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 2010-02-09 2:59 PM in reply to: #2662764 |
Expert  799    Waukesha, WI |  Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closedjgerbodegrant - 2010-02-09 6:29 AM For all of you runners: I have been switching to forefoot running for the past three or four runs. This was mostly because my new orthodics were trashing my arches and I couldn't put pressure on them or they would crack and bleed. I have really enjoyed it. I sort of worked my way up in terms of time. The first day I did about 20 minutes, then 35, then 50 etc. My run on Sunday was 1:15 and felt just fine, but my calves are quite sore right in the middle where your achillies attaches to the muscle. It's not all the time, just when I flex them, so it's not injured, just sore. I have a 40 minute tempo run today that I am thinking about not doing because I don't want to overdo it. Any suggestions? I'm trying to "listen to my body." But it's not speaking the same language right now, so it's tough. I would not do it...I am all for forefoot running because I am pretty much at the extreme when it comes to toe running but I would work on some calf/achillles strenghting exercies before you decide to forefoot run all runs. Lots of stretching too. Did you switch to a different type of shoe or same shoe and same orthodics? I am curious because I made a shoe switch in November that really helped my running. |
| 2010-02-09 9:06 PM in reply to: #2664050 |
Pro 3804  Seacoast, NH! | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed lrunfit - 2010-02-09 3:59 PM jgerbodegrant - 2010-02-09 6:29 AM For all of you runners: I have been switching to forefoot running for the past three or four runs. This was mostly because my new orthodics were trashing my arches and I couldn't put pressure on them or they would crack and bleed. I have really enjoyed it. I sort of worked my way up in terms of time. The first day I did about 20 minutes, then 35, then 50 etc. My run on Sunday was 1:15 and felt just fine, but my calves are quite sore right in the middle where your achillies attaches to the muscle. It's not all the time, just when I flex them, so it's not injured, just sore. I have a 40 minute tempo run today that I am thinking about not doing because I don't want to overdo it. Any suggestions? I'm trying to "listen to my body." But it's not speaking the same language right now, so it's tough. I would not do it...I am all for forefoot running because I am pretty much at the extreme when it comes to toe running but I would work on some calf/achillles strenghting exercies before you decide to forefoot run all runs. Lots of stretching too. Did you switch to a different type of shoe or same shoe and same orthodics? I am curious because I made a shoe switch in November that really helped my running. I decided I'm going to "start over" because I never did establish good form for running and in order to do it right, I think the general concensus is to start slow, high frequency, low volume and work my way up in distance. This form feels so much more natural that I want to continue it, but do it the right way. I am running in a different pair of shoes than I had with my orthodics...mostly because those were neutral and the ones I'm in now are partial motion control. How does this method sound to you? I want to be able to confidently run my HIM in August, and was planning on doing a half mary in april or may, but that might not be in the cards now. |
| 2010-02-09 9:20 PM in reply to: #2662764 |
Extreme Veteran 1329 Wausau WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed jgerbodegrant - 2010-02-09 6:29 AMFor all of you runners: I have been switching to forefoot running for the past three or four runs. This was mostly because my new orthodics were trashing my arches and I couldn't put pressure on them or they would crack and bleed. I have really enjoyed it. I sort of worked my way up in terms of time. The first day I did about 20 minutes, then 35, then 50 etc. My run on Sunday was 1:15 and felt just fine, but my calves are quite sore right in the middle where your achillies attaches to the muscle. It's not all the time, just when I flex them, so it's not injured, just sore. I have a 40 minute tempo run today that I am thinking about not doing because I don't want to overdo it. Any suggestions? I'm trying to "listen to my body." But it's not speaking the same language right now, so it's tough. A couple years ago I attended a tri camp. The one thing I got from the running was that I needed to increase my leg turn over, in order to do this you would need to shorten your stride and keep off your heels. I try and do this, but I have been running for over 25 years and it is hard to change. |
| 2010-02-10 6:32 AM in reply to: #2664798 |
Pro 3804 Seacoast, NH! | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Lumber Dad - 2010-02-09 10:20 PM jgerbodegrant - 2010-02-09 6:29 AMFor all of you runners: I have been switching to forefoot running for the past three or four runs. This was mostly because my new orthodics were trashing my arches and I couldn't put pressure on them or they would crack and bleed. I have really enjoyed it. I sort of worked my way up in terms of time. The first day I did about 20 minutes, then 35, then 50 etc. My run on Sunday was 1:15 and felt just fine, but my calves are quite sore right in the middle where your achillies attaches to the muscle. It's not all the time, just when I flex them, so it's not injured, just sore. I have a 40 minute tempo run today that I am thinking about not doing because I don't want to overdo it. Any suggestions? I'm trying to "listen to my body." But it's not speaking the same language right now, so it's tough. A couple years ago I attended a tri camp. The one thing I got from the running was that I needed to increase my leg turn over, in order to do this you would need to shorten your stride and keep off your heels. I try and do this, but I have been running for over 25 years and it is hard to change. I am actually excited to hear this because I actually have only been running for about a year...and it's been very off and on with several issues. And I never really established any form at all. I am reading about the right way to do it and we'll see how it goes. I already have very quick turn-over and run at about 40-45 spm. We'll see how it goes. Like I said, I'm going to wait a couple days until my calves are no longer sore and start out at 15 min. increments and work up like five minutes or so every 10-14 days. I plan on keeping frequency higher...around 3 days the first week, four the second week and so on. |
| 2010-02-10 10:15 AM in reply to: #2558347 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed While we are on the topic of running form, what's the consensus on treadmill running? I have a hard time getting comfortable on the darned thing, it seems to force a change of form. The people I see at the gym who seem to be most comfortable seem to be lengthening their stride quite a bit and almost heel striking. |
| 2010-02-10 10:26 AM in reply to: #2665596 |
Pro 3804 Seacoast, NH! | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed abake - 2010-02-10 11:15 AM While we are on the topic of running form, what's the consensus on treadmill running? I have a hard time getting comfortable on the darned thing, it seems to force a change of form. The people I see at the gym who seem to be most comfortable seem to be lengthening their stride quite a bit and almost heel striking. I obviously should not be answering this question in my current "run state", but I will say that I tend to run way too far forward up near the computer of the mill instead of running in the middle of it. This more or less forces you to increase your cadence and land under your body instead of out in front. |
| 2010-02-10 10:56 AM in reply to: #2665630 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed jgerbodegrant - 2010-02-10 10:26 AM I obviously should not be answering this question in my current "run state", but I will say that I tend to run way too far forward up near the computer of the mill instead of running in the middle of it. This more or less forces you to increase your cadence and land under your body instead of out in front. See, I think I do this too (run too close to the front). It feels very uncomfortable in the confined space of the treadmill. Maybe it's the fear of getting too close to the back of the belt and flipping off the back. |
| 2010-02-10 12:26 PM in reply to: #2665721 |
Pro 3804 Seacoast, NH! | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed abake - 2010-02-10 11:56 AM jgerbodegrant - 2010-02-10 10:26 AM I obviously should not be answering this question in my current "run state", but I will say that I tend to run way too far forward up near the computer of the mill instead of running in the middle of it. This more or less forces you to increase your cadence and land under your body instead of out in front. See, I think I do this too (run too close to the front). It feels very uncomfortable in the confined space of the treadmill. Maybe it's the fear of getting too close to the back of the belt and flipping off the back. That's DEFINITELY the case for me. I'm 6'4" in my sneakers and my long legs actually come very close to the back when I'm not right against the bar. |
| 2010-02-10 12:54 PM in reply to: #2665596 |
Extreme Veteran 1329 Wausau WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed abake - 2010-02-10 10:15 AM While we are on the topic of running form, what's the consensus on treadmill running? I have a hard time getting comfortable on the darned thing, it seems to force a change of form. The people I see at the gym who seem to be most comfortable seem to be lengthening their stride quite a bit and almost heel striking. Haven't been on a treadmill for couple years now. I know I used to stay up to the front, some times I would end up kicking the front I got so close. If there is still snow on the ground this sping when it comes time to start speed work I might do my speed work on the treadmill, I don't think Brewer will like that though. |
| 2010-02-10 2:18 PM in reply to: #2558347 |
Expert 799 Waukesha, WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Yay! Running..this is my area of expertise (maybe |
)| 2010-02-10 3:30 PM in reply to: #2666277 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed lrunfit - 2010-02-10 2:18 PM ...As for treadmills...I don't like them at all. I do the same thing getting close to the front and my stride doesn;t feel right. If you are going to use a treadmill be careful especially if you do hill work on it. I have had numberous friends who have had calf issues from using the treadmill. I can see doing speework on it though because that would be short bursts with easy recovery in between. Thanks for the advice, I find that my calves are always sore after using a treadmill. It just feels unnatural. We had another winter storm here so running outside on the ice seemed like a bad call. I'm taking my act back to the Y and run on the little indoor track! |
| 2010-02-11 6:46 AM in reply to: #2666277 |
Pro 3804 Seacoast, NH! | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed lrunfit - 2010-02-10 3:18 PM Yay! Running..this is my area of expertise (maybe Thanks for the info! I'm starting my 15 min run sessions today. 15 minutes sounds like such a short period of time compared to the hour and fifteen last Sunday. I guess it's good if you're just starting new form. What intensity should I be doing these short sessions at? I plan on doing my swim or bike after so there's not much of a warm up. |
| 2010-02-11 6:58 AM in reply to: #2558347 |
Expert 799 Waukesha, WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed What is the purpose of the 15 minute run? |
| 2010-02-11 8:10 AM in reply to: #2558347 |
Extreme Veteran 1329 Wausau WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Forgot to do the Wednesday weigh-in, 177.2, think that is down a little from last week. Must have been since I didn't write last weeks weight down. Go in for sinus surgery tomorrow, hope the third time takes care of it. So that means no workout for 7 - 10 days, by Monday I will be able to take Brewer for a short walk. So I looks like I will spend the weekend sitting on the couch watcing the Olympics. |
| 2010-02-11 11:54 AM in reply to: #2666277 |
| Member 138 Freeland | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Thanks for the info greatly appreciated. Weighed in at 250lbs, so a little inprovement form the last time. Has anybody tried P90x? Just curious. Looking for something different. Thanks. Jon |
| 2010-02-11 11:57 AM in reply to: #2667460 |
| Member 138 Freeland | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Good luck on the surgey. |
| 2010-02-11 2:50 PM in reply to: #2558347 |
Expert 799 Waukesha, WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Good luck on the surgery. Keep us updated! |
| 2010-02-11 2:53 PM in reply to: #2558347 |
Expert 1694 Illinois | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Good luck with your surgery! |
| 2010-02-11 2:59 PM in reply to: #2667460 |
Extreme Veteran 460 | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Lumber Dad - 2010-02-11 8:10 AM Forgot to do the Wednesday weigh-in, 177.2, think that is down a little from last week. Must have been since I didn't write last weeks weight down. Go in for sinus surgery tomorrow, hope the third time takes care of it. So that means no workout for 7 - 10 days, by Monday I will be able to take Brewer for a short walk. So I looks like I will spend the weekend sitting on the couch watcing the Olympics. Good luck with your surgery and enjoy the break! |
| 2010-02-12 7:02 AM in reply to: #2558347 |
Extreme Veteran 1329 Wausau WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed |
| 2010-02-12 1:06 PM in reply to: #2558347 |
Expert 799 Waukesha, WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Weekend plans..What is everyon up to? I get to go to my daughters school this afternoon for their classes valentine's party. Then tonight we are going back for family night. Games, dancing..I think I might have seen something about doing the macarena  Other than that teaching spin as usual, some running and maybe a swim. |
| 2010-02-12 2:38 PM in reply to: #2670248 |
Regular 75 Kimberly, WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Wknd plans: Got my long run in yesterday and I am feelin' BEAT UP. Giving my legs a rest today and then tomorrow planning an early AM "recovery" run. Plan to add some other cardio & weight training fun this wknd, too. My daughter has another basketball tourney this wknd. We'll be in Shiocton on Sunday. The girls are ready. It's fun to watch this team play. They work really hard and play well together. And dancing to the Macarena tonight? Not in my plans. But sounds like fun! When the DJ plays it tonight don't be afraid to lead the dance and pick up the tempo a little. Song length is about 4-5 minutes - work everyone's heart rate up to Zone 3? "Hey Macarena!" |
| 2010-02-12 6:44 PM in reply to: #2558347 |
Extreme Veteran 1329 Wausau WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Well made it through sinus surgery, now I spend the next 3 days sitting on the couch. Have to try to keep my head up so my nose doesn't drain. They put packing in my nose so i have strings hanging out, which are very annoying. Have some good drugs but haven't had to use them yet. |
| 2010-02-13 6:42 AM in reply to: #2558347 |
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| 2010-02-14 8:18 PM in reply to: #2558347 |
Extreme Veteran 1329 Wausau WI | Subject: RE: Lumber Dad's Group - Closed Spent another day on the couch, driving me crazy. I don't go back to the doctor until Feb 23rd, so that means no working out until after that :-( |
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