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2007-03-18 6:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
I live in the PNW where skin cancer isn't a huge problem, but I still wear sunscreen everyday. Even if the weather is cloudy and overcast, I still wear a minimum of 15. I'd rather wear sunscreen, a proven defense against skin cancer, than not wear it because the chemicals may or may not cause cancer. Besides...I'm slightly vain...I don't want premature wrinkles.


2007-03-18 8:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
I am getting the distinct impression that most people are wearing sunscreen.  Raging, I hope you don't think people are picking on you.  Most of the people I have found on here seem pretty smart and if there was a big chemical scare on sunscreen I feel someone else here would have found it.  This probably falls into the same category as the ones that say our running is going to leave us all cripples.
2007-03-18 10:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
I think it's the DHMO ingredient in sunscreen that is thought to cause cancer. There's a lot of factual information about it here.

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
2007-03-18 11:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
Neutrogena makes an awesome sunscreen! It sprays on, its totally non-greasy, and it only takes a second to put on, not a pain at all! I think if you look hard enough you can find some study somewhere that will tell you that just about anything can cause cancer!
2007-03-19 1:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
I bought a sunscreen without chemicals. Titanium dioxide and zinc oxide are much better sunblocks anyway

Thank you

I think it's the DHMO ingredient in sunscreen that is thought to cause cancer. There's a lot of factual information about it here.

And thank you.


I look at it this way; many things that are harmful have been considered to be good for you in the past like dht and hydrogenized fat, only to find out that they are deadly. I realize the internet is full of good info and a lot of bs.

Edited by ragingferret 2007-03-19 1:21 AM
2007-03-19 1:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
I should have put my entire previous post in the font...


2007-03-19 7:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen

Oh my.  DHMO? 

This isn't analogous to food intake.  Excessive UV radiation is a KNOWN cause of skin cancer.  That's not debatable.  Skin cancer is very prevalant.  That's not debatable.  Sunscreen and preventing burns lowers skin cancer rates.  There's no reliable evidence out there that sunscreen is in any way harmful to you. 

And when was hydrogenized fat ever good for you?

ragingferret - 2007-03-19 1:16 AM
I bought a sunscreen without chemicals. Titanium dioxide and zinc oxide are much better sunblocks anyway
Thank you
I think it's the DHMO ingredient in sunscreen that is thought to cause cancer. There's a lot of factual information about it here.
And thank you. I look at it this way; many things that are harmful have been considered to be good for you in the past like dht and hydrogenized fat, only to find out that they are deadly. I realize the internet is full of good info and a lot of bs.

2007-03-19 11:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
When hydrogenized fat first came out, it was touted as the healthy alternative to saturated fat. So people used margerine instead of butter. It has only been in the past decade or so that we realized that it's not healthy, and that is why you see the current backlash against trans fat. :P

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2007-03-19 12:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen

Margarine was touted as a healthy alternative.  Nobody isolated hydrogenated oils as being healthy.

We're on an entirely different topic now.

ragingferret - 2007-03-19 11:49 AM When hydrogenized fat first came out, it was touted as the healthy alternative to saturated fat. So people used margerine instead of butter. It has only been in the past decade or so that we realized that it's not healthy, and that is why you see the current backlash against trans fat. :P

2007-03-19 12:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
I should be more accepting of this, I'm normally more crunchy. So here's my logic...

If hydrogenated oils = sunscreen
and saturated fat = no sunscreen
then I wanna use the mono/poly unsaturated fat - so what's that?
2007-03-19 12:52 PM
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pescalita - 2007-03-19 11:46 AM

I should be more accepting of this, I'm normally more crunchy. So here's my logic...

If hydrogenated oils = sunscreen
and saturated fat = no sunscreen
then I wanna use the mono/poly unsaturated fat - so what's that?


Do not pass go, do not collect $200. your step 1 logic is wrong. My sarcastic post regarding DHMO being the cancer causing agent in sunscreen...Di-hydrogen Monoxide = H2O = Water.

The DHMO website provides a great example of how information can be misconstrued and mis-interpreted, even if the factual information is correct, the causative assumptions are wildly wrong.

Use sunscreen.


2007-03-19 1:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
We had a dermatologist come talk to our running group last year. It inspired me to pay him a visit. I am one of the people that religiously used sunscreen for a LONG time ... but when PABA sunscreens came out, I had a problem. I didn't link it to the sunscreen ... I just figured I was spending an unusually large amount of time in the sun ... but I kept getting burned. Turns out, with my chemistry, PABA worked like an accelerant rather than a sunscreen. Now, years later, I've got regular 6 month checkups with the dermatologist set up to do "spot" checks and early treatment of precancerous lesions. He started me last year on the new heliotropic sunscreens which seem to work well for me. Nutrogena has a nice mist product that goes on easily and provides decent coverage of the body parts I can't always reach. Otherwise, Bullfrog products are great and really seem to last.

I'd much rather bother with sunscreen than with having a dozen plague-looking boils and sores every six months from having stuff frozen off of me.

2007-03-19 1:12 PM
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AdventureBear - 2007-03-19 12:52 PM

pescalita - 2007-03-19 11:46 AM

I should be more accepting of this, I'm normally more crunchy. So here's my logic...

If hydrogenated oils = sunscreen
and saturated fat = no sunscreen
then I wanna use the mono/poly unsaturated fat - so what's that?


Do not pass go, do not collect $200. your step 1 logic is wrong. My sarcastic post regarding DHMO being the cancer causing agent in sunscreen...Di-hydrogen Monoxide = H2O = Water.

The DHMO website provides a great example of how information can be misconstrued and mis-interpreted, even if the factual information is correct, the causative assumptions are wildly wrong.

Use sunscreen.


Phew! I was worried you meant that seriously and I was thinking there's isn't enough time in the day to explain this - and AdventureBear always seems so smart...
2007-03-19 2:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
OMG!!! My jergens has DHMO in it and I let my kids go swimming in the pool and it too contains DHMO.
2007-03-19 4:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen
AdventureBear - 2007-03-19 10:52 AM

pescalita - 2007-03-19 11:46 AM

I should be more accepting of this, I'm normally more crunchy. So here's my logic...

If hydrogenated oils = sunscreen
and saturated fat = no sunscreen
then I wanna use the mono/poly unsaturated fat - so what's that?


Do not pass go, do not collect $200. your step 1 logic is wrong. My sarcastic post regarding DHMO being the cancer causing agent in sunscreen...Di-hydrogen Monoxide = H2O = Water.

The DHMO website provides a great example of how information can be misconstrued and mis-interpreted, even if the factual information is correct, the causative assumptions are wildly wrong.

Use sunscreen.


Doh! That's what I get for not actually opening the link. But thanks for reinforcing my original point, that one study can prove just about anything.
2007-03-19 4:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Your opinion on sunscreen

lookit my avatar or the bigger pic in my album.  I don't want one of those again! they hurt!

I've had basal cell removed from my nose.  great, now I got a funky nose.  I *heart* sunscreen.

 



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