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strikyr - 2013-01-05 5:30 PM

So we decided to go check out some labs today at one of the kennels. My intention was just to go and look with my wife and daughter to see what type of labs they had there. I had no intention of buying a dog I swear I just wanted to look. Well we wound up seeing this beautiful chocolate lab. She is an 8 month old female with green eyes. After getting to spend a little time with her it was pretty much all over and we wound up buying her. She seems like a really good dog and we were all very happy with her. We will pick her up next weekend since we now need to try and dog proof the house as best we can this coming week. The easy part is getting the dog now the hard part is trying to name her. After much debate  and no consensus on a name I think we are going to need the entire week to figure that out. Here's our new girl.

Due to the green eyes, the name Jade comes to mind.

Beautiful dog!

 



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RunningYogini - 2013-01-05 10:00 AM

It has hurt during most of my runs since Thanksgiving.  This is the same foot that I dislocated last year.  I think my running gait has changed slightly, causing the pain.  It hurts when I walk now.  I think I'm going to lay off running for a few weeks and jump on the elliptical.  I might stab my eyeballs out on that machine, though.

Since it hurts walking, definitely don't run.  Minimize walking/standing as much as you can and/or figure out a way to remove that pressure when walking.  For instance, the right pair of shoes or sandals might help, or one with a higher or lower heel...or walking around on the heel of that foot, keeping the toes off the ground as you walk around the house....anything to minimize the amount of stress being put on it at this point in your injury cycle.  That will give you maximum heeling speed.

 

2013-01-07 9:02 AM
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trigal38 - 2013-01-07 9:21 AM

Tony nice job busting out that ride yesterday!! When you are in your IM you will be able to look back at all of the effort you put into these workouts to pull you through.

I really hope my posts are making sense today because I am in a fog. Not getting much sleep while I try to crate train and housebreak the puppy.

Matt the data you got from your rides makes a really cool comparison! Thanks for posting that.

Speaking of cycling workouts, how do you all feel when you are working at 90% of your FTP? That was the highest effort in the ride I picked yesterday but it did not feel like much of a challenge and I was consistently working above my numbers. I'm really starting to think I need to do my test over again but I don't really want to! Or I just need to learn the subtleties at different effort levels as opposed to just pounding and an easy pedal. I was also trying to keep my cadence in the 90's so maybe that made a difference?

Dina I'm looking back it right now and thinking I am going to take today off. I'm honestly so toasted from that work out yesterday when I looked at that week 6 day 1 workout I'm like there is no way I can do that that way I feel today. I'm even passing on the swim toady I am that worn out.

On the puppy front we have cleaned up a lot and did as much puppy proofing as we could. Now we need to hit Petco and start knocking down the list of things we need. We are going to bring her home on Saturday. I really would like to do it sooner but we need to make sure we have everything ready for her. I'm hoping the training and housebreaking is going to be a little less challenging than with a 6 week old pup but I'm sure it will be a challenge none the less.

2013-01-07 9:03 AM
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Thanks Samantha, I have "thestick" which is similar to the tigertail.  I'll give it a try, never thought about using it on my foot but I do use it on my calves..a LOT.  Thanks
2013-01-07 9:09 AM
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Hey Samantha how are you feeling today? It sounds like you've been falling apart on us lately. Have you had to dial back an on the 100 run in 100 days or have you been able to stay with it?

2013-01-07 9:14 AM
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Jeff thanks and I like that name. I can suggest it as we think we have a name but we are still thinking about. I never thought it would be so hard to come up with a name for a female dog. It seems like it's much easier to name a male dog as all the names that I've come up just don't seem to fit to her and would be better suited for a male. We definitely want something that seems more of a female name.


2013-01-07 9:39 AM
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Had a swim meet on Saturday.  I swam 7 events.  (the max of 5 individual and 2 relays)  The first and only one that was important to me was the 500 yd freestyle because I like to use that to gauge my fitness.  I was a little disappointed with my performance because I really felt like I was at a new level right now with my swimming.  Both from recent practices and even during the race itself.

The shoulder was a non-issue, although one of my events was the freestyle relay.  When I raced my 50 in that I only swam at about 100 yard race pace tops.  Here is a historical perspective from my past times in this same meet in the 500.  Notice how I've struggled to improve over time. 

 

'08  8:35, '09  7:56, '10  7:55, '11  7:36, '12  8:03, '13  7:33

But this year's race experience was far different than any in the past.  Usually I start to suffer early and by the halfway point I'm swimming half alive and half dead with oxygen debt.  This time the race felt like it should, comfortable at first and gradually building in pain until the last 100 was very painful but no pace drop off.

I also did the 100 breast, 200 breast, 100 back, 200 back, the breaststroke of the Medley relay.

I warmed up by running 3 miles and then swimming for 10 minutes prior to the 500....after that I didn't do any re-warmup for the rest of the events because I didn't race them hard.  I was just after left-over team points in those events.

 

 

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strikyr - 2013-01-07 10:09 AM

Hey Samantha how are you feeling today? It sounds like you've been falling apart on us lately. Have you had to dial back an on the 100 run in 100 days or have you been able to stay with it?

I KNOW!  I was actually thinking about this... I didn't have any notable problems over the summer/fall, and suddenly I'm having all these issues over the winter!  I guess it's good it's happening now?!  Maybe I need to go back and check what the difference was.... well for the swimming it's because I wasn't swimming much back then, and for the hip I'm wondering if it's just been so long since I've seen someone about it (I don't think I went at all over the summer), maybe it's time to get back in for consistent regular visits.  I am actually very much considering giving physical therapy a try again (I was not pleased the first time) and see if I'll have a better experience this time around.  My hips obviously didn't fix themselves over the past year (my hips are misaligned which is part of the problem), so for prevenatitive purposes, I am thinking to get this a bit better.

For the 100/100, it may be slightly wise to cut back on some runs, but.......... not yet!!! I will keep them all at the minimum this week, with no intensity. (unless I run into major issues of course...) I've recently been doing around 25-28 miles per week which is not something that's foreign to me, so I just don't really think that is the sole reason, although it could be the contributor.  Before starting it, I think I did a few weeks of around 20mpw.  Also for this most recent butt issue, I believe the squats I did (free motion machine) contributed to it.  I don't think the long run I did earlier in the week helped, as previous to that it had been nearly 3 weeks since I had done a long run.  Generally, based off of what my chiro/ART specialist said, I feel my butt muscles became fatigued, which could make sense based on this stuff I mentioned. 

My elbows don't hurt with typing!  But I should still try to minimize any movement which were previous irritators because I'm not completely healed quite yet!



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2013-01-07 9:54 AM
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Samantha, thanks for the update.

Jeff, you are an animal or should I say dophin!

2013-01-07 10:18 AM
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Jeff, thanks for sharing how you warmed up.  That is an area I've always pondered about- how to warm up before a triathlon. 

What does everyone do as a pre-race warmup?

2013-01-07 11:52 AM
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RunningYogini - 2013-01-06 10:04 PM

I'm on a self-imposed running ban until further notice.  (Seriously sucks)  I rode my bike yesterday and today.  My foot hurt when I got out of the saddle or when I climbed up hills a little more vigorously.  If I stayed seated and kept a constant cadence / perceived power, I was fine.  In fact, I totally dropped my husband on our ride today.  Ooops.  He's a big boy.  He knows how to get home. Embarassed

Ha, that is why my husband won't ride with me! Good luck with your foot too .

HEY!  No more man bashing or I'm going to have to come over there and take a bike ride with you two!  Wink



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DirkP - 2013-01-07 9:52 AM
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RunningYogini - 2013-01-06 10:04 PM

I'm on a self-imposed running ban until further notice.  (Seriously sucks)  I rode my bike yesterday and today.  My foot hurt when I got out of the saddle or when I climbed up hills a little more vigorously.  If I stayed seated and kept a constant cadence / perceived power, I was fine.  In fact, I totally dropped my husband on our ride today.  Ooops.  He's a big boy.  He knows how to get home. Embarassed

Ha, that is why my husband won't ride with me! Good luck with your foot too .

HEY!  No more man bashing or I'm going to have to come over there and take a bike ride with you two!  Wink

Hahahaha!!!! Tongue out

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KWDreamun - 2013-01-07 7:23 AM

2 questions for ya'll

1. The bottom center of my arch on my right foot is very tender, after I start running it loosens up...  AND the side of my ankle is really sore as if I have turned my foot over.  Sitting here right now if I put the outside of my foot down so the bottom of my foot is facing the other foot, the ankle joint on the outside is real tender, it too loosens up when I run.  Any advice on stretches or what to do?

2.  Since ya'll have been talking about cadence on the bike, I hve been thinking about getting a cadence thing.  I went to the bike shop yesterday and they had a Cateye wired and wireless.  Which one is better. 

The wired one was $60 at the bike shope and on-line like $35.  When will the bike shops figure out it is better to make a little $$$ from everyone than a lot from a few? I would be willing to pay a few $$$ more to suport the LBS, but not double.

  1. The arch of your foot could be related to the plantar fascia being strained but the ankle would seem to indicate something else.  The arch sounds similar to some of the pain I have had as I have dealt with my PF.  You could do normal stretching exercises used for the calf muscles.  One I have been doing for a short time is placing my toes against a wall, about 4-6 inches above the floor and dropping my heel to the floor and allowing that to help stretch the plantar and soleus muscles.
  2. Cadence sensors are pretty easy to install but I kind of agree with Tony.  You might check with the LBS to see if they will install it for free and take advantage if available.  Something to keep in mind about wireless is that many of them have speed indicators that work from the front wheel and if you try to use them on the back wheel they don't work well.  It seems they don't have the signal strength to make it back to the cockpit of the bike with any effective strength.  This is not the case with all of the wireless models but something to consider.
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michgirlsk - 2013-01-07 10:18 AM

Jeff, thanks for sharing how you warmed up.  That is an area I've always pondered about- how to warm up before a triathlon. 

What does everyone do as a pre-race warmup?

I've also had to put in a lot of thought about it.  I just can't be simultaneously primed for all 3 events.  In some races I have tried a triple warmup, but it takes so long with all the other pre-race setups that it's extremely difficult to fit it all in.

But when I have done it, I felt like I was back to square 1 coming out of the water anyway.  So for a while I settled on just getting in a very good swim warmup.  But I found out through my swim meets that running is a perfectly fine warmup for swimming.   You would think that the arms need a warm-up but swimming distance seems to need relatively little arm muscle such that the muscles can warm up just fine during the early part of the race.  Your mileage may vary, but my arms are never a warmup issue.  I've never felt them get fatigued or bloated with lactic acid early in any swim.

If you ever do a run/swim combo workout you may notice the same thing....just change or strip to your bathing suit and get in the pool and swim at triathlon race pace and see for yourself. 

Although I do always go through a shoulder loosening process.  This is easily done after you are called to the starting line.  I usually do some pushups.

Even when I've done a cycling warmup I don't feel that I still have my cycling legs primed once I get done swimming, so I just have to let my legs burn and yell at me for a while at the beginning of the bike segment.  I sort of  yo-yo my legs during the first mile or two.  This just means that I ride until my legs are burning then back off and soft pedal until it subsides, then do it again.

And I'm talking about short, intense races here.  Doing a longer race (either Oly or HIM depending on your level) the pace is slow enough to work in to it gently without needing any huge warmup anyway.  But warning: always do some warm-up before the swim.  Don't start the swim without your cardiovascular system primed...this may be the cause of many of the triathlon deaths that we've seen over the years.

 

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michgirlsk - 2013-01-07 11:18 AM

Jeff, thanks for sharing how you warmed up.  That is an area I've always pondered about- how to warm up before a triathlon. 

What does everyone do as a pre-race warmup?

Samantha to be honest I did very little warmup before any of my tri's this past year. I think I was so nervous and so worried about having everything I needed and set up properly I sort of neglected my warmup, it really was an after thought. After reading Jeff's post though I should really reconsider that. I know I should be doing some type of warmup though. It's good that you brought this up.

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I warm-up by peeing in my wetsuit...does that count?

No..in all seriousness, I get out there and do one loop of the swim course for short distance stuff.  Get a feel for the start of the race and get my bearings.



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jgerbodegrant - 2013-01-07 5:43 PM

I warm-up by peeing in my wetsuit...does that count?

No..in all seriousness, I get out there and do one loop of the swim course for short distance stuff.  Get a feel for the start of the race and get my bearings.

OMG....You're so funny!  All of my triathlons have not allowed swimming the course.  Total bummer.

I talked to a local Coast Guard guy (who is a rescue swimmer) last summer about this very subject.  He said that I should get used to doing several push ups before the start time.  That's all the warm up he gets in the confines of a helicopter when heading out.  I'm going to try his approach this year.

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This question is meant for the whole group but I'm really targeting Karl.

Since I am not running due to a hurt foot, I want to keep some of my leg power.  I'm turning to strength training.  Besides using the leg extension machine and hamstring curl machine, what other strength exercises can I do that will not involve my ankle joint and support strengthening the muscles used for running.

I'm riding my bike but I can't do much hammering.  It hurts.  Zone 2 efforts are my max right now.

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Tracy here are a few thing for you to try, I've never dealt with ankle issues so you can try them and if they hurt stop doing them.

Barbell squats, toes slightly pointed out, going down to at least your thighs parallel to the ground.  Then do narrow stance, toes pointed to the front, can't go as low here.  Don't go real heavy on any as form trumps weight here, you do not want to hurt your lower back.

Leg presses, narrow and wide.  Rep out here, if you put your feet higher on the rack, it has less ankle movement.

Walking lunges holding dumbbells are really good but these might hurt your ankle.

old standby, lean against a wall, feet about 2 feet from the wall (knee should make a 90 degree bend) thighs parallel to the ground and hold it.

If you can't do any of these, try this, get a bar or dumbbells but get a moderate weight for you and put it on the floor.  Now with your knees slightly bend and feet shoulder width apart pick it up keeping your back straight and stand up, keeping your knees slightly bent and put it down to where it almost touches the floor and stand back up.  Repeat 10 reps for 3 sets

I have more but try any of these and if they don't hurt do them a lot but not every day as it takes time to heal.  That is the problem I had with running, I thought you should run 2 - 3 times per week, which the Junkies finally got in my hard head that I was wrong but it is true for lifting.  I would work your legs no more than 2 - 3 times per week depending on how heavy you go.  Real heavy 2 times, light maybe 3.

Let  me know if any of these work out for you.  Good luck Wish I was there to show you in person.

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one more thing, I know wife never got the pic posted here on lacing her shoes but she did get it to upload on her page.  She is Pink Socks you can see the pic of her lacing. She was doing ultras and marathons and the top of her foot was blistering.  We are fortunate here that the running shoe store owner won Silver in the Olympics a while back and now is working closely with Florida State track team and they give lots of info back and forth.

Anyway, this cured her problems with the blistered and swelling of the top of her foot.  If you want to get directions for lacing them ask her.  I do not lace mine that way because it is ugly and I'm not having the problems she had but then again I don't do ultra's.

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jgerbodegrant - 2013-01-07 8:43 PM

I warm-up by peeing in my wetsuit...does that count?

No..in all seriousness, I get out there and do one loop of the swim course for short distance stuff.  Get a feel for the start of the race and get my bearings.

Yes - peeing in your wetsuit counts. LOL. At least that is what my dad has always told me to do once i get in the water with a wetsuit on and he has been surfing in wetsuits for over 40 years.

I think I could really benefit from a swim warm up before my wave starts - it just sucks that the women's waves are usually last, so we are waiting around for up to 10 minutes sometimes.



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KWDreamun - 2013-01-08 8:44 AM

one more thing, I know wife never got the pic posted here on lacing her shoes but she did get it to upload on her page.  She is Pink Socks you can see the pic of her lacing. She was doing ultras and marathons and the top of her foot was blistering.  We are fortunate here that the running shoe store owner won Silver in the Olympics a while back and now is working closely with Florida State track team and they give lots of info back and forth.

Anyway, this cured her problems with the blistered and swelling of the top of her foot.  If you want to get directions for lacing them ask her.  I do not lace mine that way because it is ugly and I'm not having the problems she had but then again I don't do ultra's.

K- I can post the pic on here if Pam will e-mail it to me.

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Hey Junkies-

Just checking in. I am flying home tomorrow and am so anxious to get back into my regular routine. I've been stretching regularly and doing some excercises at the park everyday where I take the kids to play, but I am itching to get some good workouts in. My grandmother broke her hip in November and is in a convalescent facility - while visiting her yesterday I got to help her with physical therapy and had a blast. I have much more respect for phyysical therapists now. I realize there are those people who are like us - desperate to recover while still training and people that are the opposite - those who no desire to get better or undergo the challenge of rehab. Time to go - before my Hubby furrows his brow cause I am on the computer when I am supposed to be on "vacation." LOL.

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RunningYogini - 2013-01-08 12:27 AM

This question is meant for the whole group but I'm really targeting Karl.

Since I am not running due to a hurt foot, I want to keep some of my leg power.  I'm turning to strength training.  Besides using the leg extension machine and hamstring curl machine, what other strength exercises can I do that will not involve my ankle joint and support strengthening the muscles used for running.

I'm riding my bike but I can't do much hammering.  It hurts.  Zone 2 efforts are my max right now.

Good idea to replace the running with something productive.  Too often an injury sidelines us and we lose the discipline or habit of that training time.

Leg extensions are very important for a runner!  Kudos.

Also consider working your hip flexors!!  There are usually a variety of cable machines in the gym and they should have a variety of attachments, at least one of which will hold your foot or ankle so you can work your hip flexor. 

See if you can work your glutes.  There may be a machine that allows you to isolate your glutes.  If not, see if you can do leg presses with your toes in the air and only your heels touching the apparatus.  That should keep your foot from being stressed (maybe).

 

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Thanks Karl and Jeff!  I appreciate the ideas!  I'm going to stay away from the leg press and squats for a couple weeks.  Karl, thank you for that PM.  You should share that ugly workout with the group!  I love it!  I'm going to do it tomorrow and I'm sure I will curse your name! Yell
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