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2016-02-28 5:37 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by crusevegas Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by crusevegas He said, "David Duke endorsed me? I didn't even know he endorsed me. I disavow." Which is weird, in light of his comments earlier today where he said, among other vague and typically slippery comments, he didn't know anything about David Duke, even though, in 2000, he specifically named him as a reason to not join the Reform Party, of which Duke was a part. I don't think Trump is a white supremacist, but I do think that he will gladly accept votes from anyone, and if it means he has to spout ethnic or religious bigotry or be cagey about his support from a white supremacist in order to be sure he hangs on their supporters' votes, he's not above doing so. Originally posted by mdg2003 Will be interesting to see how he fares with the fallout from questions about David duke/ kkk on CNN. He should have unequivocally denounced that shiite and his ilk. I predict a 24/7 media blitz in an attempt to bury him. actually, he did during the Christie endorsement, a reporter asked about it and the D said he refused or rejected the endorsement, I don't have the exact quote. Lets be honest, any politician will accept votes from anyone. Democrats thrive on getting felons to vote (which I approve of) because they overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats. The Democrats pander to the black supremacists in the Black Panther Party and gladly accept their votes. I don't in any way think the Democrats are white or black supremacists, but they do want all people to vote which I applaud. I think it's humorous to watch the media try and make the KKK thing fit their "Trump is a racist" narrative. Yet, the reality is, he has more minority support than any of the other Republican candidates. How's that add up? lol Some people, like the talking heads on CNN poses an innate ability to clearly see what they want to see rather than what is factual. I won't even get started on the stuff those people just plain lie about! Saying "Trump has more minority support than any of the other GOP candidates" is a little like saying 'Khloe is the smartest Kardashian',". . Wouldn't, "which Kardashian has the biggest a$$" be a more appropriate analogy? Just sayin'. |
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2016-02-28 6:11 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by crusevegas Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by crusevegas He said, "David Duke endorsed me? I didn't even know he endorsed me. I disavow." Which is weird, in light of his comments earlier today where he said, among other vague and typically slippery comments, he didn't know anything about David Duke, even though, in 2000, he specifically named him as a reason to not join the Reform Party, of which Duke was a part. I don't think Trump is a white supremacist, but I do think that he will gladly accept votes from anyone, and if it means he has to spout ethnic or religious bigotry or be cagey about his support from a white supremacist in order to be sure he hangs on their supporters' votes, he's not above doing so. Originally posted by mdg2003 Will be interesting to see how he fares with the fallout from questions about David duke/ kkk on CNN. He should have unequivocally denounced that shiite and his ilk. I predict a 24/7 media blitz in an attempt to bury him. actually, he did during the Christie endorsement, a reporter asked about it and the D said he refused or rejected the endorsement, I don't have the exact quote. Lets be honest, any politician will accept votes from anyone. Democrats thrive on getting felons to vote (which I approve of) because they overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats. The Democrats pander to the black supremacists in the Black Panther Party and gladly accept their votes. I don't in any way think the Democrats are white or black supremacists, but they do want all people to vote which I applaud. I think it's humorous to watch the media try and make the KKK thing fit their "Trump is a racist" narrative. Yet, the reality is, he has more minority support than any of the other Republican candidates. How's that add up? lol Some people, like the talking heads on CNN poses an innate ability to clearly see what they want to see rather than what is factual. I won't even get started on the stuff those people just plain lie about! Agree, faint praise indeed. Saying "Trump has more minority support than any of the other GOP candidates" is a little like saying 'Khloe is the smartest Kardashian',". . |
2016-02-28 7:08 PM in reply to: #5138650 |
Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: Trump Tony, I raised one eyebrow (metaphorically, because I can't physically do it!) when I read your comment about Hispanics not caring about race when it comes to Rubio. So, I thought to myself, what race does? The answer I came up with is (when it comes to national politics) none. Communicators win regardless of race. Obama won 95% of black votes...only about 3 to 4% different from Kerry and Gore. Rubio is losing to Trump with hispanics and Carson loses to Trump with blacks. That is pretty cool when ya think about it, eh? |
2016-02-28 7:56 PM in reply to: ChineseDemocracy |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy Tony, I raised one eyebrow (metaphorically, because I can't physically do it!) when I read your comment about Hispanics not caring about race when it comes to Rubio. So, I thought to myself, what race does? The answer I came up with is (when it comes to national politics) none. Communicators win regardless of race. Obama won 95% of black votes...only about 3 to 4% different from Kerry and Gore. Rubio is losing to Trump with hispanics and Carson loses to Trump with blacks. That is pretty cool when ya think about it, eh? I was thinking the same thing as I was reading your comments. It is pretty cool. |
2016-02-29 9:37 AM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: Trump John Oliver addressed Donald Trump on his show last night. It's hilarious. Well, Tony might not think so. I already bought my "Make Donald Drumf Again" hat. Last Week Tonight ETA: It's HBO, so it's a little bit NSFW with the language. Edited by Bob Loblaw 2016-02-29 9:37 AM |
2016-02-29 9:40 AM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by Bob Loblaw John Oliver addressed Donald Trump on his show last night. It's hilarious. Well, Tony might not think so. I already bought my "Make Donald Drumf Again" hat. Last Week Tonight ETA: It's HBO, so it's a little bit NSFW with the language. Believe it or not I do find the humor in many of his detractors. I'll have to watch this one later, I don't have enough time at work. |
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2016-02-29 9:43 AM in reply to: ChineseDemocracy |
Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy Originally posted by crusevegas Yes cruse, but it's true about Fox, CNN, and MSNBC...in fact, that's part of the reason Trump is doing so well because he's called them all out on it...yes, at times when the assertion isn't true, but hey, that's politics. Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by crusevegas He said, "David Duke endorsed me? I didn't even know he endorsed me. I disavow." Which is weird, in light of his comments earlier today where he said, among other vague and typically slippery comments, he didn't know anything about David Duke, even though, in 2000, he specifically named him as a reason to not join the Reform Party, of which Duke was a part. I don't think Trump is a white supremacist, but I do think that he will gladly accept votes from anyone, and if it means he has to spout ethnic or religious bigotry or be cagey about his support from a white supremacist in order to be sure he hangs on their supporters' votes, he's not above doing so. Originally posted by mdg2003 Will be interesting to see how he fares with the fallout from questions about David duke/ kkk on CNN. He should have unequivocally denounced that shiite and his ilk. I predict a 24/7 media blitz in an attempt to bury him. actually, he did during the Christie endorsement, a reporter asked about it and the D said he refused or rejected the endorsement, I don't have the exact quote. Lets be honest, any politician will accept votes from anyone. Democrats thrive on getting felons to vote (which I approve of) because they overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats. The Democrats pander to the black supremacists in the Black Panther Party and gladly accept their votes. I don't in any way think the Democrats are white or black supremacists, but they do want all people to vote which I applaud. I think it's humorous to watch the media try and make the KKK thing fit their "Trump is a racist" narrative. Yet, the reality is, he has more minority support than any of the other Republican candidates. How's that add up? lol Some people, like the talking heads on CNN poses an innate ability to clearly see what they want to see rather than what is factual. I won't even get started on the stuff those people just plain lie about! i was watching CNN when I replied to this, to hear them talking you would have thought Trump had just accepted an honorary membership in the KKK. For those with that innate listening ability, there are no words or actions the D speak that would appease them. I don't disagree with your assertion on the other networks. |
2016-02-29 9:51 AM in reply to: crusevegas |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by crusevegas Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy Originally posted by crusevegas Yes cruse, but it's true about Fox, CNN, and MSNBC...in fact, that's part of the reason Trump is doing so well because he's called them all out on it...yes, at times when the assertion isn't true, but hey, that's politics. Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by crusevegas He said, "David Duke endorsed me? I didn't even know he endorsed me. I disavow." Which is weird, in light of his comments earlier today where he said, among other vague and typically slippery comments, he didn't know anything about David Duke, even though, in 2000, he specifically named him as a reason to not join the Reform Party, of which Duke was a part. I don't think Trump is a white supremacist, but I do think that he will gladly accept votes from anyone, and if it means he has to spout ethnic or religious bigotry or be cagey about his support from a white supremacist in order to be sure he hangs on their supporters' votes, he's not above doing so. Originally posted by mdg2003 Will be interesting to see how he fares with the fallout from questions about David duke/ kkk on CNN. He should have unequivocally denounced that shiite and his ilk. I predict a 24/7 media blitz in an attempt to bury him. actually, he did during the Christie endorsement, a reporter asked about it and the D said he refused or rejected the endorsement, I don't have the exact quote. Lets be honest, any politician will accept votes from anyone. Democrats thrive on getting felons to vote (which I approve of) because they overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats. The Democrats pander to the black supremacists in the Black Panther Party and gladly accept their votes. I don't in any way think the Democrats are white or black supremacists, but they do want all people to vote which I applaud. I think it's humorous to watch the media try and make the KKK thing fit their "Trump is a racist" narrative. Yet, the reality is, he has more minority support than any of the other Republican candidates. How's that add up? lol Some people, like the talking heads on CNN poses an innate ability to clearly see what they want to see rather than what is factual. I won't even get started on the stuff those people just plain lie about! i was watching CNN when I replied to this, to hear them talking you would have thought Trump had just accepted an honorary membership in the KKK. For those with that innate listening ability, there are no words or actions the D speak that would appease them. I don't disagree with your assertion on the other networks. It's just like when they tried to make him anti disability because he waved his arms in the air when he described a reporter. The funny part of it all is that these things work with normal politicians because they bow down to the accusations and apologize profusely for the next 30 days. Trump just gives them the proverbial middle finger and moves on. |
2016-02-29 3:53 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York Interesting... I'm under no illusion that Trump is going to carry NY State, but polls and stories like this do reinforce the notion that Trump can draw a lot of support away from the Democrats. There's no question that he'll get the highest Union/Labor votes nationally than any recent republicans because of his jobs and immigration stance. I'm not saying he'll win those categories, but he'll pull a lot of votes. Now on the flip side, I think I can count on one finger the number of Republicans that Hillary can convince to cross over. |
2016-03-01 4:52 AM in reply to: 0 |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York Interesting... I'm under no illusion that Trump is going to carry NY State, but polls and stories like this do reinforce the notion that Trump can draw a lot of support away from the Democrats. There's no question that he'll get the highest Union/Labor votes nationally than any recent republicans because of his jobs and immigration stance. I'm not saying he'll win those categories, but he'll pull a lot of votes. Now on the flip side, I think I can count on one finger the number of Republicans that Hillary can convince to cross over. Pfft. I wouldn't believe anything in that conservative rag. Seriously, Tony, did you even read the article? It alludes to unspecified, mysterious "confidential polling data", glosses over the fact that the polls only show Drumpf having a shot at NY if Bloomberg enters the race (which is t likely), and mentions him winning Long Island, which has pretty large Republican areas. There's not a single attributed quote or bona fide source in the entire piece. Articles like this are clickbait. Nothing more. I swear, Tony, I'll never understand how you can methodically parse an entire scientific study on climate change, find one sentence that smells a little off to you and dismiss the entire study, but then embrace the blatantly one sided pseudo-journalistic crap you read on infowars and the Post as gospel. Edited by jmk-brooklyn 2016-03-01 5:07 AM |
2016-03-01 6:56 AM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood Pfft. I wouldn't believe anything in that conservative rag. Seriously, Tony, did you even read the article? It alludes to unspecified, mysterious "confidential polling data", glosses over the fact that the polls only show Drumpf having a shot at NY if Bloomberg enters the race (which is t likely), and mentions him winning Long Island, which has pretty large Republican areas. There's not a single attributed quote or bona fide source in the entire piece. Articles like this are clickbait. Nothing more. I swear, Tony, I'll never understand how you can methodically parse an entire scientific study on climate change, find one sentence that smells a little off to you and dismiss the entire study, but then embrace the blatantly one sided pseudo-journalistic crap you read on infowars and the Post as gospel. Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York Interesting... I'm under no illusion that Trump is going to carry NY State, but polls and stories like this do reinforce the notion that Trump can draw a lot of support away from the Democrats. There's no question that he'll get the highest Union/Labor votes nationally than any recent republicans because of his jobs and immigration stance. I'm not saying he'll win those categories, but he'll pull a lot of votes. Now on the flip side, I think I can count on one finger the number of Republicans that Hillary can convince to cross over. Apparently you missed the part where I said he's not going to win New York. lol |
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2016-03-01 8:46 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood Pfft. I wouldn't believe anything in that conservative rag. Seriously, Tony, did you even read the article? It alludes to unspecified, mysterious "confidential polling data", glosses over the fact that the polls only show Drumpf having a shot at NY if Bloomberg enters the race (which is t likely), and mentions him winning Long Island, which has pretty large Republican areas. There's not a single attributed quote or bona fide source in the entire piece. Articles like this are clickbait. Nothing more. I swear, Tony, I'll never understand how you can methodically parse an entire scientific study on climate change, find one sentence that smells a little off to you and dismiss the entire study, but then embrace the blatantly one sided pseudo-journalistic crap you read on infowars and the Post as gospel. Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York Interesting... I'm under no illusion that Trump is going to carry NY State, but polls and stories like this do reinforce the notion that Trump can draw a lot of support away from the Democrats. There's no question that he'll get the highest Union/Labor votes nationally than any recent republicans because of his jobs and immigration stance. I'm not saying he'll win those categories, but he'll pull a lot of votes. Now on the flip side, I think I can count on one finger the number of Republicans that Hillary can convince to cross over. Apparently you missed the part where I said he's not going to win New York. lol So if you put such little value on the article, why post it at all? |
2016-03-01 8:46 AM in reply to: ejshowers |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Trump Drumpf for Despot 2016 |
2016-03-01 9:04 AM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by tuwood So if you put such little value on the article, why post it at all? Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood Pfft. I wouldn't believe anything in that conservative rag. Seriously, Tony, did you even read the article? It alludes to unspecified, mysterious "confidential polling data", glosses over the fact that the polls only show Drumpf having a shot at NY if Bloomberg enters the race (which is t likely), and mentions him winning Long Island, which has pretty large Republican areas. There's not a single attributed quote or bona fide source in the entire piece. Articles like this are clickbait. Nothing more. I swear, Tony, I'll never understand how you can methodically parse an entire scientific study on climate change, find one sentence that smells a little off to you and dismiss the entire study, but then embrace the blatantly one sided pseudo-journalistic crap you read on infowars and the Post as gospel. Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York Interesting... I'm under no illusion that Trump is going to carry NY State, but polls and stories like this do reinforce the notion that Trump can draw a lot of support away from the Democrats. There's no question that he'll get the highest Union/Labor votes nationally than any recent republicans because of his jobs and immigration stance. I'm not saying he'll win those categories, but he'll pull a lot of votes. Now on the flip side, I think I can count on one finger the number of Republicans that Hillary can convince to cross over. Apparently you missed the part where I said he's not going to win New York. lol It was a window into a small section of Trump support from a typically Democratic area where the other Republican candidates have very little. You guys keep saying Trump is the worse candidate for the Republicans and all the others will fair better vs. Hillary, but the data in this article doesn't support that notion. It also mentioned that without Bloomberg he still beat Hillary and substantially out-polled the other Republicans. So, it's incorrect to state that it's only with Bloomberg in the race. All we have now are polls and "feelings" so that's why I posted it. It's another poll for a section of NYC that typically goes heavy Democrat. Sure, it's a more conservative area of NYC as a whole, so that's why I said that it won't translate into a statewide win, but it gives a window into his support from the other side. |
2016-03-01 9:13 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by tuwood So if you put such little value on the article, why post it at all? Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood Pfft. I wouldn't believe anything in that conservative rag. Seriously, Tony, did you even read the article? It alludes to unspecified, mysterious "confidential polling data", glosses over the fact that the polls only show Drumpf having a shot at NY if Bloomberg enters the race (which is t likely), and mentions him winning Long Island, which has pretty large Republican areas. There's not a single attributed quote or bona fide source in the entire piece. Articles like this are clickbait. Nothing more. I swear, Tony, I'll never understand how you can methodically parse an entire scientific study on climate change, find one sentence that smells a little off to you and dismiss the entire study, but then embrace the blatantly one sided pseudo-journalistic crap you read on infowars and the Post as gospel. Hillary could lose to Trump in Democratic New York Interesting... I'm under no illusion that Trump is going to carry NY State, but polls and stories like this do reinforce the notion that Trump can draw a lot of support away from the Democrats. There's no question that he'll get the highest Union/Labor votes nationally than any recent republicans because of his jobs and immigration stance. I'm not saying he'll win those categories, but he'll pull a lot of votes. Now on the flip side, I think I can count on one finger the number of Republicans that Hillary can convince to cross over. Apparently you missed the part where I said he's not going to win New York. lol It was a window into a small section of Trump support from a typically Democratic area where the other Republican candidates have very little. You guys keep saying Trump is the worse candidate for the Republicans and all the others will fair better vs. Hillary, but the data in this article doesn't support that notion. It also mentioned that without Bloomberg he still beat Hillary and substantially out-polled the other Republicans. So, it's incorrect to state that it's only with Bloomberg in the race. All we have now are polls and "feelings" so that's why I posted it. It's another poll for a section of NYC that typically goes heavy Democrat. Sure, it's a more conservative area of NYC as a whole, so that's why I said that it won't translate into a statewide win, but it gives a window into his support from the other side. Did you go the step further and actually look at the poll? The article, of course, failed to mention that the polling error was as high as +/-5.7% |
2016-03-01 9:27 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Elite 3972 Reno | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by bootygirl my husband an I are looking into living in his country of origin if Trump wins. I have googled how to bring my dog and cat there, and he has renewed communications with some professional contacts. Maybe I will start a guesthouse for Americans seeking asylum. I have no comment either way on you and your husband leaving if that is your choice.....but can I ask, asylum from what?? I'm just trying to understand how you came to the idea that you'd need/want to leave. my husband is Muslim. if my fellow Americans elect such a hate monger, we won't want to be living here to see how far it goes. Asylum from the hate. |
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2016-03-01 10:32 AM in reply to: bootygirl |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by bootygirl Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by bootygirl my husband an I are looking into living in his country of origin if Trump wins. I have googled how to bring my dog and cat there, and he has renewed communications with some professional contacts. Maybe I will start a guesthouse for Americans seeking asylum. I have no comment either way on you and your husband leaving if that is your choice.....but can I ask, asylum from what?? I'm just trying to understand how you came to the idea that you'd need/want to leave. my husband is Muslim. if my fellow Americans elect such a hate monger, we won't want to be living here to see how far it goes. Asylum from the hate. My only recommendation is to not feed into the fear that the media and everyone else likes to pump. If people around you are treating you and your husband with hate, then by all means move. If a politician is saying things that are hateful then who cares. Trump can say he wants to do anything and everything, but we still have a constitution that protects everyone no matter what their race or religion. Americans are genuinely concerned with radical Islam. You and I both know that it's a real problem around the world. Trump had a crazy solution to ban muslims entering America which fed into that concern. I personally think it is a bit silly. A reasonable (but equally radical) solution would be to shut down all immigration until we as a nation are comfortable with the vetting process. Certainly good people can agree and disagree with it as a solution. You can do what you want and live where you want, that's your choice to make. I have been to many Muslim countries around the world and they were a lot less tolerant of me being a non-muslim than we in America are of people who are. I'm not sure where you would be heading, but you might be trading one perceived fear for a legitimate one. It may be way better, who knows. Either way, I wish you guys well no matter where you go. |
2016-03-01 10:41 AM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by bootygirl Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by bootygirl my husband an I are looking into living in his country of origin if Trump wins. I have googled how to bring my dog and cat there, and he has renewed communications with some professional contacts. Maybe I will start a guesthouse for Americans seeking asylum. I have no comment either way on you and your husband leaving if that is your choice.....but can I ask, asylum from what?? I'm just trying to understand how you came to the idea that you'd need/want to leave. my husband is Muslim. if my fellow Americans elect such a hate monger, we won't want to be living here to see how far it goes. Asylum from the hate. I see, thanks. Politics are a funny thing. My family is friends with quite a few folks who are Muslim, including a few that are counted among my children's absolute best friends. All of them are Bosnian's who were relocated into our area. In the times we've talked about politics, I'd say about 1/3 of them favor Trump for the next President. I'd vote for Trump over Clinton, but I'd stand and fight next to any Muslim who was discriminated against just for their religious beliefs. I doubt I'm alone. Edited by Left Brain 2016-03-01 10:45 AM |
2016-03-01 10:46 AM in reply to: bootygirl |
Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by bootygirl Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by bootygirl my husband an I are looking into living in his country of origin if Trump wins. I have googled how to bring my dog and cat there, and he has renewed communications with some professional contacts. Maybe I will start a guesthouse for Americans seeking asylum. I have no comment either way on you and your husband leaving if that is your choice.....but can I ask, asylum from what?? I'm just trying to understand how you came to the idea that you'd need/want to leave. my husband is Muslim. if my fellow Americans elect such a hate monger, we won't want to be living here to see how far it goes. Asylum from the hate. What country are you considering moving to? What policies or what has he said or done that has you wanting to move out of the USA? |
2016-03-01 11:17 AM in reply to: crusevegas |
2016-03-01 11:30 AM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by mdg2003 Just voted today in Tejas primary. Did not vote for Trump. /kick hehe I am expecting Cruz to win Texas. Ironically it would help Trump in the long run because Cruz would stay in the race longer with a win which prevents Rubio from getting any of his supporters as the lone "not Trump" candidate left if he drops out. Rubio will likely stick around till the end in the hopes of a brokered convention or some other shenanigans. On a side note, I considered signing up to be a delegate for Trump. One of my bucket list items is to be a delegate for a presidential candidate, but I didn't realize how much of a PITA it is. I have to file to run as a delegate with the election commission and be sworn in. They then have regional and statewide mini-campaigns that you have to go through with multiple cuts. |
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2016-03-02 9:23 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump You guys still think he doesn't have a chance at the nomination? Looks like some bookmakers are already paying out for his win. Hey, at least it will be entertaining. |
2016-03-02 10:22 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood You guys still think he doesn't have a chance at the nomination? Looks like some bookmakers are already paying out for his win. Hey, at least it will be entertaining. Oh he has chance - a very good one - but it is not a done deal. He has only won about 34% of the R vote so far across all states, so hardly a mandate yet. The RNC can also change rules at the last minute if they choose. If Trump stays below 40%, I would expect to see a fight at the convention. |
2016-03-02 2:12 PM in reply to: ejshowers |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by tuwood Oh he has chance - a very good one - but it is not a done deal. He has only won about 34% of the R vote so far across all states, so hardly a mandate yet. The RNC can also change rules at the last minute if they choose. If Trump stays below 40%, I would expect to see a fight at the convention. You guys still think he doesn't have a chance at the nomination? Looks like some bookmakers are already paying out for his win. Hey, at least it will be entertaining. It was a few months back I saw an interview with Reince Preibus where he said there won't be any fight at the convention unless there are two or three people that are very close in delegates. If Trump comes in with a non-majority, but a huge lead it will be his period. I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what he was saying. The reason being is that if Trump comes in with a big lead, but not a majority/mandate and they put a Rubio or Kasich in place (which they can technically do) they will completely alienate the Trump supporters and lose big time. So, it's kind of a catch 22 for the RNC. I do believe that they really do want to put in somebody else, but they recognize that they really can't.
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2016-03-02 4:17 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Subject: RE: Trump Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by ejshowers Originally posted by tuwood Oh he has chance - a very good one - but it is not a done deal. He has only won about 34% of the R vote so far across all states, so hardly a mandate yet. The RNC can also change rules at the last minute if they choose. If Trump stays below 40%, I would expect to see a fight at the convention. You guys still think he doesn't have a chance at the nomination? Looks like some bookmakers are already paying out for his win. Hey, at least it will be entertaining. It was a few months back I saw an interview with Reince Preibus where he said there won't be any fight at the convention unless there are two or three people that are very close in delegates. If Trump comes in with a non-majority, but a huge lead it will be his period. I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what he was saying. The reason being is that if Trump comes in with a big lead, but not a majority/mandate and they put a Rubio or Kasich in place (which they can technically do) they will completely alienate the Trump supporters and lose big time. So, it's kind of a catch 22 for the RNC. I do believe that they really do want to put in somebody else, but they recognize that they really can't.
It will be interesting to see. I think they may try something in an effort to force his VP pick. The RNC has been cutting it's nose off to spite the face for years, it wouldn't surprise me if they do it again. But you are correct, they won't have a chance in hell of getting anyone else elected if they do. |
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