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2013-02-19 9:04 PM
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Our lawyer at my company took her family on the Triumph last August. She said it was bad enough without the lack of sanitation and lack of a/c so it must've really stunk. Oh and by the way...Air Force is less a military force than the crew of the Triumph...


2013-02-20 8:15 AM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2013-02-19 7:27 PM I saw an interview with a woman who was a passenger on the ship. She said (and I wish I was making this up) that the experience was "worse than 9/11, because at least when the buildings collapsed, if you were outside, you could run away from them", unlike the passengers, who were stuck on the ship. She went on to say that she viewed the $500 offered to everyone in her family ( in addition to the full refund, the paid-for flight home and the voucher for a free cruise in the future) as, "a slap in the face". And, you guessed it, she's suing Carnival Cruise Lines.

Let's see...there's a fire, on a cruise ship, in the middle of the ocean and you're ALIVE.  I know the conditions were horrible, but it could have been worse. 

2013-02-20 8:22 AM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2013-02-19 8:27 PM I saw an interview with a woman who was a passenger on the ship. She said (and I wish I was making this up) that the experience was "worse than 9/11, because at least when the buildings collapsed, if you were outside, you could run away from them", unlike the passengers, who were stuck on the ship. She went on to say that she viewed the $500 offered to everyone in her family ( in addition to the full refund, the paid-for flight home and the voucher for a free cruise in the future) as, "a slap in the face". And, you guessed it, she's suing Carnival Cruise Lines.

worse than 9/11?  i hate people.  i would bet that anyone that was in the world trade center that day would gladly have lived through this cruise rather than those attacks.

2013-02-20 12:55 PM
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mehaner - 2013-02-20 8:22 AM

jmk-brooklyn - 2013-02-19 8:27 PM I saw an interview with a woman who was a passenger on the ship. She said (and I wish I was making this up) that the experience was "worse than 9/11, because at least when the buildings collapsed, if you were outside, you could run away from them", unlike the passengers, who were stuck on the ship. She went on to say that she viewed the $500 offered to everyone in her family ( in addition to the full refund, the paid-for flight home and the voucher for a free cruise in the future) as, "a slap in the face". And, you guessed it, she's suing Carnival Cruise Lines.

worse than 9/11?  i hate people.  i would bet that anyone that was in the world trade center that day would gladly have lived through this cruise rather than those attacks.

I'm so glad I am not the only person that thinks people are jerks for suing the cruise line.  Now, if the cruise line was found to have done something negligent...like they didn't repair the engine right and it caught fire...okay, maybe I can see suing.  HOWEVER, I don't think that is the case here.  Sometimes even properly maintained engines catch on fire.  It's like when your flights are delayed for weather...everyone gets mad at the airline but it isn't the airline's fault and they don't owe you anything.  Now, you are bumped off your flight because they overbooked?  Yes...they owe you. 

I think what bugs me is that situations like this always bring out the worst in human nature when they SHOULD bring out the best.  You pretty much had a group of people in a survival situation and they act like a bunch of whiny b*tches instead of working together to make the best of a less-than-desirable situation.

I think full refunds, flights home, voucher for a future cruise, etc....all the things Carnival has already offered should be more than enough compensation.

However, I do find myself wondering why they couldn't somehow get another ship over there and transfer passengers.  With all the cruise ships in the Caribbean why on earth couldn't someone else have pulled up and unloaded passengers?

2013-02-20 1:03 PM
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jldicarlo - 2013-02-20 1:55 PM
mehaner - 2013-02-20 8:22 AM

jmk-brooklyn - 2013-02-19 8:27 PM I saw an interview with a woman who was a passenger on the ship. She said (and I wish I was making this up) that the experience was "worse than 9/11, because at least when the buildings collapsed, if you were outside, you could run away from them", unlike the passengers, who were stuck on the ship. She went on to say that she viewed the $500 offered to everyone in her family ( in addition to the full refund, the paid-for flight home and the voucher for a free cruise in the future) as, "a slap in the face". And, you guessed it, she's suing Carnival Cruise Lines.

worse than 9/11?  i hate people.  i would bet that anyone that was in the world trade center that day would gladly have lived through this cruise rather than those attacks.

I'm so glad I am not the only person that thinks people are jerks for suing the cruise line.  Now, if the cruise line was found to have done something negligent...like they didn't repair the engine right and it caught fire...okay, maybe I can see suing.  HOWEVER, I don't think that is the case here.  Sometimes even properly maintained engines catch on fire.  It's like when your flights are delayed for weather...everyone gets mad at the airline but it isn't the airline's fault and they don't owe you anything.  Now, you are bumped off your flight because they overbooked?  Yes...they owe you. 

I think what bugs me is that situations like this always bring out the worst in human nature when they SHOULD bring out the best.  You pretty much had a group of people in a survival situation and they act like a bunch of whiny b*tches instead of working together to make the best of a less-than-desirable situation.

I think full refunds, flights home, voucher for a future cruise, etc....all the things Carnival has already offered should be more than enough compensation.

However, I do find myself wondering why they couldn't somehow get another ship over there and transfer passengers.  With all the cruise ships in the Caribbean why on earth couldn't someone else have pulled up and unloaded passengers?

Because of the number of people and it being dangerous to transfer passengers between ships at sea.

There was a serious fire at sea. The crew performed admirably. Nobody died. Nobody was seriously injured. Nobody got sick.

Somebody should slap tell that woman that if missing the midnight buffet is the worst thing to happen in her life, she should count her blessings. 2,977 people who perished on 9/11 weren't so fortunate.

2013-02-20 1:29 PM
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-20 1:03 PM
jldicarlo - 2013-02-20 1:55 PM
mehaner - 2013-02-20 8:22 AM

jmk-brooklyn - 2013-02-19 8:27 PM I saw an interview with a woman who was a passenger on the ship. She said (and I wish I was making this up) that the experience was "worse than 9/11, because at least when the buildings collapsed, if you were outside, you could run away from them", unlike the passengers, who were stuck on the ship. She went on to say that she viewed the $500 offered to everyone in her family ( in addition to the full refund, the paid-for flight home and the voucher for a free cruise in the future) as, "a slap in the face". And, you guessed it, she's suing Carnival Cruise Lines.

worse than 9/11?  i hate people.  i would bet that anyone that was in the world trade center that day would gladly have lived through this cruise rather than those attacks.

I'm so glad I am not the only person that thinks people are jerks for suing the cruise line.  Now, if the cruise line was found to have done something negligent...like they didn't repair the engine right and it caught fire...okay, maybe I can see suing.  HOWEVER, I don't think that is the case here.  Sometimes even properly maintained engines catch on fire.  It's like when your flights are delayed for weather...everyone gets mad at the airline but it isn't the airline's fault and they don't owe you anything.  Now, you are bumped off your flight because they overbooked?  Yes...they owe you. 

I think what bugs me is that situations like this always bring out the worst in human nature when they SHOULD bring out the best.  You pretty much had a group of people in a survival situation and they act like a bunch of whiny b*tches instead of working together to make the best of a less-than-desirable situation.

I think full refunds, flights home, voucher for a future cruise, etc....all the things Carnival has already offered should be more than enough compensation.

However, I do find myself wondering why they couldn't somehow get another ship over there and transfer passengers.  With all the cruise ships in the Caribbean why on earth couldn't someone else have pulled up and unloaded passengers?

Because of the number of people and it being dangerous to transfer passengers between ships at sea.

There was a serious fire at sea. The crew performed admirably. Nobody died. Nobody was seriously injured. Nobody got sick.

Somebody should slap tell that woman that if missing the midnight buffet is the worst thing to happen in her life, she should count her blessings. 2,977 people who perished on 9/11 weren't so fortunate.

Exactly.



2013-02-20 5:21 PM
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I'm actually loving the coverage - one of my very good friends from college has been on several TV spots and interviews explaining what happened as he was an officer on board the ship quite some time ago.

He's also written a book about his experience on board (shameless plug - "The Truth About Cruise Ships", Jay Herring) that has given him some exposure to the interviews.

It's great to see him on the air and doing such a great job.

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2013-02-20 6:37 PM
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-20 2:03 PM

jldicarlo - 2013-02-20 1:55 PM
mehaner - 2013-02-20 8:22 AM

jmk-brooklyn - 2013-02-19 8:27 PM I saw an interview with a woman who was a passenger on the ship. She said (and I wish I was making this up) that the experience was "worse than 9/11, because at least when the buildings collapsed, if you were outside, you could run away from them", unlike the passengers, who were stuck on the ship. She went on to say that she viewed the $500 offered to everyone in her family ( in addition to the full refund, the paid-for flight home and the voucher for a free cruise in the future) as, "a slap in the face". And, you guessed it, she's suing Carnival Cruise Lines.

worse than 9/11?  i hate people.  i would bet that anyone that was in the world trade center that day would gladly have lived through this cruise rather than those attacks.

I'm so glad I am not the only person that thinks people are jerks for suing the cruise line.  Now, if the cruise line was found to have done something negligent...like they didn't repair the engine right and it caught fire...okay, maybe I can see suing.  HOWEVER, I don't think that is the case here.  Sometimes even properly maintained engines catch on fire.  It's like when your flights are delayed for weather...everyone gets mad at the airline but it isn't the airline's fault and they don't owe you anything.  Now, you are bumped off your flight because they overbooked?  Yes...they owe you. 

I think what bugs me is that situations like this always bring out the worst in human nature when they SHOULD bring out the best.  You pretty much had a group of people in a survival situation and they act like a bunch of whiny b*tches instead of working together to make the best of a less-than-desirable situation.

I think full refunds, flights home, voucher for a future cruise, etc....all the things Carnival has already offered should be more than enough compensation.

However, I do find myself wondering why they couldn't somehow get another ship over there and transfer passengers.  With all the cruise ships in the Caribbean why on earth couldn't someone else have pulled up and unloaded passengers?

Because of the number of people and it being dangerous to transfer passengers between ships at sea.

There was a serious fire at sea. The crew performed admirably. Nobody died. Nobody was seriously injured. Nobody got sick.

Somebody should slap tell that woman that if missing the midnight buffet is the worst thing to happen in her life, she should count her blessings. 2,977 people who perished on 9/11 weren't so fortunate.



Tell that to Ann Coulter. I'm sure she feels these cruise victims arent living the high life off their tragedy.
2013-02-23 9:07 PM
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twomarks - 2013-02-20 6:21 PM

I'm actually loving the coverage - one of my very good friends from college has been on several TV spots and interviews explaining what happened as he was an officer on board the ship quite some time ago.

He's also written a book about his experience on board (shameless plug - "The Truth About Cruise Ships", Jay Herring) that has given him some exposure to the interviews.

It's great to see him on the air and doing such a great job.

twomarks

I read that book a year or two ago. I really enjoyed it! I love non fiction though.. lol

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