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2008-01-04 4:55 PM
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Chem:  I figure your BMI at about 28.1 (we have to lower that)

IDEAL WEIGHT:   104-137.  Good pick on the 135.  130 would give you some wiggle room.  Yes you will be there this year.

You should be training about the same pace as Gem & me as far as that goes.

Endurance Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Recovery Jogs 14:10 to 14:40 8:48 to 9:07
Long Runs 13:10 to 14:10 8:11 to 8:48
Easy Runs 13:10 to 13:40 8:11 to 8:30
Stamina Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Steady-State Runs   12:00 to 12:21 7:28 to 7:41
Tempo Runs   11:30 to 12:00 7:09 to 7:28
Tempo Intervals   11:21 to 11:45 7:03 to 7:18

Time/Interval  
Cruise Intervals (mile) 11:16 to 11:30  
(1200m) 8:24 to 8:35  
(1000m) 7:00 to 7:09  
(800m) 5:36 to 5:43  
(600m) 4:12 to 4:17  
(400m) 2:48 to 2:52


2008-01-04 6:52 PM
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WT: 154

age: 34

Best mile run time so far: 12: 01 mins

Best bike speed so far: I'll keep you posted

Next.first event type: 5k: Carrera de las Estrellas, Saturday January 13
First Tri: Las Vegas Triathlon Sprint
2008-01-04 6:59 PM
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Chem!
I was thinking to do the IronGirl @ Vegas, but I guess for me it's too soon to go for it. Maybe next year.
Go girl, go!
For the pounds... let's melt them too!!



Edited by GoForAll2008 2008-01-04 7:01 PM
2008-01-04 7:27 PM
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Goforall:  Why do you think the Irongirl is too soon?  Just cruise thru it for the experience.
2008-01-04 8:25 PM
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Go forall: You and Gem are almost identical.

BMI: 28.2  Should be 25.0 or less

Ideal Weight:  104-137

Pace Chart:

Endurance Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Recovery Jogs 16:28 to 16:58 10:14 to 10:33
Long Runs 15:28 to 16:28 9:37 to 10:14
Easy Runs 15:28 to 15:58 9:37 to 9:56
Stamina Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Steady-State Runs   14:11 to 14:36 8:49 to 9:04
Tempo Runs   13:36 to 14:11 8:27 to 8:49
Tempo Intervals   13:25 to 13:53 8:20 to 8:37

Time/Interval  
Cruise Intervals (mile) 13:19 to 13:36  
(1200m) 9:55 to 10:08  
(1000m) 8:16 to 8:27  
(800m) 6:37 to 6:46  
(600m) 4:58 to 5:04  
(400m) 3:18 to 3:23
2008-01-04 8:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Saling4's Group - Open
Hi Brian,
I'd like to join your group, if I may.

I'd like to join this group because it looks like people have a variety of goals and the general feel is that we all want to encourage one another in what we are doing. I also like that we have people from all over in this group! How great is the information age??

I have never run a triathlon - I used to sign up for 5 and 10 km runs, but have not been doing much of that lately. My swimming is ok, but I've signed up for a swim class to improve my stroke and endurance. In terms of biking, I did my last two vacations on bicycle. The first trip was 450km done over 5 days (we could have gone faster, but it rained for three days and we got tired of it and threw in the towel early). The second was 320km done over three and a half days. These trips may not be best for determining my biking time as I was carrying a lot of gear on my bike, but I've never raced on bicycle, so that's what I've got for now.

For details about me, I work at a desk all day with a computer so I need regular exercise to offset the long hours sitting. I live in Toronto, Canada, which doesn't get too much snow and cold weather as far as Canadian cities go, but we get some and sometimes the weather can discourage me from getting out. I am currently looking to buy a pair of those shoe grips that clamp onto the soles and add picks to your shoes so you can walk/run on ice and snow without falling down. Otherwise, I'll only likely get out running during a thaw, until winter's done. I don't care much for running on a treadmill, but if you recommend it, I can give it a try.

Here are the other details:
Age: 29 (female)
Height: 5'5 - 5'6
Weight: 135 lbs last time I checked (which was a few months ago)
Best time running (in 1999) 9:53/mile
I'm still looking around to sign up for races, so none officially on the horizon right yet. My big goal is to do a sprint triathlon in 2008; I might sign up for other races (like a 5km) for practice and training.

That's it. Thanks for being a mentor - I think this is a great idea to have this forum. I look forward to being a part of this group!

Cat



2008-01-04 9:28 PM
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Welcome Cat,  Look forward to working with you.  Your weight is about perfect so not much to worry there.  Now a pace chart:  I put you a little slower than you were in '99.

Endurance Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Recovery Jogs 15:42 to 16:12 9:45 to 10:04
Long Runs 14:42 to 15:42 9:08 to 9:45
Easy Runs 14:42 to 15:12 9:08 to 9:27
Stamina Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Steady-State Runs   13:27 to 13:51 8:22 to 8:36
Tempo Runs   12:54 to 13:27 8:01 to 8:22
Tempo Intervals   12:43 to 13:10 7:54 to 8:11

Time/Interval  
Cruise Intervals (mile) 12:37 to 12:54  
(1200m) 9:25 to 9:37  
(1000m) 7:51 to 8:01  
(800m) 6:16 to 6:25  
(600m) 4:42 to 4:48  
(400m) 3:08 to 3:12

These are set up to keep you from hurting yourself and work back into running. 

2008-01-04 10:36 PM
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Goforit2008
That would be awesome if you did Iron Girl. We seem at about the same stats so we could sloth through it together. I'm pretty much stating from scratch right now, except for the 5K I slowly ran in December. Although I thought you lived in Spain; how are you going to swing coming to Vegas 2x in a year? (Sry I'm just curious.) Lucky you
-Chem

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2008-01-04 10:47 PM
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Here is my data:

Height: 5'11'' (178 cm)

Weight: 166 (75 Kg)

Age: 46

Sex: Male

I used to run in highschool, but did basically nothing for 22 years. Started jogging 2 years ago. In 2007 I did two sprint triathlons, and I love it.

My goals for 2008 are: at least 2 sprints and one olympic. I started biking 1 1/2 years ago. That is my weakest sport.

In terms of each sport:
1. To improve on the bike a lot (improve speed, improve endurance)
2. To improve somewhat on the swimming (would like to improve speed).
Running can stay the way it is for the time being.

I think your idea of consistent baby steps is the way to go. I have had knee and hip injuries, and I definitely do NOT want to be there again.

Thanks for letting me on board,

Helmuth

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2008-01-04 11:15 PM
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I forgot to ask: why the name (Sailing4)? I love sailing, mostly small boats (dinghy, sunfish, laser,...).
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2008-01-04 11:31 PM
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Haven't been actually sailing in years, but my name is saling so it works and I am the 4th of 6 kids.  Truly creative, huh?  Mom needed some way to keep track of us....LOL.


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2008-01-05 11:32 AM
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Decided to follow my own advice on pacing. Worked out well even though it was hard to keep it s-l-o-o-w, but I WILL follow my own advice.

 

By the way if you haven't looked at my logs feel free to see what a masochist I can be at times. 



Edited by saling4 2008-01-05 11:33 AM
2008-01-05 7:35 PM
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Wow am I excited for this! I am a 36 y/o mother of 3. 8 y/o boy 6 y/o boy and 4 y/o girl. I will start with info about me and my backstory and then fill you in on the stats.

I was very active in competitive sports in H.S. State 3 years in track. Lettered in Varsity Basketball 3 years. All region 2 years and multiple MVP awards at tournaments. I LOVED sports.

I went to Brigham Young University and continued intramural sports didn't feel confident enough to try the sports there with over 30,000 students and a Div. I school I was intimidated to say the least. I did continue in the sports "arena" as I worked in the Sports Information office at the University during my Sophmore and Junior years.

I entered the Sports Medicine program and graduated in 1997. I continued to work in the Physical Therapy clinic and also spent a summer as an athletic trainer for H.S. camps at Gonzaga University.

Then our family started to take priority. I will skip to this June. Our family went to a reunion with our extended family and one of the activities most of us cousins chose was rockclimbing and repelling a 50 foot rock wall. I was so excited to do this and got to within one hand hold of the top and just couldn't make it. I was so disappointed. I knew it had to do with being 70 pounds overweight, but I had never let my weight stop me from doing ANYTHING!!!

The next day I went for a hike with my "fit" cousins again and they wanted to run the trail. Again I didn't let my weight stop me. I ran (and walked) up to the falls. About an hour later I went back to the climbing wall and BEAT IT!!! I laid on the top of the platform and just cried. I felt so AWESOME!!! I then did a ropes course up in the tree tops and repelled down.

When I got down my husbanc who had been filming all of this, took me in his arms and said "I don't know what that was but you have GOT to figure out how to do that again. You need to find somethinig that will make you feel like that more because I have never seen that determination in you before."

Well about 3 weeks later I heard someone mention doing a sprint triathlon about 20 miles from our home. I thought why not? I just climbed a rock wall and I can do anything now. I went to the gym the next day and got a membership. I started training. I have tried to workout before but I HATE working out. But this was different I was TRAINING!!!! I had 8 weeks! yep in 8 weeks I went from the couch to the sprint tri. I had a 3 friends doing it with me (there 1st too) and 4 others who were veterans. We trained a little together maybe 3 weeks 2 times a week. It was fun, but I was in it for me no matter who was competing.

In 8 weeks I lost 27 pounds and finished the tri in 1:50:07. 1/4 swim, 14 m bike and 3.5 run. It was brutal and I loved it. The triathon was in August and I have continued to train until December. I have lost another 5 pounds but am looking to follow a REAL program this time not just "winging it".

My goals...April 20 mi Tulip Festival Bike
May 30 mi. San Juan Island Bike race
June Danskin sprint tri
July Lake Chelan sprint tri
Aug/Sept Sprint tri (possible Olympic not sure yet)
Nov. Turkey Trot 10K
I would like my weight to be 170lbs. I am in excellent health low BP, low cholesterol just need to lose weight.

My stats:
36 y/o
Female
5'10
212
BMI 30 (just had it checked today)
% Body Fat 33


best mile 13:30
dont' know my best mph bike I can do 15 miles in 45 minutes...but that was 15 miles!
don't know swim info

I can get my best bike mile info Monday and I can get my splits from the race if you need them.

Also I don't have a HR monitor yet but am planning on purchasing one in the next couple of weeks. Will let you know, until then I am using PFE.

So there I am and I am ready to GO!!!

Thanks tons Brian I am so excited to be in your group you are exactly what I need!!

2008-01-05 9:34 PM
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Hi kimlogin,
Thanks for your great story with all the motivating details! It's so inspirational to read people's goals and breakthroughs!

Brian - thanks for the details on my running times. I have to do more reading before I understand what all those different times are for. Got to the store today to get my winter gear. Now, I'm toasty and dry while outside. Can't wait to go for my run tomorrow morning!

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2008-01-05 11:12 PM
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Well Kim it looks like you are well on your way for doing great things.  As you said losing some weight and you will fly thru the Tri's.  Your bike is about 20 mph,  faster than I am for sure.  Your basic run chart is as follows:

Endurance Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Recovery Jogs 18:55 to 19:25 11:45 to 12:04
Long Runs 17:55 to 18:55 11:08 to 11:45
Easy Runs 17:55 to 18:25 11:08 to 11:27
Stamina Workouts Pace/Mile Pace/K
Steady-State Runs   16:31 to 17:00 10:16 to 10:34
Tempo Runs   15:50 to 16:31 9:50 to 10:16
Tempo Intervals   15:37 to 16:09 9:42 to 10:02

 

2008-01-05 11:25 PM
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60-75
Endurance Workouts
These workouts are to increase your distance at a comfortable pace 60-75% HR


Recovery Jogs

Long Runs

Easy Runs

 

 

Stamina Workouts
These work outs are to be a little faster(higher HR)
83-92%

Steady-State Runs  

Tempo Runs  

Tempo Intervals

 

We want most of our runs in the Endurance work outs.  I promise if you stay slow you will get faster. 



2008-01-05 11:47 PM
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Hi Brian, is it too late to join your group?

I've had real motivation issues over the last couple of months, due to getting sick, and difficulty connecting with my coach over here.

I've now opted for a programme that has me out on my own a bit more. I'd really love to be part of a group of people who are working and staying in touch. Training can be a lonely business, even when you live in a town that is sports-mad.

I'll wait for a response from you before I send you all my info!

Thanks so much,

Jacqui

2008-01-06 12:10 AM
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Be glad to have you aboard.  Looks like we have some great people.  I look forward to seeing your progress.

 

Brian 

2008-01-06 9:34 AM
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Hi - Can I join in?

I'm 41, live in Colorado Springs, 2 kids (1.5 & 5), stay at home mom (right...)
Lots of endurance sports background, marathons & ultras, but quite frankly I'm sick of all that long distance running. I enjoy the challenge of training up for something but it's hard to work around the kids sometimes. Gotten better at that now that the older one is in kindergarten - can get lots of gym time in, anyway.

Strengths: Like to work out, strong legs, no injuries, supportive husband, good bike, pools available, lots of cute running skirts, like to bike, lots of endurance experience

Weaknesses: Like to eat and sleep, 10 extra lbs of really extra fat (5'7", 155, lots of muscles - BMI isn't a good measurement for me), busy schedule, weak swimmer, not good at keeping a log, don't have a plan

2008 races: RnR marathon next weekend (baaaad training - I'll survive and my fallback plan is to find some fun people to hang out with for 26 miles of bands), SilverRush 50 MTB race, 24 Hours of Triathlon (team) labor day weekend, DipNDash (swim/run) training series this summer, 1 or 2 springs, not selected yet. I'd say my 'A' races are the 24 Hour team (4 ladies - figuring almost a 1/2 IM for each of us w/in 24 hours), and the MTB race (50 miles in the mountains - summer).

I like to have fun when I race and push myself, but when things go bust I just like to finish. On bad days I've made friends with the back of the pack

Accountability helps.

I did my first tri's last year. A sprint (Tri for the Cure) and on an 8 hour relay team. My bike legs were always great, slow swim, mid pack runner usually, but getting slower.

Hope to join your group!

I'll check back in later - do you need more details?
Kids are waking up


2008-01-06 11:28 AM
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Helen,  Sounds more like we can use you more than you can use me.  What a monster...  Your more than welcome to join this little tribe.  I agree that BMI and a few other things that get used are not always the best.  They just give us something to use until we have a better understanding of what is going on within us.

One thing in my weight loss group that I stress is that weight itself is not always a good measure.  If you replace 1 lb of fat with 1 lb of muscle you didn't lose weight,  but you will look and feel better.  I like to have them tell me how their clothes fit,  if looser than you are doing better.

 

Again,  Welcome aboard the train to insanity. 

2008-01-06 11:48 AM
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Gang,  I have close the group at 10.  If any one quits I will reopen or if you have a friend that would like to join let me know.

Time to get busy. 



2008-01-06 12:08 PM
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Okay, here are the details:

I'm 35, female, live in Taupo, NZ, did my first triathlon, a mini-sprint, in September 2006 in England, where I was living at the time. I decided after completing the little tri that the Ironman was the natural next step! So, when I got back to NZ I joined up with Endurance Coach and got into the training.

An ear infection led to a blocked eustacian tube in late August, and I have been struggling with that ever since. I am looking at having a grommet put in, but will have to see how that pans out when I see the specialist at the end of this month. This has impacted on my swimming severely.

I am generally pretty motivated but struggle if things go wrong for a few days, like I have to miss training or I get an injury. I'm currently training for an off-road half marathon on 16 March. My training for that is going really well at the moment.

I'm 5'7", about 175lb, could do with dropping some of that, but I'm fairly stocky, so will never get to be a skinny, svelte number, more's the pity!

I'm Head of Maths at a secondary school and I'm blessed with really supportive colleagues and students who all cheer me on when they see me out running or biking. I also have a really supportive partner, David, who is good for encouragement when I need it from another source. He's an excellent road cyclist and mountainbiker, so I follow him around a bit!

I'm looking forward to participating with this group; it's great to have people to keep in touch with and explain myself to if my training gets wobbly!

Jac



Edited by mathsgeek 2008-01-06 12:17 PM
2008-01-06 12:13 PM
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Hello, I would like to join your group. I have been running and working out for 6-7 years. I initially lost about 60 pounds. I am 51 and did a TRYatholn this past summer. I have ran a couple 5K's and one half marathon. I work out and run on my own. It has been hard to stay motivated. I think this group would be very beneficial for me.
2008-01-06 12:50 PM
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Okay 1 more because your name is so cute.  Need to make your logs open to view or add me to your friends so I can see what is going on. 

Now on to training....yipppeeee!!! 

2008-01-06 12:53 PM
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Mathsgeek:  You might check into Duathlon's in your area.  Keeps you biking and running, but no swim.  Most are 5K/20K/5K or there abouts.
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