Ironman Coeur d'Alene : Official Thread (Page 23)

Totally makes sense. The pace seems to pick up in the last six though. I would think it got progressively worse. 

Not sure how you guys get these quotes in your note, but I will try this and see if it works.  

For the athletes finishing under 12 hours, you are finishing at the peak heat of the day.   If there is not a breeze off the lake it can be quite warm.   Many of the athletes are borderline hyponatremic(Low blood sodium) and dehydrated at this time, and combined with fatigue and the heat affect run times.   Esp in the last 10K.    Staying wet(evaporative cooling) and increasing salt through the run can help times.   For me the heat off the buildings and streeets in town from mile 11 to 14 is fatiguing even with the help of the spectators.

Maybe because Special Needs is in the 3rd leg?  or maybe a timing issue?  seems odd that everyone would speed up the last 6.

rbalazs - 2013-03-22 5:58 PM

MRGIBBS - 2013-03-22 11:58 AM

mruss77 - 2013-03-21 5:51 PM I've been looking at last years results. It seems everyone was significantly slower in the third 6 miles of the marathon. Looking at the course elevation, there doesn't seem to be an explanation for why. Any ideas from people who have run the course?

Not sure how you guys get these quotes in your note, but I will try this and see if it works.  

For the athletes finishing under 12 hours, you are finishing at the peak heat of the day.   If there is not a breeze off the lake it can be quite warm.   Many of the athletes are borderline hyponatremic(Low blood sodium) and dehydrated at this time, and combined with fatigue and the heat affect run times.   Esp in the last 10K.    Staying wet(evaporative cooling) and increasing salt through the run can help times.   For me the heat off the buildings and streeets in town from mile 11 to 14 is fatiguing even with the help of the spectators.

I don't think hyponatremic is the problem becasue if many of the athletes had this condition that would mean many would literally die on the course. That is a life threatening issue if you drink too much water and don't have enough sodium. Dehydration, now that's a definite possiblity. I hope it's 85+ degrees on race day. That will be nice and cool for us Texans.

I disagree about 85+. I moved from Austin to Boulder to get away from that heat. 70 and sunny is what I'm hoping for.

Tell Jack I say "Hello" I know he doesn't remember me. Unless you say, that guy who called and asked for you to get his bike out of transition when Bastrop and Steiner Ranch was on fire two years ago. He did me a huge favorite. Lets meet up in C d'Alene. I'd like to meet you. I'll be back in Austin for Longhorn 70.3 in August.

dkahns51 - 2013-03-22 4:53 PM I was told today buy someone who rode the bike course last week that it is Rockless and ready to roll. So that means time to practice on the course

Awesome!

On the weather issue, I would love 85 at 7am, then nothing above 60 for the rest of the race.

You'd think being born and raised in the SW would give me better tolerance for the heat, but living here for 8 years has killed that. If this spring is anything like last we'll be lucky to be acclimated to anything above 60F for racing.

Based on 99% of my training so far, the perfect race would start in the dark at 4AM, 50F and slightly rainy the entire time...

rbalazs - 2013-03-22 7:50 PM

bradaskins - 2013-03-22 6:16 PM

rbalazs - 2013-03-22 5:58 PM

MRGIBBS - 2013-03-22 11:58 AM

mruss77 - 2013-03-21 5:51 PM I've been looking at last years results. It seems everyone was significantly slower in the third 6 miles of the marathon. Looking at the course elevation, there doesn't seem to be an explanation for why. Any ideas from people who have run the course?

Not sure how you guys get these quotes in your note, but I will try this and see if it works.  

For the athletes finishing under 12 hours, you are finishing at the peak heat of the day.   If there is not a breeze off the lake it can be quite warm.   Many of the athletes are borderline hyponatremic(Low blood sodium) and dehydrated at this time, and combined with fatigue and the heat affect run times.   Esp in the last 10K.    Staying wet(evaporative cooling) and increasing salt through the run can help times.   For me the heat off the buildings and streeets in town from mile 11 to 14 is fatiguing even with the help of the spectators.

I don't think hyponatremic is the problem becasue if many of the athletes had this condition that would mean many would literally die on the course. That is a life threatening issue if you drink too much water and don't have enough sodium. Dehydration, now that's a definite possiblity. I hope it's 85+ degrees on race day. That will be nice and cool for us Texans.

I disagree about 85+. I moved from Austin to Boulder to get away from that heat. 70 and sunny is what I'm hoping for.

Tell Jack I say "Hello" I know he doesn't remember me. Unless you say, that guy who called and asked for you to get his bike out of transition when Bastrop and Steiner Ranch was on fire two years ago. He did me a huge favorite. Lets meet up in C d'Alene. I'd like to meet you. I'll be back in Austin for Longhorn 70.3 in August.

That's exactly why I want 85 because all the northerners will think it's hot. Heck, after training in Austin during the summer even Kona isn't hot.

At least us northerners will be acclimated to the frigid, freezing, bone-chilling water

Your race kit looks great.....does make it feel like the race is getting close.

Congrats on the PR. That's always fun.

I hope nothing like this happens on Race day, way to stick out what sounds like a tough ride. A couple of weeks ago I had my front shifter slip during my long ride and I couldn't get into my big gear.....don't know what I would do if that happened during a race.

I was on the course last year and those were my slowest miles but according to my garmin the average pace for that section was faster than what shows on the website.

That is great.  I know how you feel about frozen instead of muddy.  We run every sunday on the trails and this weekend would have been a sloppy mess if it had been 10 degrees warmer. 

Anyone else feeling a little burned out?  I'm starting a recovery week and I'm ready to be done with the long weeks or riding in the basement and running in the late afternoons.  Actually I think I'm only slightly tired of it, but my wife and kids are completly tired of it which wears on me. 

I'm thinking about skipping a few days this week and just spending itme at home doing nothing with the family. 

Have a great weeke everyone.  Also Happy early Easter if I don't post again this week.

I had a shifter bust last year at about mile 20 during a hilly HIM. Left me with no way to shift the cassette and it was in stuck in the large cog. So I was left with only front chain ring for gear selection. Great for hills, cr@p for everything else. I think I averaged like 15mph for the rest of the course.