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 2014-01-11 10:17 AM in reply to: ndechant |
Extreme Veteran  990    Collierville, Tennessee |  Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSEDOriginally posted by ndechant Thank you Randy. I'm going to commit to one long steady distance run, and one easy recover run a week for this spring until race season and see what happens. I have noticed already that by slowing down a HR zone on a 15km loop we have nearby I only lost 6 minutes but felt much much better at the end. Interesting. I must admit slowing down on long runs has made them much more enjoyable! As they say: Slow and steady wins the race...except for in a race. Nelson Yep, I totally agree with what Randy said. When I first started running, it was all about improving; I wanted to see that I was getting faster. I think this is a natural instinct for most people when they start out, but it's pretty dangerous. My advice to people without a lot of running experience is to stay in Z2 90% of the time, if not 99%. This will train your body to get more efficient, which will eventually result in a faster pace even though you're giving the same amount of effort. It will also help to prevent injury, as your cardiovascular system will adapt to longer and longer runs much faster than your joints will. Once you're comfortable with a given volume, then I think it's safe to start working in intervals of speed, but low and slow (relatively speaking) should form the bulk of your running miles. That's my two cents. I wore a HR monitor pretty religiously last season, but I'm straying away from it some this season, as I have a good idea of what my LR pace is, and I can hold it pretty well just based on RPE (Rate of Perceived Effort). However, I'll still use it, since it's a great guide during a race to make sure you're not over-extending yourself. I'm off to the pool to get some swimming in! The weather outside is pretty terrible, so I'll probably work in an indoor bike session this evening, and a long run tomorrow. I hope everyone is having a great Saturday. |
| 2014-01-11 10:39 AM in reply to: WoodrowCall |
| 121 Grand Rapids, Michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED This HR zone conversation fits right in with the thoughts I was having on the bike this morning that I was going to pose to the group. Here is my situation, I have never trained with any of this information we have available to us today (remember it has been 20 years since I really trained for anything and looking back it appears we did just about everything wrong) and I just got an HRM. I have the Kurt Kinetic power meter on order but it is not here yet. Additionally, I have not done any type of max HR testing yet, which may answer most of my question. So, with that background out of the way, here is my situation. As most of what I can do right now has been biking for the last couple weeks as I start this process out, I have been trying to ride “easy” which I know should be in zone 2. Now keep in mind that my zones on my Garmin are set up based on the worst possible formula (-age based) with no testing and that may be my issue. However, in order to maintain a cadence between 85-95 I am way at the upper end of Z2 to lower-mid Z3 but my RPE is more like 2-3. So, I guess my question is this, what is most important to me right now? Maintaining cadence, keeping HR in Z2, or trusting RPE? My only thought with RPE is that I know historically I personally have an ability to push my body to the absolute limits, which served me well competitively 20 years ago but I am afraid it could be detrimental to building the base I need to accomplish what I want in the triathlon game. As always, thanks to everyone for any thoughts… Chris |
| 2014-01-11 10:51 AM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 990 Collierville, Tennessee | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by 43YORook This HR zone conversation fits right in with the thoughts I was having on the bike this morning that I was going to pose to the group. Here is my situation, I have never trained with any of this information we have available to us today (remember it has been 20 years since I really trained for anything and looking back it appears we did just about everything wrong) and I just got an HRM. I have the Kurt Kinetic power meter on order but it is not here yet. Additionally, I have not done any type of max HR testing yet, which may answer most of my question. So, with that background out of the way, here is my situation. As most of what I can do right now has been biking for the last couple weeks as I start this process out, I have been trying to ride “easy” which I know should be in zone 2. Now keep in mind that my zones on my Garmin are set up based on the worst possible formula (-age based) with no testing and that may be my issue. However, in order to maintain a cadence between 85-95 I am way at the upper end of Z2 to lower-mid Z3 but my RPE is more like 2-3. So, I guess my question is this, what is most important to me right now? Maintaining cadence, keeping HR in Z2, or trusting RPE? My only thought with RPE is that I know historically I personally have an ability to push my body to the absolute limits, which served me well competitively 20 years ago but I am afraid it could be detrimental to building the base I need to accomplish what I want in the triathlon game. As always, thanks to everyone for any thoughts… Chris Good questions. Here are my thoughts: First, your running and biking HR zones won't be the same thing. Max effort on the bike is a different than max effort on the run. Generally speaking, your HR should be lower on the bike, so your HR zones will be different for each activity. As far as what to do with HR, cadence, and RPE-I think if you're working to your first triathlon, then it would be good to find your comfort level on the bike. Find the cadence that keeps you in a HR zone that you can hold for longer workouts, and then you can start working in intervals once you find that comfortable zone. Most people are pretty shocked at the speed/pace they have to maintain to stay in Z2, but you've got to put your ego to the side sometimes to train for a long term goal, like a triathlon. The 85-90 cadence is a range, and everyone is comfortable at a different cadence, so just ride some, pay attention to your HR, and you'll find what you can hold. Then, over time, you can see it change, which is always fun. Oh, and here's a link to a great page on HR training: http://www.trainingbible.com/joesblog/2009/11/quick-guide-to-settin... Edited by WoodrowCall 2014-01-11 10:51 AM |
| 2014-01-11 11:04 AM in reply to: WoodrowCall |
| 121 Grand Rapids, Michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Thanks Jamie, that is what I was thinking. The part that has me concerned is your statement to "...find the zone...you can hold for longer periods". His is part of my issue. I rode 1 hour and 45 minutes today. The last 30-40 minutes I was definitely in lower Z3 and sometimes mid Z3, according to the Garmin. However, I was very comfortable and truly believe I could have ridden another hour (easily) at that level. So, does that lead us to believe that my HR zones are set incorrectly or that I am underestimating my RPE? or both? Thanks again... |
| 2014-01-11 2:36 PM in reply to: 43YORook |
Master 3205  ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by 43YORook Thanks Jamie, that is what I was thinking. The part that has me concerned is your statement to "...find the zone...you can hold for longer periods". His is part of my issue. I rode 1 hour and 45 minutes today. The last 30-40 minutes I was definitely in lower Z3 and sometimes mid Z3, according to the Garmin. However, I was very comfortable and truly believe I could have ridden another hour (easily) at that level. So, does that lead us to believe that my HR zones are set incorrectly or that I am underestimating my RPE? or both? Thanks again... I am of the belief that you need to train very differently for biking and running. What Randy quoted above, "Run lots, mostly easy. Bike lots, mostly hard....." is right on. At the volumes that we are able to achieve with running (while tri training) we can get a work load that will help to make significant running gains. What I am trying to say is this: running 75-125 miles per month, all easy, is going to get you some pretty good running gains in an achievable time commitment. Unfortunately, the volume of easy cycling that you would require to see similar gains as to what you get with easy running would be massive (think 1,500 miles per month on the bike........) No one I know has 20+ hours/week to dedicate to bike riding so instead we substitute in effort for volume on the bike. You can get a lot more cardiovascular work done in an hour on the bike by doing 8 x 5 minutes Uncomfortably HARD on 2 minutes easy than you can by just riding at the top of your comfort zone for an hour. The good thing is that the risk of injury from these types of hard efforts on the bike is very low. Most people's bodies tolerate this very well. And, yes, your heart rate zones are likely not accurate. I suspect that with your elite level athletic history that you may have more than a little residual 'different physiology' than the average person. Plus, part of what may have made you elite was your ability to modify YOUR perception of what physical pain is. Your RPE might be part of what made you an elite runner and it may be skewed as well. |
| 2014-01-11 3:09 PM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me  So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! |
| 2014-01-11 3:30 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 3205 ann arbor, michigan | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! Go compact. I have no regrets with doing so. You can change rear cassettes easily but the crank is more work (and $). |
| 2014-01-11 4:31 PM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Extreme Veteran 1190 Silicon Valley | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED So I just came back from a meeting at my LBS for a new TriClub. I can't go right now but will look into it again when I get the OK from the Doc. However, I did win a massive container of Perpetuem powder in a drawing. Anyone have any experience with it? Comments, best use, warnings etc? Thanks in advance. |
| 2014-01-11 5:28 PM in reply to: Stuartap |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by Stuartap So I just came back from a meeting at my LBS for a new TriClub. I can't go right now but will look into it again when I get the OK from the Doc. However, I did win a massive container of Perpetuem powder in a drawing. Anyone have any experience with it? Comments, best use, warnings etc? Thanks in advance. I love perpetuem! My husband uses it for marathons and I use it for rides longer than 2 hours. It's very easy to digest and has a mild taste. Of all the Hammer products, we primarily use that and their gels. No real warnings that I can think of..... As with anything, just trial and error! In fact, I'm a "Hammer sponsored athelete" for 2014 :D (I'm not sure how hard it is to be one but I threw my hat in the ring and they accepted!) It's only tier 3 but who knows..... |
| 2014-01-11 5:47 PM in reply to: wannabefaster |
Master 3058 South Alabama | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me Go compact. I have no regrets with doing so. You can change rear cassettes easily but the crank is more work (and $). So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! Fantastic! Now what are you going to obsess about? |
| 2014-01-11 5:55 PM in reply to: slornow |
Master 3058 South Alabama | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Had a good day today. Daughter safely made the drive back to school....always a concern. Got in a solid bike workout then wife and I went out to lunch and a movie. Not exciting but a nice day. Tomorrow will be another swim workout and a short run assuming my calf doesn't say otherwise. |
| 2014-01-11 6:16 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 2177 | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by Stuartap So I just came back from a meeting at my LBS for a new TriClub. I can't go right now but will look into it again when I get the OK from the Doc. However, I did win a massive container of Perpetuem powder in a drawing. Anyone have any experience with it? Comments, best use, warnings etc? Thanks in advance. I love perpetuem! My husband uses it for marathons and I use it for rides longer than 2 hours. It's very easy to digest and has a mild taste. Of all the Hammer products, we primarily use that and their gels. No real warnings that I can think of..... As with anything, just trial and error! In fact, I'm a "Hammer sponsored athelete" for 2014 :D (I'm not sure how hard it is to be one but I threw my hat in the ring and they accepted!) It's only tier 3 but who knows..... Congratulations on your sponsorship!! |
| 2014-01-11 6:19 PM in reply to: slornow |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by slornow Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me Go compact. I have no regrets with doing so. You can change rear cassettes easily but the crank is more work (and $). So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! Fantastic! Now what are you going to obsess about? I don't really have anything to obsess about.....suggestions? LOL It's Ultegra 11spd. YAY!!!! |
| 2014-01-11 6:23 PM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
Master 1779 | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by slornow I don't really have anything to obsess about.....suggestions? LOL It's Ultegra 11spd. YAY!!!! Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me Go compact. I have no regrets with doing so. You can change rear cassettes easily but the crank is more work (and $). So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! Fantastic! Now what are you going to obsess about?
Congrats on the new bike!!! What color is your new baby? |
| 2014-01-11 6:37 PM in reply to: Catwoman |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by Catwoman Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by slornow I don't really have anything to obsess about.....suggestions? LOL It's Ultegra 11spd. YAY!!!! Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me Go compact. I have no regrets with doing so. You can change rear cassettes easily but the crank is more work (and $). So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! Fantastic! Now what are you going to obsess about?
Congrats on the new bike!!! What color is your new baby? thanks! black/white/red. http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/triathlon/speed_concept_7... |
| 2014-01-11 6:43 PM in reply to: Stuartap |
Extreme Veteran 990 Collierville, Tennessee | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by Stuartap So I just came back from a meeting at my LBS for a new TriClub. I can't go right now but will look into it again when I get the OK from the Doc. However, I did win a massive container of Perpetuem powder in a drawing. Anyone have any experience with it? Comments, best use, warnings etc? Thanks in advance. I've started using Perpetuem and like it a lot. I think it's definitely a 'unique' taste that some like and others don't. I'm planning on using it throughout this season in preparation for IMChoo. I also used it last season in my last HIM and it worked really well. I made a 3 hour bottle by mixing 3 bottle's worth of mix in one bottle, then I took a drink every 15 minutes that I chased with some regular water from another bottle. One note of caution, once it warms up, there's protein in it that can turn rancid if the bottle gets too warm, like sitting out in sun for hours on end. For my IM, I plan on freezing a bottle and leaving it in Special Needs for the bike. It should be thawed by then, but not too warm. |
| 2014-01-11 7:27 PM in reply to: WoodrowCall |
New user 410 | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Blanda,, good news on the foot so glad to hear it. Jason, I appreciate the nutrition post you made. Some really good information, Thanks for taking the time to detail it out. Great day here in Memphis. Did my long run today, four tomorrow. I may even take my bike out tomorrow. I haven't done anything but the gym bike since October. I was in an auto accident and the concussion left me with a couple months of dizzy spells. It is better and the weather is better so tomorrow may be the day! Mary |
| 2014-01-11 8:07 PM in reply to: Chunga |
Expert 868 | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED I would love to be part of this mentor group again! Thanks for asking! I just did a trainer ride to "test the waters". It's been 3 weeks since I did a ride and since the afib ablation I was not sure what to expect. My heart rate was in high 120's to 130's (Z2) but definitely higher than usual for the same effort. Fortunately I felt OK, no dizziness, or shortness of breath more than that induced by exercise, overall I'm pleased. I will be recalculating my heart rate zones soon. I will give it at least a week or two before I attempt that. I am excited to catch up on the posts. Back to the pool on Monday, it's going to be a little hard at first. Fortunately, I am coming off a pretty solid base, with my last IM in November, a PR!! My race schedule is evolving: A few 5K's this spring. IM Texas in May - this is going to be a challenge, but I've done it twice before, Acclimating will tough but I have a few trips scheduled for San Diego in between. Grand Rapids half IM this summer. IM AZ in November (maybe Jason and I can finally meet!) More to follow. I'm on call at the hospital tonight and duty calls! Jim |
| 2014-01-12 6:24 AM in reply to: jimmyb |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED morning gang! Stuart-I used to use Perpeteum when I first started longer distance triathlons. I used the unflavored version and then put Hammer Espresso gel in it for added CHOs. It also tasted like coffee which worked to my advantage when it got warm to hot. I eventually moved away from it because the protein ration was a little too high and the malodextrin began to bother my gut. It's why I made the switch to Infinit. One piece of advice, wash your bottles very well after each use. Like Jamie said, something goes rancid and they can really smell like spoiled milk if you don't. Randee--love the sleekness of the bike. Big congrats on being a sponsored athlete. Does it include nutrition and a tri kit? I've enjoyed the dialogue on training intensity. During the off season, both my bike and my run are full of Z4-Z6 interval workouts. Tough, but short. We've talked a lot about nutrition and training for IM, but what differs for short course, especially during the season? It'll be my first year in five since that is my focus. |
| 2014-01-12 9:13 AM in reply to: 43YORook |
New user 234 New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by 43YORook This HR zone conversation fits right in with the thoughts I was having on the bike this morning that I was going to pose to the group. Here is my situation, I have never trained with any of this information we have available to us today (remember it has been 20 years since I really trained for anything and looking back it appears we did just about everything wrong) and I just got an HRM. I have the Kurt Kinetic power meter on order but it is not here yet. Additionally, I have not done any type of max HR testing yet, which may answer most of my question. So, with that background out of the way, here is my situation. As most of what I can do right now has been biking for the last couple weeks as I start this process out, I have been trying to ride “easy” which I know should be in zone 2. Now keep in mind that my zones on my Garmin are set up based on the worst possible formula (-age based) with no testing and that may be my issue. However, in order to maintain a cadence between 85-95 I am way at the upper end of Z2 to lower-mid Z3 but my RPE is more like 2-3. So, I guess my question is this, what is most important to me right now? Maintaining cadence, keeping HR in Z2, or trusting RPE? My only thought with RPE is that I know historically I personally have an ability to push my body to the absolute limits, which served me well competitively 20 years ago but I am afraid it could be detrimental to building the base I need to accomplish what I want in the triathlon game. As always, thanks to everyone for any thoughts… Chris Here's a great thread on determining heart rate zones: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... |
| 2014-01-12 9:17 AM in reply to: mtnbikerchk |
New user 234 New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by Catwoman Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by slornow I don't really have anything to obsess about.....suggestions? LOL It's Ultegra 11spd. YAY!!!! Originally posted by wannabefaster Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Running mostly easy was the approach I took this past season basically because I was coming back from injury and was just taking it easy. By fall I was feeling pretty good and registered for 2 hms within 2 weeks of each other. In training my goal was to cover the distance and not really worry about pace. I trained through the first one at my training pace and came in at 2:26. The next one I went out to do well and hit 2:12 - not blistering by any stretch but I was totally psyched and faster than I thought I could do. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the Maffeton method (and I've read one of his books too btw) especially for beginners - me Go compact. I have no regrets with doing so. You can change rear cassettes easily but the crank is more work (and $). So here it is Randy.......I pulled the trigger.....the ETA for my new Trek Speed Concept 7.5 is March 10th - which is actually perfect because I don't think I'll be able to get it outside before that anyway (and probably not until April). I feel like I just bought a car but I'm excited. Next to decide - standard crankset or go compact? My roade is compact and I'm not sure I can handle a full double. I have to talk to my lbs but I have time. Also, on the back it comes with 11-25. I'm thinking maybe 11-28. Hills are my strength and I'd hate to lose that. I also ordered an adamo saddle. WHEEEEEEE!! Fantastic! Now what are you going to obsess about?
Congrats on the new bike!!! What color is your new baby? thanks! black/white/red. http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/triathlon/speed_concept_7... Sweet bike. Congrats! I'm more than a little jealous. |
| 2014-01-12 1:34 PM in reply to: GoldenSprocket |
Member 836 North Augusta, South Carolina | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Just wanted to pop in and say hey. Knee feels better, but after walking the dogs for an hour this morning, I'm feeling tweaky again. Hoping to get some answers on Thursday. Stupid knees. Randee...THAT is a SWEET bike!!! I'm in serious lust mode after looking at the photo!! |
| 2014-01-12 2:10 PM in reply to: glfprncs |
Extreme Veteran 990 Collierville, Tennessee | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Nancy-Sorry to hear that the knee is still a problem. It'll be nice if you get some answers this week! Getting injured is definitely my paramount concern with all this training. It seems like everyone is always cruising along without a problem, and then, bam, now they're injured. Knock on wood, that hasn't happened to me yet, but I can sympathize! I got in a 12-mile run this morning that felt good, but I could definitely tell that my legs are tired from ramping up the intensity of my bike sessions this week. I've kept up my long run over the off-season, but the weekly bike/run totals were down, so there was less overall volume. It was a little bit of a wake-up call for getting back into real training! On a separate note, I decided to go back and look at my run workout this time last year...and what a difference. Today: 12 miles/8:42 pace Last year: 6.2 miles/9:39 pace It's nice to see that I can double the distance and take off almost a minute from my pace. Who knew all this running would result in progress?? Now, I just need to keep killing myself on the bike, get some speed on there! |
| 2014-01-12 4:37 PM in reply to: WoodrowCall |
New user 234 New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by WoodrowCall On a separate note, I decided to go back and look at my run workout this time last year...and what a difference. Today: 12 miles/8:42 pace Last year: 6.2 miles/9:39 pace It's nice to see that I can double the distance and take off almost a minute from my pace. Who knew all this running would result in progress?? Now, I just need to keep killing myself on the bike, get some speed on there! Nice. Sometimes it takes a look back to realize how much you've gained. My knee seems to be getting better. After taking the week off I ran an easy 3 on the treadmill yesterday. It felt pretty good so I decided to join my wife for her long run of 7 miles today. Her pace is about a minute or so slower per mile so I figured it would be a good way to keep me from pushing too hard. I would say there was about a 50% reduction in pain. More uncomfortable/annoying than anything else. I doubt it is anything too serious because as soon as I stopped running and started walking for a cool down there was no pain at all. I plan on staying the course this week and going really easy on it. Probably test it out on Wednesday and keep up with the rolling, ice and Ibuprofen. |
| 2014-01-12 5:13 PM in reply to: SSMinnow |
Member 2098 Simsbury, Connecticut | Subject: RE: Slornow and Wannabefaster's Winter Group version 3-CLOSED Originally posted by SSMinnow Randee--love the sleekness of the bike. Big congrats on being a sponsored athlete. Does it include nutrition and a tri kit? So far it's just product/clothing discounts and a few freebies up front. I have a feeling they'll throw more our way as the season kicks up. Thanks everyone for the bike congrats! I'm "reservedly excited." Ok and I want all the knee problems in this group to magically disappear!! soooooo POOF! BE GONE! |
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