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 2013-10-23 2:12 PM in reply to: devilfan02 |
Veteran  820   Omaha, NE |  Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official ThreadOriginally posted by devilfan02 I'm going to be the clown who starts looking at weather 3.5 weeks before the race. Knock on wood, the very early forecast for the entire month of November looks great. Let's hope nothing crazy happens - http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/phoenix-az/85003/month/346935?mony... Why do you have to post stuff like this. Ok, I'll admit it, I'm OCD enough to check this stuff too. Looks like so far in Oct the weather points to a cooler swim with temperatures below average for the most part, however, it looks like it is suppose to be above average at least for the next week so that should help. Hopefully the trend continues. I hate cold water (below 65 for me) but on race day I don't really notice it. |
| 2013-10-23 3:47 PM in reply to: 0 |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Originally posted by cstoulil Originally posted by devilfan02 I'm going to be the clown who starts looking at weather 3.5 weeks before the race. Knock on wood, the very early forecast for the entire month of November looks great. Let's hope nothing crazy happens - http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/phoenix-az/85003/month/346935?mony... Why do you have to post stuff like this. Ok, I'll admit it, I'm OCD enough to check this stuff too. Looks like so far in Oct the weather points to a cooler swim with temperatures below average for the most part, however, it looks like it is suppose to be above average at least for the next week so that should help. Hopefully the trend continues. I hate cold water (below 65 for me) but on race day I don't really notice it. The weather has been great out here. Still a bit warm but it's been super nice in the morning/night and there's been little-to-no wind or clouds. For what it's worth, I raced Nathan's Tempe Tri (Oly) on 9/22 and Soma (HIM) on 10/20. Both swims were in TTL - * Water temp at Nathan's (9/22) - 82 degrees. * Water temp at Soma (10/20) - 70 degrees. As you can see, TTL temps drop quick but that's to be expected when the highs go from 110 to mid-80's. Assuming the temps stay similar to the Accuweather Nov forecast, which is a huge assumption, TTL temps will be great for race day. Tons of sunny weather and lows aren't that cold. Further, the temps the week before the race are pretty warm (high's of 75-79). Could be warmer than years past - maybe around 63+ degrees which is actually nice when swimming 2.4 miles in a wetsuit. Edited by devilfan02 2013-10-23 3:49 PM |
| 2013-10-23 5:28 PM in reply to: devilfan02 |
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| 2013-10-23 5:40 PM in reply to: Tryrn |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread |
I'm going crazy...| 2013-10-24 2:20 AM in reply to: devilfan02 |
New user 15 Espoo | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread @Mikeylee: just have read your words now - all the best to you and your family - I am sure, that you are doing the right thing by doing this IM for you son !! Erwin |
| 2013-10-24 8:32 AM in reply to: devilfan02 |
Expert 1224 Is this Heaven? No, it's Iowa. | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Anyone experiencing "training fatigue"? I was supposed to get on my trainer last night for about 2 hours. After 45 minutes I found myself really annoyed and struggled to get through the next 30 minutes. So I just got off the bike and grabbed a beer.
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| 2013-10-24 9:47 AM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Regular 77 Lake Orion | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I hear you big time!!! From a guy that is way behind on training due to work/family duites to several injuries, I'm having the hardest time getting anything done with quality!! I'm freaking out right now.... |
| 2013-10-24 11:54 AM in reply to: siouxcityhawk |
Regular 161 Los Angeles | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Excellent! I'd do the same, except that I'd get back on the trainer after that beer. Maybe I'd use this as an opportunity to practice peeing on my bike |
| 2013-10-24 6:22 PM in reply to: devilfan02 |
Veteran 266 Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Somebody help me stop eating! Man I can not get enough food right now, and all this candy the peeps are bringing into the office is NOT helping! I still got 10 pounds to get rid of to make race day a little easier. MikeyLee - So Sorry to hear about your news, saying prayers for you and your wife. As a fellow slow big guy I hope I see you out there and help you through anything you need! |
| 2013-10-26 8:38 AM in reply to: #4509327 |
New user 62 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Last big weekend for most, so I'll go ahead and throw the big T-word out there. How's everyone handling tapering? When are you reducing frequency, duration, intensity? Any veterans with lessons learned on too long vs too short? Did you do any threshold or tempo type workouts in the 2-3 weeks leading up to the race? Thanks |
| 2013-10-26 9:47 AM in reply to: TriManGA |
Regular 161 Los Angeles | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Got 1 more week of self flagellation to go. After that will start to reduce the volume by 50% per week (ie the week of 11/04 I will do about 7 hours of workouts, then the week of 11 will be about 3.5 hours). |
| 2013-10-26 5:57 PM in reply to: TriManGA |
New user 23 | Subject: tapering, race getting close I'm really looking forward to tapering. I'm trying to avoid getting sick ( from coworkers & wife) and injured. I had a bad calf strain two months ago, which is healed enough to get me through IMAZ. I have resumed running (with a jog/walk) and have been fine. I did feel a little pain last week, so I backed off. All I can do now is re-injure it, my overall fitness is going to have to get to the finish line. Slept 10 hrs last night, did 2/3 of the IM distance on my bike today, but I wanted to do more. Here, outside Boston, it was cold & very windy (40's-50's, gusty to 35 mph). I had a slowish ride, but the conditions were tough. Now off for a long walk. I'll keep swimming the 2.4 until I leave, and I'll do a couple more long rides this week. I'm hesitant to run or jog, the last thing I want to is aggravate my calf again. One more weekend of long rides, then it's time to taper. I can't wait until race day, I feel ready, and I'm starting to get pretty excited. This will be my first 140.6, and likely my last. I love the Phoenix area, so this is a perfect venue for me. |
| 2013-10-26 6:56 PM in reply to: GDTRFB |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close TONS of flats today out on the Beeline today. Saw at least 15+ tire casualties... The shoulder is really a mess at the moment but we should be fine on race day since we ride on the road. Also, the wind was tricky today. I now fully understand what the IMAZ vets say about the wind - it blows into you on your first climb to Shea, then completely flips by your last loop (into your face on descent from Shea). I did two loops of the course today and it was blowing pretty good into my face at the start of the second loop (8:45ish). Made the ride out to the beeline tough and the climb to Shea tougher. Long story short, be prepared for these winds and while it's usually not crazy windy, there's no protection from it in the wide open desert. |
| 2013-10-26 8:29 PM in reply to: devilfan02 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close Originally posted by devilfan02 TONS of flats today out on the Beeline today. Saw at least 15+ tire casualties... The shoulder is really a mess at the moment but we should be fine on race day since we ride on the road. Also, the wind was tricky today. I now fully understand what the IMAZ vets say about the wind - it blows into you on your first climb to Shea, then completely flips by your last loop (into your face on descent from Shea). I did two loops of the course today and it was blowing pretty good into my face at the start of the second loop (8:45ish). Made the ride out to the beeline tough and the climb to Shea tougher. Long story short, be prepared for these winds and while it's usually not crazy windy, there's no protection from it in the wide open desert. Always appreciate the great info. Can you give us a number on the wind speed? One persons windy is another persons breezy. |
| 2013-10-26 8:47 PM in reply to: KeriKadi |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close Originally posted by KeriKadi Originally posted by devilfan02 TONS of flats today out on the Beeline today. Saw at least 15+ tire casualties... The shoulder is really a mess at the moment but we should be fine on race day since we ride on the road. Also, the wind was tricky today. I now fully understand what the IMAZ vets say about the wind - it blows into you on your first climb to Shea, then completely flips by your last loop (into your face on descent from Shea). I did two loops of the course today and it was blowing pretty good into my face at the start of the second loop (8:45ish). Made the ride out to the beeline tough and the climb to Shea tougher. Long story short, be prepared for these winds and while it's usually not crazy windy, there's no protection from it in the wide open desert. Always appreciate the great info. Can you give us a number on the wind speed? One persons windy is another persons breezy. It was probably blowing 10mph. The point is that it's a constant wind and there's nothing blocking it. Nothing crazy but you can't escape it... Just be mentally prepared for a headwind on the first loop on the way out and a headwind on the way back on the third loop. |
| 2013-10-26 8:52 PM in reply to: Joeyj1974 |
Expert 839 Anaheim Hills, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Originally posted by Joeyj1974 I hear you big time!!! From a guy that is way behind on training due to work/family duites to several injuries, I'm having the hardest time getting anything done with quality!! I'm freaking out right now.... After missing the first 3 months of my training due to hospitalization, I'm feeling better about finishing now. Walk/ran LB marathon and it ended up being not as tough physically or mentally than I thought it would be after only getting in about 15 miles of training in. Slow jogged the first 17 miles before my knee started to ache so I decided to walk it in rather than do major damage before Arizona. Now after my last few workouts I'm feeling ok about making it across the line. I won't be fast but at least I'll finish. Not bad for only about 7 weeks of training for an Ironman. |
| 2013-10-27 12:05 AM in reply to: TriManGA |
Veteran 267 Avondale | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Originally posted by TriManGA Last big weekend for most, so I'll go ahead and throw the big T-word out there. How's everyone handling tapering? When are you reducing frequency, duration, intensity? Any veterans with lessons learned on too long vs too short? Did you do any threshold or tempo type workouts in the 2-3 weeks leading up to the race? Thanks I am doing my first IM, but my coach said my taper is 10 days. I am not even sure how taper is going to be configured, but I sure am looking forward to Nov 7!! ! |
| 2013-10-27 11:33 AM in reply to: devilfan02 |
| 207 | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close Originally posted by devilfan02 TONS of flats today out on the Beeline today. Saw at least 15+ tire casualties... The shoulder is really a mess at the moment but we should be fine on race day since we ride on the road. Also, the wind was tricky today. I now fully understand what the IMAZ vets say about the wind - it blows into you on your first climb to Shea, then completely flips by your last loop (into your face on descent from Shea). I did two loops of the course today and it was blowing pretty good into my face at the start of the second loop (8:45ish). Made the ride out to the beeline tough and the climb to Shea tougher. Long story short, be prepared for these winds and while it's usually not crazy windy, there's no protection from it in the wide open desert. The flats were crazy yesterday.... so much crap on the side of the road. I was lucky to escape with no causalities but i flatted 2x the day before in less than a mile on Pecos so i had already donated this week. Beeline wind was relentless on the second loop... to give an example of what it does to you... first loop out it was calm with maybe 3-5 mph breeze. with that from Tempe to the turn around my time was 1:00:07. The second loop 1:14:04. Now i am a bigger guy with a bigger profile and wind puts a serious damper on my riding but that is huge difference. Was difficult to hold 17 on the way to beeline and 14 - 15 on the way up to Shea.... just no cover from the wind other than a short time next to the final 2 miles up to the turn around. |
| 2013-10-27 1:42 PM in reply to: Tryrn |
| 128 | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close Originally posted by Tryrn Not that we can do anything about it but I appreciate the heads up about the wind. Is there typically wind on the rest of the course or only on the Beeline. Keba |
| 2013-10-27 6:56 PM in reply to: KebaNYC |
| 207 | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close From my experience the wind is usually more noticeable on beeline because there is no shelter. Around Tempe there are buildings and small "hills" on the side of the road that help block any breeze. The wind on beeline shifts all the time..... and others can chime in about this also but when the wind is blowing down the beeline you have a noticeable workload increase.... but no help on the way down because you are moving so fast. The return trip to Tempe is close to all downhill. |
| 2013-10-27 9:54 PM in reply to: Panda_Jack |
Member 45 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I'm with you on that. My knee has been compromised for three weeks and not healing. Always flares up when i run. My doc said I may need to not run on it until the race. I feel comfortable with that since I dont plan sprinting. M plan is to Jog at 12 minute miles. Nice work though on getting to this point in preparation! Originally posted by Panda_Jack Originally posted by Joeyj1974 I hear you big time!!! From a guy that is way behind on training due to work/family duites to several injuries, I'm having the hardest time getting anything done with quality!! I'm freaking out right now.... After missing the first 3 months of my training due to hospitalization, I'm feeling better about finishing now. Walk/ran LB marathon and it ended up being not as tough physically or mentally than I thought it would be after only getting in about 15 miles of training in. Slow jogged the first 17 miles before my knee started to ache so I decided to walk it in rather than do major damage before Arizona. Now after my last few workouts I'm feeling ok about making it across the line. I won't be fast but at least I'll finish. Not bad for only about 7 weeks of training for an Ironman. |
| 2013-10-29 7:11 AM in reply to: blackorcutt |
| Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Hey gang... hope training is going well for everybody (hooray for taper!) Just an invitation for everybody to join us Friday before the race The 4th Annual Ironman Arizona Slowtwitch Gathering at Tribe Multisport is happening again this year and we couldn't be more excited! Each year has been a blast so we're doing all we can to make this event even better than before... and raise even more money for our local charity the Not One More Foundation. To get an idea of the party, here's a video from last year- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMgOuSZMVZw |
| 2013-10-29 11:43 AM in reply to: TribeMultisport |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Another reason why Tribe is the best. I'm in |
| 2013-10-29 12:00 PM in reply to: Tryrn |
Member 347 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close Originally posted by Tryrn From my experience the wind is usually more noticeable on beeline because there is no shelter. Around Tempe there are buildings and small "hills" on the side of the road that help block any breeze. The wind on beeline shifts all the time..... and others can chime in about this also but when the wind is blowing down the beeline you have a noticeable workload increase.... but no help on the way down because you are moving so fast. The return trip to Tempe is close to all downhill. I agree with this and your previous post. My observations from training on the Beeline all year - * Usually have headwinds in the morning when heading east/north on the Beeline towards Shea. These winds are usually mild but the workload increase is noticeable, as Tryrn said. * These headwinds also make getting to the Beeline tough as well as we're completely exposed once we get east of the 101 on McKellips. There's nothing blocking the wind at any point from here until we get back to Tempe 1:30 later. I was only going about 14-16MPH on the McKellips segment between the 101 and Alma School last Saturday (around 8:45am) due to these stiff headwinds. * Wind will switch at some point while we're out there. On my long rides (5-7 hours), I've noticed it on my final descent heading south/west on the Beeline. It's extremely annoying because the trees won't even be moving but the pressure/headwind is very noticeable. Not only that, but your working much harder while going 3-5MPH slower than you usually do on this "fast" stretch. Just expect this to happen on your final loop and make sure you don't overcook it on your final leg to T2. * Almost the entire return leg to Tempe is downhill. You should fly your first two laps when heading back to Tempe, but your 3rd loop has a high probability of being slow at a higher workload due to the wind shifting. |
| 2013-10-29 12:50 PM in reply to: devilfan02 |
Regular 161 Los Angeles | Subject: RE: tapering, race getting close Thank you, this is extremely helpful. |
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