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2012-09-04 12:32 PM
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I was out of town for a wedding over labor day weekend.  I skipped a 5 hour ride and a long swim, but was able to put in a nice 20 mile run.  I'll accept the missed bike as a good time to welcome some extra recovery before hitting it hard for the next two months.


2012-09-04 1:09 PM
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Had a good weekend....70 mile ride and 2 mile T-run on Saturday and then 11 mile run on Sunday. I'm doing Rev 3 Cedar Point HIM this weekend...goal is to really dial in my nutrition which I have yet to do during a race (can never get in enough!) After that there is nothing besides some heavy training weeks standing between me and IMAZ. Scary!!
2012-09-05 8:34 AM
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Hey sbux, I too am doing Rev3 this weekend, then onward to AZ.  I'm already cold just thinking about how cold it will be!  -- both races that is. 
2012-09-05 8:57 AM
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I did a 50 mile bike ride Saturday.  That was all I could get in before my son's soccer game.  I did do a short run later in the day.  Sunday was a 9 mile run and then Monday I did the run leg of a sprint relay and our team came in first!  That was fun.  

I'm still trying to decide whether I want to do a HIM the last weekend of September or just focus on training.  I've done several HIMs over the years and I'm using the same nutrition I've used for those and for IMFL, so I don't feel like I need to use a HIM to dial in nutrition.  

I'm also thinking about signing up for a couple of organized century rides in October.  A catered training day is never a bad thing.  Fitting it in with my son's soccer is where the problems come up.  The good thing is that a lot of his games are at 5pm this year, which gives me plenty of time for those long rides.

2012-09-05 10:12 AM
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I've got a HIM this Saturday, which I'm having serious second thoughts about! I don't feel like I 'need' it; I had a decent one in the spring, I know what to expect, and I've settled on my nutrition. Plus, it's a hilly course at 6,000'+ elevation, which I'm not exactly trained for! I guess I'm relieved of any pressure to PR, because that definitely ain't happening! 

I think I'm also going to do a couple of century rides in the next couple of months; it just seems like a more pleasant way to get the mileage in than riding solo!

2012-09-05 10:31 AM
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Yeah, soccer jacked up my plans for IMAZ weekend.  I coach a club team and our last game is scheduled for Saturday the 17th.

Does anyone know if you can have someone else drop off your bike and transition bags or is it a mandatory athlete thing?



2012-09-05 10:37 AM
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My wife and I drove to Tempe for the Labor Day weekend to check out the area and train on the course. Now that I know what it will look like, the race is definitely starting to feel real now!

First of all, I'm sure glad this race is in November. It was crazy HOT (as usual) this weekend. I ran 9 miles on the run course on Saturday evening and even after the sun was down, the air was just hot and heavy. Sunday morning, I did 71 miles out on the Beeline Highway. By the time I was finishing up around 11am, I was dying. It was interesting trying to control heart rate in that heat as well.

I rode out to the Beeline 5-6 miles from the hotel and rode three loops (71 miles in total). The course was pretty fast, but the steady climb up to the turnaround point on Beeline is taxing by the third loop. I noticed the wind changed directions by the end too. The rode it itself was fairly smooth, however there was a lot of debris in the shoulder. My wife and I both ended up with flats from glass on the road. Hoping they keep the rode as clean as possible during the race. Also, there's no real landmarks out there other than the smell of the landfill about halfway to the turnaround ;-).

The run course seems to be extremely flat, especially around Tempe Town Lake. The area down there is nice and I'm looking forward to running it in November.

With that out of the way, I'm now focused on Orangeman 70.3 September 23rd. Then, it's 8 weeks to IMAZ from there!

 

2012-09-05 1:14 PM
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For those of you on a plan.  What's your long swim/bike/run up to these days?

I don't usually do this because my numbers are usually whoafully behind, but I'm at 3200 yards, 4 hour bike just done, and I have 2 hours of running tomorrow to hit a new high for this plan.

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Yeah, soccer jacked up my plans for IMAZ weekend.  I coach a club team and our last game is scheduled for Saturday the 17th.

Does anyone know if you can have someone else drop off your bike and transition bags or is it a mandatory athlete thing?

 

Yikes!!  My son plays on a club team and his last game is the first or second weekend of November.  Can someone else coach for you that last game?  We have sub coaches a lot during tournaments since most coaches have 2 to 3 teams.  How far away do you live?

I'm pretty sure you have to be the one to drop off your stuff.  They check to make sure you have the wristband on.  Not sure if someone could sneak in with two bikes or not.

2012-09-05 1:36 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 1:14 PM

For those of you on a plan.  What's your long swim/bike/run up to these days?

I don't usually do this because my numbers are usually whoafully behind, but I'm at 3200 yards, 4 hour bike just done, and I have 2 hours of running tomorrow to hit a new high for this plan.

 

Using Be Iron Fit (Fink) competitive plan. In a similar place - 2-3 swims per week at around 3000-3500m. 4 hour bike on Saturdays (brick with 45 min run afterwards). 2 hour long run on Sunday will be a new high (also doing a 1:15 ride that day).

2012-09-05 1:45 PM
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bencoy - 2012-09-05 8:37 AM

My wife and I drove to Tempe for the Labor Day weekend to check out the area and train on the course. Now that I know what it will look like, the race is definitely starting to feel real now!

First of all, I'm sure glad this race is in November. It was crazy HOT (as usual) this weekend. I ran 9 miles on the run course on Saturday evening and even after the sun was down, the air was just hot and heavy. Sunday morning, I did 71 miles out on the Beeline Highway. By the time I was finishing up around 11am, I was dying. It was interesting trying to control heart rate in that heat as well.

I rode out to the Beeline 5-6 miles from the hotel and rode three loops (71 miles in total). The course was pretty fast, but the steady climb up to the turnaround point on Beeline is taxing by the third loop. I noticed the wind changed directions by the end too. The rode it itself was fairly smooth, however there was a lot of debris in the shoulder. My wife and I both ended up with flats from glass on the road. Hoping they keep the rode as clean as possible during the race. Also, there's no real landmarks out there other than the smell of the landfill about halfway to the turnaround ;-).

The run course seems to be extremely flat, especially around Tempe Town Lake. The area down there is nice and I'm looking forward to running it in November.

With that out of the way, I'm now focused on Orangeman 70.3 September 23rd. Then, it's 8 weeks to IMAZ from there!

 

Can you describe the "climb" some more?  My impression is that it is more of a grinder than a climb, but after the miles it can add up.  Are we talking big ring the whole time (assuming wind isn't a big issue)? or did you drop to small ring at any point?

Thanks.



2012-09-05 2:02 PM
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My wife and I drove to Tempe for the Labor Day weekend to check out the area and train on the course. Now that I know what it will look like, the race is definitely starting to feel real now!

First of all, I'm sure glad this race is in November. It was crazy HOT (as usual) this weekend. I ran 9 miles on the run course on Saturday evening and even after the sun was down, the air was just hot and heavy. Sunday morning, I did 71 miles out on the Beeline Highway. By the time I was finishing up around 11am, I was dying. It was interesting trying to control heart rate in that heat as well.

I rode out to the Beeline 5-6 miles from the hotel and rode three loops (71 miles in total). The course was pretty fast, but the steady climb up to the turnaround point on Beeline is taxing by the third loop. I noticed the wind changed directions by the end too. The rode it itself was fairly smooth, however there was a lot of debris in the shoulder. My wife and I both ended up with flats from glass on the road. Hoping they keep the rode as clean as possible during the race. Also, there's no real landmarks out there other than the smell of the landfill about halfway to the turnaround ;-).

The run course seems to be extremely flat, especially around Tempe Town Lake. The area down there is nice and I'm looking forward to running it in November.

With that out of the way, I'm now focused on Orangeman 70.3 September 23rd. Then, it's 8 weeks to IMAZ from there!

 

Can you describe the "climb" some more?  My impression is that it is more of a grinder than a climb, but after the miles it can add up.  Are we talking big ring the whole time (assuming wind isn't a big issue)? or did you drop to small ring at any point?

Thanks.

It's a false flat. Definitely in the big ring the whole time. I just noticed that the first half of the out and back before the turnaround at Shea seemed to get much tougher by the third loop...like you said, a grinder more than a "climb".

2012-09-05 2:03 PM
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Kido - 2012-09-05 2:14 PM

For those of you on a plan.  What's your long swim/bike/run up to these days?

I don't usually do this because my numbers are usually whoafully behind, but I'm at 3200 yards, 4 hour bike just done, and I have 2 hours of running tomorrow to hit a new high for this plan.

Im at 3500m swims that started this week, just did a 4hour ride with a 45 min run brick this past saturday and have been running 2 hour long runs the past 2 weeks.....though I had to increase the runs becasue I need to rack up some miles before my HIM this weekend

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Kido - 2012-09-05 2:14 PM

For those of you on a plan.  What's your long swim/bike/run up to these days?

I don't usually do this because my numbers are usually whoafully behind, but I'm at 3200 yards, 4 hour bike just done, and I have 2 hours of running tomorrow to hit a new high for this plan.

Im at 3500m swims that started this week, just did a 4hour ride with a 45 min run brick this past saturday and have been running 2 hour long runs the past 2 weeks.....though I had to increase the runs becasue I need to rack up some miles before my HIM this weekend

My training plan and calendar that shows what is scheduled is public, you can feel free to check it out.  Essentially though my long swims right now top out at about 4000 yards, my long bike is supposed to be 76 miles (today actually, but I'm trying to do extra so I'm way ahead) and my long run is only 11-12 miles I think, again I'm doing extra running as well so instead of the 10 I was supposed to do last weekend I did 13.  I have the feeling that my plan is very conservative and geared towards getting me across the finish line but not with a great time.  I'm trying to do a little better than "just finish" so I'm hitting the bike hard in order to set myself up for a less painful 26 mile death march.

2012-09-05 5:22 PM
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FWIW, I think it's always a deathmarch...  I'm thinking this time around, it won't be much different.
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Oh yeah, speaking of mileage, I came over to this thread to report that I successfully rode my first century today, 101 miles at an 18.5mph average.  I'm shooting for a 6 hour bike leg in Arizona, which is 18.6 mph, so I'm thrilled with the ride as I felt I did it at a little less than full effort, as if I was saving something for a long run afterwards.  And there's plenty of time until the race to do a few more of these and add in a 30-60 minute brick run afterwards.


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Can someone else coach for you that last game?

Luckily I have two great assistants who can handle it, but you know how it is, you don't want to miss even one game!  I'll get over it.  I emailed them to see if I could work something out, but I don't have high hopes.  Best of luck with your season!

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Kido - 2012-09-05 11:14 AM

For those of you on a plan.  What's your long swim/bike/run up to these days?

I don't usually do this because my numbers are usually whoafully behind, but I'm at 3200 yards, 4 hour bike just done, and I have 2 hours of running tomorrow to hit a new high for this plan.

 

You doing the HIM to IM Bridge plan from BT?  That's the plan I'm using, which has a 2 hr run tomorrow and 4 hr bike ride last weekend.

2012-09-06 7:22 AM
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I need some advice. I have the Rev 3 HIM on Sunday. It will be my second HIM of the season and the goal is to get nutrition dialed in, not really going for time. I'd say a B race.

I woke up yesterday morning with a terrible sore throat, it was so painful. This then developed through the day into a full blown cold. I took the day off work and napped most of the day. I'm still sick today but feeling a little better. No fever, just achy, congested, and some sneezing. I have absolutely zero appetite though and have been surviving on a little chicken noodle soup.

What should I do about Sunday? If I am feeling better should I race? Or do you think that would just set me up to get sicker and not recover? Arizona is obviously the primary goal and I don't want to do anything to jeopardize that. I'd be so sad to miss the race and wanted to do it as a confidence booster that I am on track for IMAZ but if I am not feeling 100% it might do the opposite.

What would you guys do?

2012-09-06 7:52 AM
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I would rest today and see how you feel tomorrow. Drink lots of fluids. If you feel good do an aquabike...if you feel normal...do the race. If its a warm up to IMAZ and you are sick IMO its not worth setting yourself back.
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croyston - 2012-09-05 7:48 PM
Kido - 2012-09-05 11:14 AM

For those of you on a plan.  What's your long swim/bike/run up to these days?

I don't usually do this because my numbers are usually whoafully behind, but I'm at 3200 yards, 4 hour bike just done, and I have 2 hours of running tomorrow to hit a new high for this plan.

 

You doing the HIM to IM Bridge plan from BT?  That's the plan I'm using, which has a 2 hr run tomorrow and 4 hr bike ride last weekend.

Yep.  and a 4k swim this weekend.  Not looking forward to the run tongiht...  Oh well.



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sbux87 - 2012-09-06 7:22 AM

I need some advice. I have the Rev 3 HIM on Sunday. It will be my second HIM of the season and the goal is to get nutrition dialed in, not really going for time. I'd say a B race.

I woke up yesterday morning with a terrible sore throat, it was so painful. This then developed through the day into a full blown cold. I took the day off work and napped most of the day. I'm still sick today but feeling a little better. No fever, just achy, congested, and some sneezing. I have absolutely zero appetite though and have been surviving on a little chicken noodle soup.

What should I do about Sunday? If I am feeling better should I race? Or do you think that would just set me up to get sicker and not recover? Arizona is obviously the primary goal and I don't want to do anything to jeopardize that. I'd be so sad to miss the race and wanted to do it as a confidence booster that I am on track for IMAZ but if I am not feeling 100% it might do the opposite.

What would you guys do?

Lots of rest. Lots of liquids. You still have a couple of days, so take it day to day. Go about getting everything ready as if you are planning to race.

I would skip the rest of your workouts between now and Sunday and get a lot of sleep. Take a sick day if possible. Decide race morning how you feel.

Hope you get well soon...

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Longest swim is 5000 meters, but average is 3500-4000/Longest bike 6:30 hours/Longest run 2:45

Training is getting pretty tough no turning back now.

 

 

 

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Hey everyone how's training going??

Anyways i was reading about doing a metric ironman(1.5 mile swim, 69.6 mile bike, 16.1 mile run) 4-5 weeks in one day like a race before IMAZ. Are you guys planning to do one of these?

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jbahjj - 2012-09-07 10:58 AM

Hey everyone how's training going??

Anyways i was reading about doing a metric ironman(1.5 mile swim, 69.6 mile bike, 16.1 mile run) 4-5 weeks in one day like a race before IMAZ. Are you guys planning to do one of these?

I am planning on a day like this.  I've got it on my schedule, I think its about 5-6 weeks out from the race, but I can't recall specifically.

I did my longest run so far last weekend, 15 miles, and it seems like my body is taking a little longer to recover from that as compared to what I would have expected.  So, its something I'm going to have to monitor.  When I finish this, my chiropractor is going to deserve a whole lot of the credit.

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