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 2012-11-01 4:49 PM in reply to: #4479448 |
 Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida |  Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the topmr2tony - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:44 PM No way a 1-loss team gets in if Oregon or KSU go unbeaten. If ND, Oregon and KSU all go unbeaten, I would think that KSU is left out. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:40 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. No way. The Jags would beat them easy. If there are 2 of ND/Oregon/KSU and a 1 loss SEC team, the SEC team will be left out. I respectfully disagree. A 1-loss Alabama team would be in over unbeaten Oregon or unbeaten KSU (which probably won't happen because they have to play in the Big 12 champs and someone will beat them there).
At least we both agree KSU isn't playing in the NC. If ND is undefeated, they're in. If Alabama is undefeated, they're in. Oregon and KSU are hoping for a loss or two...
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| 2012-11-01 4:51 PM in reply to: #4479453 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 5:48 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 5:44 PM I don't think so, but only if that 1 loss is this week against LSU. If it is in the SEC championship game there is no way they play for the NC. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:40 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. No way. The Jags would beat them easy. If there are 2 of ND/Oregon/KSU and a 1 loss SEC team, the SEC team will be left out. I respectfully disagree. A 1-loss Alabama team would be in over unbeaten Oregon or unbeaten KSU (which probably won't happen because they have to play in the Big 12 champs and someone will beat them there).
OK, so I agree with that. |
| 2012-11-01 4:53 PM in reply to: #4479447 |
Elite  4564   Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. |
| 2012-11-01 4:54 PM in reply to: #4479418 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 5:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. I assume and hope you are kidding about Bama beating any NFL team. Ain't happenin! |
| 2012-11-01 4:55 PM in reply to: #4479456 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:49 PM mr2tony - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:44 PM No way a 1-loss team gets in if Oregon or KSU go unbeaten. If ND, Oregon and KSU all go unbeaten, I would think that KSU is left out. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:40 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. No way. The Jags would beat them easy. If there are 2 of ND/Oregon/KSU and a 1 loss SEC team, the SEC team will be left out. I respectfully disagree. A 1-loss Alabama team would be in over unbeaten Oregon or unbeaten KSU (which probably won't happen because they have to play in the Big 12 champs and someone will beat them there).
At least we both agree KSU isn't playing in the NC. If ND is undefeated, they're in. If Alabama is undefeated, they're in. Oregon and KSU are hoping for a loss or two...
Yep. I dunno -- now that we're guaranteed a playoff I would like to see two fo the teams (preferably Notre Dame and KSU) lose so we could have a true NC. And then I'd like to see Oregon win because I am sick of SEC domination! |
| 2012-11-01 4:56 PM in reply to: #4479462 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. |
| 2012-11-01 4:58 PM in reply to: #4479466 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top mr2tony - 2012-11-01 5:55 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:49 PM Yep. I dunno -- now that we're guaranteed a playoff I would like to see two fo the teams (preferably Notre Dame and KSU) lose so we could have a true NC. And then I'd like to see Oregon win because I am sick of SEC domination! mr2tony - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:44 PM No way a 1-loss team gets in if Oregon or KSU go unbeaten. If ND, Oregon and KSU all go unbeaten, I would think that KSU is left out. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:40 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. No way. The Jags would beat them easy. If there are 2 of ND/Oregon/KSU and a 1 loss SEC team, the SEC team will be left out. I respectfully disagree. A 1-loss Alabama team would be in over unbeaten Oregon or unbeaten KSU (which probably won't happen because they have to play in the Big 12 champs and someone will beat them there).
At least we both agree KSU isn't playing in the NC. If ND is undefeated, they're in. If Alabama is undefeated, they're in. Oregon and KSU are hoping for a loss or two...
I would too. Both because Bama is led by a tremendous Jerkweasel (Satan) and because Oregon has the coolest unis. My grandfather lived in Eugene so I started following them the year before they went to the Rose Bowl and got beat on by Penn State. |
| 2012-11-01 4:58 PM in reply to: #4479469 |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. |
| 2012-11-01 5:00 PM in reply to: #4479453 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:48 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 5:44 PM I don't think so, but only if that 1 loss is this week against LSU. If it is in the SEC championship game there is no way they play for the NC. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:40 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. No way. The Jags would beat them easy. If there are 2 of ND/Oregon/KSU and a 1 loss SEC team, the SEC team will be left out. I respectfully disagree. A 1-loss Alabama team would be in over unbeaten Oregon or unbeaten KSU (which probably won't happen because they have to play in the Big 12 champs and someone will beat them there).
If they lose to LSU they won't be in the SEC title game and definitely won't get into the NC game.
Also KSU doesn't have a B12 title game. |
| 2012-11-01 5:01 PM in reply to: #4479476 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 5:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. That's hard to argue against since USC (vacated all their wins) wasn't actually in the NC and UT actually just got handed the crystal ball. UT vs Auburn... I'd have to see how Auburn did against the Spread Option that year. That was the Mack Brown "run it again Vince" year where they had two plays. Spread Option Right/Spread Option Left...
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| 2012-11-01 5:02 PM in reply to: #4479476 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 3:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. 2003 USC - AP national champion 2008 Utah - whipped Alabama in the Sugar bowl and finished as the only undefeated team.
Just off the top of my head. |
| 2012-11-01 5:04 PM in reply to: #4479484 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:01 PM kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 5:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. That's hard to argue against since USC (vacated all their wins) wasn't actually in the NC and UT actually just got handed the crystal ball. UT vs Auburn... I'd have to see how Auburn did against the Spread Option that year. That was the Mack Brown "run it again Vince" year where they had two plays. Spread Option Right/Spread Option Left...
I think you have the years mixed up. AU got passed over by USC and OU, not UT. |
| 2012-11-01 5:04 PM in reply to: #4479456 |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 5:49 PM mr2tony - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:44 PM No way a 1-loss team gets in if Oregon or KSU go unbeaten. If ND, Oregon and KSU all go unbeaten, I would think that KSU is left out. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:40 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:37 PM dsand97 - 2012-11-01 5:31 PM I think it is going to be Oregon who gets hosed this year. I truly believe they are one of the two best teams in the Nation right now. I would really love to see their speed offense against Nick Saban's hair helmet defense. But I don't think its going to work. I'm a big fan of the Ducks. But the only way anyone wins an NC who is not in the SEC is that the SEC teams all have 2 losses and can't play in the NC game. Alabama could beat 3 or 4 NFL teams right now. No way. The Jags would beat them easy. If there are 2 of ND/Oregon/KSU and a 1 loss SEC team, the SEC team will be left out. I respectfully disagree. A 1-loss Alabama team would be in over unbeaten Oregon or unbeaten KSU (which probably won't happen because they have to play in the Big 12 champs and someone will beat them there).
At least we both agree KSU isn't playing in the NC. If ND is undefeated, they're in. If Alabama is undefeated, they're in. Oregon and KSU are hoping for a loss or two...
No worries: An over achieving PITT Blue and Gold shall conquer as of old, so Fight, Pitt, FIGHT!!! Hail To Pitt!!! Larry Fitz has 1 year of eligibility left and Shady McCoy has 2; they re-enroll tomorrow and the leprechaun is relegated to lucky charm mascot agaian!!! |
| 2012-11-01 5:05 PM in reply to: #4479476 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 5:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. I am sure they can complain that they deserved a shot at the NC game. However, hard to argue that they were better than USC. |
| 2012-11-01 5:07 PM in reply to: #4479486 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:02 PM kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 3:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. 2003 USC - AP national champion 2008 Utah - whipped Alabama in the Sugar bowl and finished as the only undefeated team.
Just off the top of my head. Sorry, just can't buy that the Utes were better than Alabama tha year. |
| 2012-11-01 5:10 PM in reply to: #4479495 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:07 PM JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:02 PM Sorry, just can't buy that the Utes were better than Alabama tha year. kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 3:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. 2003 USC - AP national champion 2008 Utah - whipped Alabama in the Sugar bowl and finished as the only undefeated team.
Just off the top of my head. They destroyed Alabama, I'm not sure what you mean. Florida was the Champ that year. |
| 2012-11-01 5:12 PM in reply to: #4479503 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:10 PM Yes, I meant Florida. The bowl being a different calendar year than the season screws me up. jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:07 PM JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:02 PM Sorry, just can't buy that the Utes were better than Alabama tha year. kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 3:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. 2003 USC - AP national champion 2008 Utah - whipped Alabama in the Sugar bowl and finished as the only undefeated team.
Just off the top of my head. They destroyed Alabama, I'm not sure what you mean. Florida was the Champ that year. |
| 2012-11-01 5:15 PM in reply to: #4479506 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:12 PM JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:10 PM Yes, I meant Florida. The bowl being a different calendar year than the season screws me up. jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:07 PM JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:02 PM Sorry, just can't buy that the Utes were better than Alabama tha year. kevin_trapp - 2012-11-01 3:58 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:56 PM 2004 undefeated SEC champion Auburn. JoshR - 2012-11-01 5:53 PM Obviously it will be my opinion vs yours, but name one. jacasa - 2012-11-01 3:47 PM tri808 - 2012-11-01 4:16 PM Every time this subject comes up I feel I need to remind everyone that it is very hard to dispute that the best team in college football has been crowned National Champion. Alabama this year, Auburn in 2011, Alabama in 2010, Florida in 2009, LSU in 2008, Florida in 2007 and so on. Why will a 4 team playoff be better? Fans of teams 5 and 6 will flood their message boards and talk radio with "we got screwed". I know I am in the minority, but leave the system alone. Every year it works itself out and will again this year when Alabama plays Oregon for the NC. I don't see 4 teams going undefeated. Schedules just look too tough. Certainly possible though, but I wouldn't bet on it. That said...I've come to accept college football for what it is. It's all about money. They have no interest in crowning a true national champion. They never were. The fact is, there is no such thing as a NCAA college football national championship for division I. Why not...because having 30+ bowl games makes more money than a playoff system like college basketball, baseball, or any other NCAA sport that has a true national championship. The BCS system now is not meant to be perfect. It's meant to make money. It does a good job of that, and it's still a better way to crown a "pretend" national champion than before we had the BCS. The 4 team playoff in the future will be better...but bottom line is that it's still about money...and it's still not a real national championship.
Every time you say that, we point out instances where you are mistaken and you don't reply. 2003 USC - AP national champion 2008 Utah - whipped Alabama in the Sugar bowl and finished as the only undefeated team.
Just off the top of my head. They destroyed Alabama, I'm not sure what you mean. Florida was the Champ that year. I can't say for sure Utah would win, but I can say that I don't believe Florida was the undisputed champ after watching Utah race out to a 21-0 1st quarter lead against Alabama. This is why the new playoff system is necessary. |
| 2012-11-01 5:17 PM in reply to: #4478930 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top I know I'm all confused, so here's a list of the BCS Champs: BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
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| 2012-11-01 5:18 PM in reply to: #4478930 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top ^^^^^ After losing to Florida in the SEC championship game I think the last place Alabama was ready for was a bowl game against a team like Utah. Not making excuses, but emotions played a lot in that game on both sides. |
| 2012-11-01 5:20 PM in reply to: #4479514 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 4:17 PM I know I'm all confused, so here's a list of the BCS Champs: BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Sorry, my years are referencing the year the title game was played. |
| 2012-11-01 5:20 PM in reply to: #4479514 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 6:17 PM I know I'm all confused, so here's a list of the BCS Champs: BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Do you really have to remind me of 2007 and 2008? I was at the 2007 game and thought after the opening kickoff the Buckeyes were gonna roll. Well not so much! And then in 2008 it was men against boys. |
| 2012-11-01 5:26 PM in reply to: #4479516 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:18 PM ^^^^^ After losing to Florida in the SEC championship game I think the last place Alabama was ready for was a bowl game against a team like Utah. Not making excuses, but emotions played a lot in that game on both sides. I know, personally I think waiting so long between the regular season and the bowl games skews the results significantly. I think all of the BSC games might have played out differently if they occurred in mid December. |
| 2012-11-01 5:28 PM in reply to: #4479531 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:26 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:18 PM ^^^^^ After losing to Florida in the SEC championship game I think the last place Alabama was ready for was a bowl game against a team like Utah. Not making excuses, but emotions played a lot in that game on both sides. I know, personally I think waiting so long between the regular season and the bowl games skews the results significantly. I think all of the BSC games might have played out differently if they occurred in mid December. I agree. |
| 2012-11-01 5:41 PM in reply to: #4479531 |
Veteran 928 Columbus, Ohio | Subject: RE: NCAA Football getting crowded at the top JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:26 PM jacasa - 2012-11-01 4:18 PM ^^^^^ After losing to Florida in the SEC championship game I think the last place Alabama was ready for was a bowl game against a team like Utah. Not making excuses, but emotions played a lot in that game on both sides. I know, personally I think waiting so long between the regular season and the bowl games skews the results significantly. I think all of the BSC games might have played out differently if they occurred in mid December. Totally agree! |
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