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julta - 2011-05-15 10:22 PM Yea Kathleen! Good for you! My ride was good, cold and wet but good. Having a dumb blond moment I think my brake was rubbing through much of the last 30 miles. But Hey I got er' done. I've posted a very long winded account on my blog if anyone is interested in reading it.


Great job getting the ride done in less than perfect weather!


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shake-n-bake - 2011-05-15 3:57 PM

Alright friends my race report is up.Just completed it after I finished a 76 mile bike today with a 19.5 average..Recovery ride (lol)

Hope all is well..

 http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=252310


 

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Question for you??My next Olympic is in four weeks what training plan should I import.I really want to try and get into the 2hour 30minute mark..This event was my first every tri last year at 2:53 so I really want to rock here.. thanks



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There is also an 8 week Olympic plan in Triathlete magazine this month if you get that.  It is written by one of the 2 owners of Endurance Nation, which is an on line coaching service.  I have used one of their off season plans in the past.  They do a pretty good job!

Also, I hope I didn't come across the wrong way about only having 4 weeks.  I just don't want you to over train trying to make gains that are difficult in a short time period and wind up on the sidelines injured!


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Had a good race yesterday, will post my RR soon.

I am going to need some help. My husband and I are going to have to take turns with our coach. Financially we can't swing him training both of us right now. He has a HIM in September and I have one in November. We have him through the first week of June I think then he will be coaching Ken and not me until September when I will hop on again.

All this to say I need a plan. I have a sprint the first weekend in August which is an A race for me, an Oly B race in September and then my HIM the first weekend in November is my big A race.

I'll likely upgrade my BT membership and go with one of their plans. I'm guessing an Oly plan? I am very open to suggestions. As for the immediate future I'd like to continue with my bike and swim training and take my run training down a notch. I am obviously injury prone and right now am dealing with shin splints in both legs and a left IT band issue I put to 'bed' over a year ago. So my plan for the run is to start from scratch.

 

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scraver - 2011-05-13 3:49 PM

Weekend Plans:

Tonight: go home, rest up for tomorrow

Tomorrow: Taking my 2 yr old to a "Family Zumba" class.  We will see how that goes.  That is in the morning.  Then in the afternoon - it is the PUB RUN!!!  Whoo hoo!!  Three miles and six beers!  (plus the warm up beer I have b/f hand... and the beers and food after(I will try to post embarrassing pictures after!)

Sunday: Recover from hangover.

How are ya feeling today?!

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robingray_260 - 2011-05-14 11:55 AM

Just finished my local 5k run today.  Ran it in 27.02 which is almost 3 minutes faster than my 5k time last year!!!!

Very jazzed right now. I didn't know how fast I would be able to run as I didn't taper and had a 2 hour ride yesterday. I was hoping to go under 29 minutes - so very very happy! Yeah!!!!

Awesome job Robin!  Keep it up!!

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KeriKadi - 2011-05-14 1:13 PM

Here is Kerianne in T2 - I sure wish I looked this good coming off the bike!

 

Great pic! 



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shake-n-bake - 2011-05-14 5:14 PM

Alright guys first race of the season is in the books..Looks like I finished with a time off 2:44:49...27th out of 61 in the 40-44 age group..I will let you know when I get my RR up...Overall had a good race and good time just disappointed in my swim leg it was brutal I was a total of 8 minutes of my pace...didn't help that it ended up being wetsuit legal and I don't have one in my bag yet...Plus it was reported by several races that the distance was around 1.10 miles and should have been .93 miles..Oh well it is over and in the books,we learn from it and move forward..

 194th Overall          Swim  38:54 T1 1:17  Bike 1:12:37 20.7 avg  T2 1:08   Run 50:54  8:13 pace  Total: 2:44:49 

Great first race!  Good things are to come.

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KeriKadi - 2011-05-16 8:28 AM

Had a good race yesterday, will post my RR soon.

I am going to need some help. My husband and I are going to have to take turns with our coach. Financially we can't swing him training both of us right now. He has a HIM in September and I have one in November. We have him through the first week of June I think then he will be coaching Ken and not me until September when I will hop on again.

All this to say I need a plan. I have a sprint the first weekend in August which is an A race for me, an Oly B race in September and then my HIM the first weekend in November is my big A race.

I'll likely upgrade my BT membership and go with one of their plans. I'm guessing an Oly plan? I am very open to suggestions. As for the immediate future I'd like to continue with my bike and swim training and take my run training down a notch. I am obviously injury prone and right now am dealing with shin splints in both legs and a left IT band issue I put to 'bed' over a year ago. So my plan for the run is to start from scratch.

 

Just curious, but why not a half IM plan that encompasses the Oly as a measure of fitness?   

Leg injuries suck.  I check shoes, commit to foam rollers every day, stretching/yoga after every bike and run workout, anti inflammation meds, and ice, compression socks and elevation when I can.   The older I get the more I focus on this.  So far so good this season

 

 

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kenj - 2011-05-13 2:18 PM The Galloway method is a great way to get into running, especially longer distances.  A lot of beginners start out using this method some switch to straight running others stick with it.  Nothing wrong with it at all. 

What's the Galloway method?

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shake-n-bake - 2011-05-14 4:14 PM

Alright guys first race of the season is in the books..Looks like I finished with a time off 2:44:49...27th out of 61 in the 40-44 age group..I will let you know when I get my RR up...Overall had a good race and good time just disappointed in my swim leg it was brutal I was a total of 8 minutes of my pace...didn't help that it ended up being wetsuit legal and I don't have one in my bag yet...Plus it was reported by several races that the distance was around 1.10 miles and should have been .93 miles..Oh well it is over and in the books,we learn from it and move forward..

 194th Overall          Swim  38:54 T1 1:17  Bike 1:12:37 20.7 avg  T2 1:08   Run 50:54  8:13 pace  Total: 2:44:49 

 

Nice job!!

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Kath2163 - 2011-05-15 10:34 AM

So for some good news and not so good news.  Not so good news first.

Brian (significant other) was laid off on Thursday, the day before we were going to hand our inspection report with a list of corrections to the buyer of the home we were going to purchase. It was a real blow but at least we hadn't closed on the house before this happened. That would have been very very bad.

Now for the good news.  I ran a 5k yesterday with some friends and did my best time in a very long time. My Garmin had the distance at 3.19 but either way my first two miles were definately faster then I have been doing. I was really pushing and had that "I think I am going to puke" feeling close to the finish. At least that feeling was due to working hard and not the crazy GI issue I have.

It is a gloomy day here today and I need to get some work done (taking work home stinks but I have a deadline to meet) but my plan is to get a run in and hit the weights. Someday I will get myself to the pool.

Happy Sunday All!

Kathleen, sorry to hear the bad news, seems to be a not so rare occurrence these days.  Hope that you and DH get back on your feet soon.

BTW, awesome work on your run!!  That's wonderful news



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robingray_260 - 2011-05-14 10:55 AM

Just finished my local 5k run today.  Ran it in 27.02 which is almost 3 minutes faster than my 5k time last year!!!!

Very jazzed right now. I didn't know how fast I would be able to run as I didn't taper and had a 2 hour ride yesterday. I was hoping to go under 29 minutes - so very very happy! Yeah!!!!

Nice work Robin!  you must feel amazinG

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Went for a 2 mi. run this morning, but was very sluggish.  The air was extremely humid, and I felt that dragged me down.  Is this common?
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Viyoung - 2011-05-16 9:49 AM
Kath2163 - 2011-05-15 10:34 AM

So for some good news and not so good news.  Not so good news first.

Brian (significant other) was laid off on Thursday, the day before we were going to hand our inspection report with a list of corrections to the buyer of the home we were going to purchase. It was a real blow but at least we hadn't closed on the house before this happened. That would have been very very bad.

Now for the good news.  I ran a 5k yesterday with some friends and did my best time in a very long time. My Garmin had the distance at 3.19 but either way my first two miles were definately faster then I have been doing. I was really pushing and had that "I think I am going to puke" feeling close to the finish. At least that feeling was due to working hard and not the crazy GI issue I have.

It is a gloomy day here today and I need to get some work done (taking work home stinks but I have a deadline to meet) but my plan is to get a run in and hit the weights. Someday I will get myself to the pool.

Happy Sunday All!

Kathleen, sorry to hear the bad news, seems to be a not so rare occurrence these days.  Hope that you and DH get back on your feet soon.

BTW, awesome work on your run!!  That's wonderful news

Sorry for your troubles.  I've been here 31 years, and we haven't had a raise in 6 and furlough days the last 4. Thank God for the diversion of endurance sports...

 



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Viyoung - 2011-05-16 10:51 AM Went for a 2 mi. run this morning, but was very sluggish.  The air was extremely humid, and I felt that dragged me down.  Is this common?

It is for me.  Humity is hard for me to run in.  It's like trying to breathe underwater.

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shake-n-bake - 2011-05-14 5:14 PM

Alright guys first race of the season is in the books..Looks like I finished with a time off 2:44:49...27th out of 61 in the 40-44 age group..I will let you know when I get my RR up...Overall had a good race and good time just disappointed in my swim leg it was brutal I was a total of 8 minutes of my pace...didn't help that it ended up being wetsuit legal and I don't have one in my bag yet...Plus it was reported by several races that the distance was around 1.10 miles and should have been .93 miles..Oh well it is over and in the books,we learn from it and move forward..

 194th Overall          Swim  38:54 T1 1:17  Bike 1:12:37 20.7 avg  T2 1:08   Run 50:54  8:13 pace  Total: 2:44:49 

Great job!!



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Kath2163 - 2011-05-15 11:34 AM

So for some good news and not so good news.  Not so good news first.

Brian (significant other) was laid off on Thursday, the day before we were going to hand our inspection report with a list of corrections to the buyer of the home we were going to purchase. It was a real blow but at least we hadn't closed on the house before this happened. That would have been very very bad.

Now for the good news.  I ran a 5k yesterday with some friends and did my best time in a very long time. My Garmin had the distance at 3.19 but either way my first two miles were definately faster then I have been doing. I was really pushing and had that "I think I am going to puke" feeling close to the finish. At least that feeling was due to working hard and not the crazy GI issue I have.

It is a gloomy day here today and I need to get some work done (taking work home stinks but I have a deadline to meet) but my plan is to get a run in and hit the weights. Someday I will get myself to the pool.

Happy Sunday All!

Ouch!  That really stinks about your SO getting laid off.  Maybe this will lead to bigger and better things for him?

Awesome job on the run!!



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robingray_260 - 2011-05-14 11:55 AM

Just finished my local 5k run today.  Ran it in 27.02 which is almost 3 minutes faster than my 5k time last year!!!!

Very jazzed right now. I didn't know how fast I would be able to run as I didn't taper and had a 2 hour ride yesterday. I was hoping to go under 29 minutes - so very very happy! Yeah!!!!

Awesome job!!!

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Decided to try practice sighting in the pool today and it was somewhat of a disaster.  I feel like I can't get my head up high enough to sight after all of the practice of keeping my head down while swimming.

What techniques do ya'll use when sighting?  Do you breathe then look?  Do you look then breathe?  Do you do both nearly simultaneously? 

Thanks for the help!

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In general your head shouldn't need to come up too high to sight.

Raise goggles above the water then take your breath, shouldn't be much of a pause, if any.

Good to hear that you're practicing it.

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KeriKadi - 2011-05-16 8:28 AM

Had a good race yesterday, will post my RR soon.

I am going to need some help. My husband and I are going to have to take turns with our coach. Financially we can't swing him training both of us right now. He has a HIM in September and I have one in November. We have him through the first week of June I think then he will be coaching Ken and not me until September when I will hop on again.

All this to say I need a plan. I have a sprint the first weekend in August which is an A race for me, an Oly B race in September and then my HIM the first weekend in November is my big A race.

I'll likely upgrade my BT membership and go with one of their plans. I'm guessing an Oly plan? I am very open to suggestions. As for the immediate future I'd like to continue with my bike and swim training and take my run training down a notch. I am obviously injury prone and right now am dealing with shin splints in both legs and a left IT band issue I put to 'bed' over a year ago. So my plan for the run is to start from scratch.

 

Just curious, but why not a half IM plan that encompasses the Oly as a measure of fitness?   

Leg injuries suck.  I check shoes, commit to foam rollers every day, stretching/yoga after every bike and run workout, anti inflammation meds, and ice, compression socks and elevation when I can.   The older I get the more I focus on this.  So far so good this season

 

I don't want to start half IM training in May for a race in November, I will burn out for sure. I need to focus on what I have coming up next and once the August sprint is over I can start looking at HIM training.

I've done all the things you suggestions as well as the stick and seeing my ART guy on a regular basis. I have great Zoot compression tights, use ice plenty and spend way too much time with my foam roller. The only thing I won't do is yoga because I have found they frown upon snoring.

RR is up.



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kenj - 2011-05-13 2:18 PM The Galloway method is a great way to get into running, especially longer distances.  A lot of beginners start out using this method some switch to straight running others stick with it.  Nothing wrong with it at all. 

What's the Galloway method?



The Galloway method is (named after some guy named Galloway) a walk run formula that he uses to coach his athletes for running and has also written books on.  It has now become the generic name for any walk/run combination of say run 9 minutes/walk 1.

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KeriKadi - 2011-05-16 9:28 AM

Had a good race yesterday, will post my RR soon.

I am going to need some help. My husband and I are going to have to take turns with our coach. Financially we can't swing him training both of us right now. He has a HIM in September and I have one in November. We have him through the first week of June I think then he will be coaching Ken and not me until September when I will hop on again.

All this to say I need a plan. I have a sprint the first weekend in August which is an A race for me, an Oly B race in September and then my HIM the first weekend in November is my big A race.

I'll likely upgrade my BT membership and go with one of their plans. I'm guessing an Oly plan? I am very open to suggestions. As for the immediate future I'd like to continue with my bike and swim training and take my run training down a notch. I am obviously injury prone and right now am dealing with shin splints in both legs and a left IT band issue I put to 'bed' over a year ago. So my plan for the run is to start from scratch.

 



My suggestion would be to go to a Silver level if you can and pick out one of the sprint plans.  You can get an idea of the volume and pick one that suits your time.  Since you like to swim I think you will find the plans here to your liking.  Most of the sprint plans are about 12 weeks, which beleive it or not starting now would put you about the first week of August.  You can just cut back on the running until you get feeling a little better.  Since it is an A race, you may want to look at the Intermediate plan.

After your sprint race, you can go into the sprint to oly bridge, which you wont have time to complete, but you should be able to hit quite a bit depending on when in September your race is.

The other option, if you are worried about the volume would be to load the intermediate Olympic plan that is 21 weeks.  You don't have 21 weeks (I don't think) until September but your volume should be good to start a few weeks into it.

Your coach can pick up the plan after that.

I think you can see the plans, or at least a good description without committing to upgrading your membership by just clicking on plans available to the different membership levels.
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Trout - 2011-05-16 2:05 PM

Decided to try practice sighting in the pool today and it was somewhat of a disaster.  I feel like I can't get my head up high enough to sight after all of the practice of keeping my head down while swimming.

What techniques do ya'll use when sighting?  Do you breathe then look?  Do you look then breathe?  Do you do both nearly simultaneously? 

Thanks for the help!


Good for you for practicing!  Tough to figure this out during the first race of the season! Cool
One benefit of the race is that it is usually a larger orange or yellow ball that is a little easier to find quickly.

My technique is to breath, then look quickly.  One drill that can make you a little more comfortable is to swim freestyle with your head out of the water looking forward (kind of like a lifeguard swimming towards a victim).  Although I wouldn't spend a lot of time, it can help some with the balance issue of lifting your body.  Another swim skill that helps is to be able to breath bilaterally.  Meaning the ability to breath out of both sides comfortably.  That way if the buoys are on either side of you it doesn't matter, you can adjust.  It also helps on sunny days or rough days so you can breath on a side that isn't going to get a wave in the face. 

I also try and find some feet to latch onto to give me a little draft benefit and hopefully someone that is swimming straight so I don't have to look as often.
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Trout - 2011-05-16 2:05 PM

Decided to try practice sighting in the pool today and it was somewhat of a disaster.  I feel like I can't get my head up high enough to sight after all of the practice of keeping my head down while swimming.

What techniques do ya'll use when sighting?  Do you breathe then look?  Do you look then breathe?  Do you do both nearly simultaneously? 

Thanks for the help!


Good for you for practicing!  Tough to figure this out during the first race of the season! Cool
One benefit of the race is that it is usually a larger orange or yellow ball that is a little easier to find quickly.

My technique is to breath, then look quickly.  One drill that can make you a little more comfortable is to swim freestyle with your head out of the water looking forward (kind of like a lifeguard swimming towards a victim).  Although I wouldn't spend a lot of time, it can help some with the balance issue of lifting your body.  Another swim skill that helps is to be able to breath bilaterally.  Meaning the ability to breath out of both sides comfortably.  That way if the buoys are on either side of you it doesn't matter, you can adjust.  It also helps on sunny days or rough days so you can breath on a side that isn't going to get a wave in the face. 

I also try and find some feet to latch onto to give me a little draft benefit and hopefully someone that is swimming straight so I don't have to look as often.

 

Also practice in a pool using a green tennis ball on the deck.  They are about the size of what you see long distance.  Lifting like Tarzan or a life guard is OK.  You can also get so you only have to look forward as you lift your head to breath normally - IF you can sight on something on shore other than the buoy.   A tree, a building...something nearly in line with the buoy.  Then you can sight pretty easily from a distance and get better bearings as you get closer.  

 

 

 

 

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