. |
2012-06-27 10:39 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Littleton, CO | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. In Littleton here and amazed at the fury across the state. I had to tear myself away from the coverage last night - it was surreal. Good thoughts to all affected directly and indirectly by the devastation. I've heard reports that they suspect an unattended campfire may be the cause of the Springs fire, but they really have no way of knowing yet. When a state-wide open flame ban is in effect, it's done for a reason. We'll be out of town for the 4th, but I won't be able to NOT worry about the inevitable idiots who will cause more damage with carelessness while celebrating. |
2012-06-27 10:46 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Pro 4277 Parker, CO | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. My BIL and his family live near the AF Academy...not sure of the name of the subdivision. They were evacuated last night. They loaded up their kids, dogs and whatever else they could fit and are staying east of I25 with family. Really a stressful time for so many. I had to spend some time with my 13 YO daughter last night before bed explaining to her that her cousins will be alright and that the entire state is not going to burn. I heard a guy on the news last night say that the fire will probably still be burning for 30-days. I hope some rain develops today and helps all these firefighters. |
2012-06-27 11:05 AM in reply to: #4282616 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. drewb8 - 2012-06-27 7:58 AM powerman - 2012-06-26 10:44 PM Surprisingly, the research that's coming in is showing that after a year or two - once the dead trees drop their needles - they are not any more of a fire risk than living trees. Like was mentioned, a big factor is that decades of fire suppression mean that there is much more fuel available. And not just dead on the forest floor. Normally you would have a ground fire come through every 10 years or so and clear out the clutter (crown fires are naturally occurring as well, but on the order of every few centuries or so), including saplings. However, without those fires, the forests are much more dense than they would be naturally. Normally you would expect maybe 40 - 60 trees / acre, however, in some places it can be as high as 1,000+ / acre now, and that's a lot of extra fuel. There are also other ways fire suppression has changed the character and patterns of the landscape which can make it conducive to larger fires. Combine that with the extreme heat and drought we've been experiencing and this is what you get...There can be silver linings to storm clouds... but they are hard to see when you are getting dumped on. Time heals all wounds right?
Not around here, but Colorado has a HUGE load of dead wood from the Pine Beetle. It has ravaged our forests. I am amazed that stuff has not got up in all this time. Some have looked at it as a source of bio-mass for power plants. It will take a long time to get through it. Didn't mean to go all OT on you there. The fire escaped it's lines at exactly the wrong time, right as night was falling. Hopefully with some daylight the air attack can get going again and really put a dent in it and lay down some lines. Hope you guys are hanging in there down there. And up there.
I wish there had been better planning back in the 70's when they decided to suppress all fires. There is so much fuel now that the fires burn much hotter and jump distances much quicker and easier. I have only been lucky enough to visit Colorado a few times, but the forest around CS is one of the images that sticks in my mind the most, it was beautiful! So sad to hear it is all going up in smoke. |
2012-06-27 11:44 AM in reply to: #4281529 |
Expert 1566 Prattville Insane Asylum San Antonio | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. |
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2012-06-27 12:24 PM in reply to: #4282227 |
Master 1883 San Antone, Texas | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. powerman - 2012-06-27 12:24 AM New evacuation sent out. The entire North West Colorado Springs is under evacuation all the way to I-25. I just rode those hills last week. It has been a new favorite training route. I'm not at all whining about my training... I love this place. I love being here and love the mountains. I can't believe this has happened. And ther eis no end in sight for the foreseeable future. I was unaware we set a new all time record of 101F Tuesday. Powerman -- stay safe my friend. Thinking of ya'll over there. |
2012-06-27 12:52 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
Expert 1566 Prattville Insane Asylum San Antonio | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. |
2012-06-27 1:08 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. |
2012-06-27 1:13 PM in reply to: #4282919 |
Master 4101 Denver | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Aarondb4 - 2012-06-27 10:05 AM Not just sice the 70's, but really the past 100 years or so. They thought they were doing the right thing but now we know better.I wish there had been better planning back in the 70's when they decided to suppress all fires. There is so much fuel now that the fires burn much hotter and jump distances much quicker and easier. I have only been lucky enough to visit Colorado a few times, but the forest around CS is one of the images that sticks in my mind the most, it was beautiful! So sad to hear it is all going up in smoke. Just looked out my window and we're actually getting a little sprinkle here. I'll see what I can do to push it down towards the Springs. |
2012-06-27 1:19 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. My son is out there at camp outside Gypsum CO near Glenwood Springs. I am starting to get a little concerned. Would you guys please refrain from setting Co on fire till after he come home.
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2012-06-27 3:58 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Having grown up in Colorado my thoughts and prayers go out to those affected in Colorado Springs and your neighbors to the north in Ft. Collins. |
2012-06-27 4:11 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
Veteran 361 Colorful Colorado | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Here in Boulder the Flagstaff fire (which looked really bad yesterday) is on already the wane. Fire bombers have dropped a unbelievable amount of slurry on it to kill it while it is small. Seriously, I've never seen so much slurry dropped in so short a time. And now, its starting to rain! Woohoo! Hopefully, Colorado Springs has similar good fortune. |
2012-06-27 4:25 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
121 | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Hang tough! My sister was evacuated in Northern Utah last night, but they stopped the fires 3/4 of a mile from her home. Luckily they were able to contain them over the night and she was back home after 2 days of uncertainty. I hope the same happens for you and your family in the Springs. My aunt lives there and we haven't heard from them, so we don't know what is happening. |
2012-06-27 4:27 PM in reply to: #4281529 |
Expert 924 Western WI | Subject: RE: My back yard is on fire. Praying for those who live there and for those fighting that ugly fire. Stay safe, everyone, and be smart. |
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