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2013-07-31 2:31 PM
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Originally posted by wenceslasz I hope it is just a nuisance ache.

 

Me too. No problem swimming today. Long bike tomorrow. Fri maybe I'll try a short run. Icing seems to help.



2013-07-31 6:50 PM
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My Fellow Trainees

I ave a bike route here that i need to work with:

http://www.mapmyride.com/us/panorama-village-tx/ironstar-bike-route...

I need advice to work this route. i am targeting to finish it in 3:00 to 3:15 .

let me know anything that can help me. Any advice how can i utilize my indoor trainer to work on hills.

thanks in advance friends.

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2013-07-31 11:27 PM
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I'm not sure what to say Carlo. I looked at the map and it looks like a good rolling hills ride with a 950' of total climbing. I don't know your area to be able to guess at what your wind conditions are like.

Then I snuck a peek at your logs and you're riding in the range of 17 to 19mph. If conditions are windy or calm; a tailwind or a headwind then that will affect your times beyond your control but otherwise you should just ride like you already do. 94km = 58mi @ 18mph is 3:15 you're already there.

So, I think maybe I need you to tell me how to ride faster. And, I'd like to be faster in 4 weeks (for my 112mi ride) - okay?



All - I went down to the lake this morning to go for a 2k swim but when I got there I just couldn't bring myself to go in. So, I took the day off and I don't seem to feel guilty (too much). I did go for coffee with a friend I swim with often. I need to get back to work again though.

I did try to make an appointment for a professional bike fitting but I'm stuck playing phone tag. Hopefully, I'll get it arranged by tomorrow.
2013-08-01 8:24 AM
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Originally posted by strykergt  Any advice how can i utilize my indoor trainer to work on hills. 

Best way to work on hills is to ride hills. That's all I got. Looks like a nice ride.

2013-08-01 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by strykergt  Any advice how can i utilize my indoor trainer to work on hills. 

Best way to work on hills is to ride hills. That's all I got. Looks like a nice ride.

X2.  But here's a thread with some more ideas: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... would say your best options are driving to some hills or riding into the wind.  But the hills on that ride you posted are not that bad, so really I think some solid interval work would be good too.  Strategy wise, spin up, and don't stop pushing at the top, that's a common mistake.  People tend to take a break at the top of the hill but that's the best time to push yourself to top speed as you go down and then take a break while you're on the downhill.

2013-08-01 2:35 PM
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Originally posted by miche033

Originally posted by strykergt  Any advice how can i utilize my indoor trainer to work on hills. 

Best way to work on hills is to ride hills. That's all I got. Looks like a nice ride.

X2.  But here's a thread with some more ideas: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... would say your best options are driving to some hills or riding into the wind.  But the hills on that ride you posted are not that bad, so really I think some solid interval work would be good too.  Strategy wise, spin up, and don't stop pushing at the top, that's a common mistake.  People tend to take a break at the top of the hill but that's the best time to push yourself to top speed as you go down and then take a break while you're on the downhill.




Thanks for all. I have been practicing on flat most of the time and when i checked one time the elevation of the HID im planning this Nov. wala! its rolling hills. The hilly routes are 50 mins away. Joe is lucky he is from Cali he steps out the door there goes the hills.



2013-08-01 9:01 PM
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Yeah it's pretty sweet here for that.  Within about 20 minutes drive is all the hills I could possibly want, from short rolling hills to straight up the side of a mountain.
2013-08-02 12:09 AM
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Holy smokes!  Was just bored and flipping through some Hasher and Masher training blogs and came upon cayrip's...definitely unique.  Hint: if you don't like snakes, steer clear.
2013-08-02 10:21 PM
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Cayrip's log is interesting and educational.



In getting ready for my HIM I lost track of what was coming up in our area. I realized today that we've got an "Ultraman" event this weekend. For anyone who needs something harder to aim for than an Ironman an Ultraman is a three day event:

Day 1 - 10km swim (the length of Skaha Lake), then a 145km bike ride (it is actually 144.x km) that includes a local hill climb known as "the wall".
Day 2 - 275km (274.x km) bike ride.
Day 3 - 84.33km run (double marathon)

This is not something I aspire to. A fellow I swim with volunteered as one of an athletes support group and he wound up running 50+km himself on the 3rd day. Maybe one year I will volunteer to be support crew.

This year there are only 29 athletes registered including 6 women. Apparently there are now 4 Ultraman locations in the world - Penticton, Hawaii (World championship), United Kingdom and Florida.


I'm embarrassed to say I went and bought a new bike helmet today and it matches my bike. I've never tried to be "matchy" before but I just liked the look of it. It's a Giro, Savant if anyone knows about such things.

2013-08-02 11:45 PM
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July stats!

 

 SwimBikeRunTotal Time
strykergt26275.29287.7588.8454:13:15 
Fresno_Joe14200351.9280.2540:15:25
miche03327040188.3262.0340:02:57
iLOVEwaffles16420.3428.596.7539:04:45
TRIal_of_miles18050300.614.336:38:26
wenceslasz15891.53263.6539.5833:10:25
superclydesdale4234262.7450.6128:00:40
mbehr198317168.72225.8851.1227:59:43
oriolepwr--284.0849.0525:38:12
knighton17523.5174.7357.3324:07:40
sarah736400154.0549.4819:08:42
ransick----118.319:02:28
PsyTri9600117.229.1718:06:02
cayrip--25.5262.713:15:51
Jax--52.150.6610:37:01
Tri Rick Tri670078.0416.949:37:15
Ybeal382539.676.025:30:49
lesandtj--78.51--4:26:39
TomsTri-ing--15.19.93:35:40
johnthecat----9.252:20:00

 



Edited by Fresno_Joe 2013-08-02 11:47 PM
2013-08-04 1:12 PM
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:crickets chirping:

 

Hopefully the radio silence means everyone is busy out there training.  

I'm tapering.  Tapering is awesome, I'm great at tapering.  Not really being as focused in my tapering as I should be.  Really should jog and bike today, but I may not get to either.  Excited for my race though.  Exactly one week from today I should be a couple miles into my run.



2013-08-04 2:31 PM
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Originally posted by Fresno_Joe

July stats!

 

 SwimBikeRunTotal Time
strykergt26275.29287.7588.8454:13:15 
Fresno_Joe14200351.9280.2540:15:25
miche03327040188.3262.0340:02:57
iLOVEwaffles16420.3428.596.7539:04:45
TRIal_of_miles18050300.614.336:38:26
wenceslasz15891.53263.6539.5833:10:25
superclydesdale4234262.7450.6128:00:40
mbehr198317168.72225.8851.1227:59:43
oriolepwr--284.0849.0525:38:12
knighton17523.5174.7357.3324:07:40
sarah736400154.0549.4819:08:42
ransick----118.319:02:28
PsyTri9600117.229.1718:06:02
cayrip--25.5262.713:15:51
Jax--52.150.6610:37:01
Tri Rick Tri670078.0416.949:37:15
Ybeal382539.676.025:30:49
lesandtj--78.51--4:26:39
TomsTri-ing--15.19.93:35:40
johnthecat----9.252:20:00

 




Joe: thanks for the stats.

All: Just curious if you know what each Hasher/Masher is training for. Trying to get a sense for what other Sprint-ers are training like. Won't make a difference, since I'm a few weeks from my taper for first Sprint on September 1, and I'm sticking to my training program (maybe even a adding a little more running, plus frequent core/strength workouts). Just curious, though.

Thanks.

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2013-08-04 2:31 PM
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Good luck on your race. I am beginnig my taper as well for my oly next Sunday but I feel more anxiety with the reduced training. It appears that it is officially the long awaited race season.
2013-08-04 3:08 PM
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I'm training for an Olympic tri at the start of September, but I've got some more mileage because I'm also doing a half at the end of August. I'm focusing the most on bike mileage/speed because that has always been my weakest leg. My run mileage will decrease a lot this month because my leg is hurting where my old stress fracture was and I don't want to aggravate it.
2013-08-04 4:05 PM
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I have stopped training for Tri's at the moment. I'm currently registered for my first HM on Dec. 1 in Florida. I still plan to work in cycling and swimming to shoot for my first Olympic next year. Money is too tight for any other races for the rest of the summer. Plus, still getting my feet wet with the new job.

Good luck to all whom still have races to go.

May the Legs be with You!

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2013-08-04 5:24 PM
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Training for
Oly- Sept.2 labor day
5150 Oly- maybe end of Sept.
Half Iron- 1st week November


2013-08-04 5:29 PM
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Right now in taper mode for my 70.3 next weekend.  After that I think my tri season is over.  Doing a HM in early November.
2013-08-04 5:33 PM
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Originally posted by PsyTri All: Just curious if you know what each Hasher/Masher is training for. Trying to get a sense for what other Sprint-ers are training like. Won't make a difference, since I'm a few weeks from my taper for first Sprint on September 1, and I'm sticking to my training program (maybe even a adding a little more running, plus frequent core/strength workouts). Just curious, though. Thanks. G
Just glanced at your training logs...looks solid to me.  If you're following a schedule just keep your faith in that.  The last couple weeks in your logs look a little light in the running category, is that per the plan or are your legs hurting?

Forgive my bad memory, but is this your first tri?

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I have an oly next weekend and hyvee tri on sept 1 which is also an oly. That's pretty much it for my year. Next year I plan on a marathon and maybe a HIM if I am feeling really crazy.
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Originally posted by Fresno_Joe

Originally posted by PsyTri All: Just curious if you know what each Hasher/Masher is training for. Trying to get a sense for what other Sprint-ers are training like. Won't make a difference, since I'm a few weeks from my taper for first Sprint on September 1, and I'm sticking to my training program (maybe even a adding a little more running, plus frequent core/strength workouts). Just curious, though. Thanks. G
Just glanced at your training logs...looks solid to me.  If you're following a schedule just keep your faith in that.  The last couple weeks in your logs look a little light in the running category, is that per the plan or are your legs hurting?

Forgive my bad memory, but is this your first tri?




Thanks for the feedback. It is my first tri. Been training since early June and sticking to a 16 week plan (missed the first 3-1/2 weeks of my plan because of a strained back and some family stuff). Legs are great. That blip is just an artifact of me jostling the schedule around. I was out of town and had to swim when near pool. Bike when near a stationary bike, and run as much as I could fit in. Actually, the week before, I ran 6.5 miles of hills out in the country on vacation. Longest run so far (and probably in my life!). That's why the following week looks light. I just worked extra days on vacation and took Sunday off (my long run day) for travel home. If anything, I've been running more than the plan at times (to prep for a 5k I did a few weeks ago).
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July stats!

 

 SwimBikeRunTotal Time
strykergt26275.29287.7588.8454:13:15 
Fresno_Joe14200351.9280.2540:15:25
miche03327040188.3262.0340:02:57
iLOVEwaffles16420.3428.596.7539:04:45
TRIal_of_miles18050300.614.336:38:26
wenceslasz15891.53263.6539.5833:10:25
superclydesdale4234262.7450.6128:00:40
mbehr198317168.72225.8851.1227:59:43
oriolepwr--284.0849.0525:38:12
knighton17523.5174.7357.3324:07:40
sarah736400154.0549.4819:08:42
ransick----118.319:02:28
PsyTri9600117.229.1718:06:02
cayrip--25.5262.713:15:51
Jax--52.150.6610:37:01
Tri Rick Tri670078.0416.949:37:15
Ybeal382539.676.025:30:49
lesandtj--78.51--4:26:39
TomsTri-ing--15.19.93:35:40
johnthecat----9.252:20:00

 

Can't believe I did more of anything than strykergt!

But it seems I need more biking and running. So I have improved my 100 yd swim by 10 seconds over several months of training. That translates to... 3 min faster on race day! Been feeling crummy the last couple days. Hope my nap this afternoon helped.



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Originally posted by TRIal_of_miles Good luck on your race. I am beginnig my taper as well for my oly next Sunday but I feel more anxiety with the reduced training. It appears that it is officially the long awaited race season.

No, the taper is the best part! Don't waste your anxiety on it.

Going to be a big weekend for Hashers and Mashers, eh? Looking forward to your reports!

2013-08-04 9:02 PM
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Originally posted by miche033

Originally posted by TRIal_of_miles Good luck on your race. I am beginnig my taper as well for my oly next Sunday but I feel more anxiety with the reduced training. It appears that it is officially the long awaited race season.

No, the taper is the best part! Don't waste your anxiety on it.

Going to be a big weekend for Hashers and Mashers, eh? Looking forward to your reports!




Ditto that! Looking forward it.
2013-08-04 9:04 PM
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I'm running Chicago Marathon in Oct. Not really racing it. So basically I'm "maintenance training"
2013-08-04 10:06 PM
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I've got a week of training and then a taper for my Challenge Bike Relay (180km). The race is 3 weeks from today and I'm not happy with how I feel. I went out today for a 120km ride and I was 15 minutes faster than last week but I was just as bagged by the time I reached the top of Yellow Lake so I'm worried about how slow I am with all the climbing and how uncomfortable I was on my saddle.

I'm hoping my bike fitting will make enough of a difference that I'll be able to ride with a lot less saddle discomfort and ride another 60km comfortably.

After the bike relay I may sign up for an Oly on Sept. 8th. I'll have to decide pretty soon.
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