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Asalzwed - 2012-01-07 1:31 PM Ok I'm overwhelmed with the conversations going on in here. Lynn, awwwweeeesooom to the HIM! Lube, lots of lube! Happy 50th! I think I got all the bases covered! Oh I'm done racing now!

 

YEA!!! Good job Adreinne. How was it? How far did you run? How do you feel? Have you had a beer or 'rita yet? So many questions...Rest up.



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Asalzwed - 2012-01-07 10:10 PM Gooooood morning manatees! Looks like you are all well.Ran through the night then got a couple hours of sleep this am. We only have about 50 miles left. I can't do math at this point so that's a guesstimate. I'm going to run an all out 4 mile tiime trial with minimal sleep and dead legs. Any bets? It's not gonna be pretty!

GOOOOO SALTY!!!

Heh, I bet you are pretty salty and crusty by now. But always pretty.

Ehhh yeah that about sums it up. Just subtract the pretty

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder -- us running types think salty and crusty is beautiful! Way to go GF!!

Not to mention adding salt and crust to something delicious makes it even MORE delicious!

But I hope you aren't fried, poor thing.

Been following your updates, your doing soooooo well! We Manatees are proud of you

So have I.  Great job! It has been fun reading your race reports. 

2012-01-07 3:48 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-01-07 1:31 PM Ok I'm overwhelmed with the conversations going on in here. Lynn, awwwweeeesooom to the HIM! Lube, lots of lube! Happy 50th! I think I got all the bases covered! Oh I'm done racing now!

 

YEA!!! Good job Adreinne. How was it? How far did you run? How do you feel? Have you had a beer or 'rita yet? So many questions...Rest up.

I ran about 28. I feel fantastic! Well that may be partially because we have been celebrating since before we crossed the finish Ask any questions you would like gggiiiirrrrllll
2012-01-07 3:50 PM
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Oooooh and fried I am not! I may be crispy crusty salty slimy and wet but I sunblockef up. Does this mean I'm an adult?
2012-01-07 3:55 PM
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I finally got caught up on all the forum happenings.  We have been a busy group.  I had a busy first week back from winter break.  Back to work, school, and training.  Let see we Manatees are on grandbaby watch, celebrating a 50th birthday, happy that a wee one is on the mend, supporting two Manatees who are trying to quit smoking, happy that a sore back & throat are better,  in addition to so MUCH more.

I had a great week.  Kept to my training plan.  I am trying not to over train.  Train don't strain is my current mantra.  Master swimming on Monday & Wednesdays is going well.  Although this learning to breath on both sides is freakin' KILLING me.  When I try to breath on the left, I get a mouth full of water and my stroke goes all to HELL. Yell  The SAME stroke I have been working so hard to improve.  BTW, I am convinced that the swim lane three lanes to the left of my newbie lane is filled with mer-people, they glide through the water, and never tire. Yep, a whole lane of mer-people. Aliens and zombies can't swim that fast.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and replies to my Garmin gadget & tri wear.  I will be surfing the internet later tonight for a few deals on both.

 

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28 miles.  Wowzer great job! Cheers you deserve to celebrate!


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Asalzwed - 2012-01-08 5:31 AM Ok I'm overwhelmed with the conversations going on in here. Lynn, awwwweeeesooom to the HIM! Lube, lots of lube! Happy 50th! I think I got all the bases covered! Oh I'm done racing now!

I can still read what you're posting ... clearly you need to drink more ... CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2012-01-07 4:31 PM
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ukweeble - 2012-01-08 5:08 AM
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ukweeble - 2012-01-07 7:22 PM

 The only down side has been the issue of chafing, which i have not experienced before and i guess is down to the fact that i have done a full hour of non stop bike/run which is longer than i have done before. Will wearing proper running shorts cure this as i am still jogging in standard sweat pants/ jogging bottoms (not sure what you americans call them). Still trying to improve my wardrobe as until joining BT, i had not needed exercise clothing of any type for years. Will eventually get all the kit i need but have to build it up slowly as funds allow. Due to chafing i guess my next purchase should be running shorts.

Tri shorts! You can cycle and run in them, as well. (I've never had a problem running in cycling shorts but some people feel as if they are wearing a diaper). Running shorts aren't very good for cycling, though.

And I second the lube. Don't know what you can get in the UK but a running or cycling or even sports stores should have something. I also make good use of ahem "personal lubricant" that you can get at the chemists for rides and runs over a couple hours or so.

I've only had a little experience of a cherry flavoured one that unfortunately dried out quite quickly! I will bow to your obviously greater experience in this field and check out the chemist if i cant get anything more 'appropriate'.  Of course perhaps i should get the tri shorts first as it might cure the problem without the need for difficult conversations in Boots the chemist.

CANTSTOPRAFFING!!! Allen, you slay me!

2012-01-07 4:34 PM
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wagonnatri - 2012-01-08 5:55 AM

I had a great week.  Kept to my training plan.  I am trying not to over train.  Train don't strain is my current mantra.  Master swimming on Monday & Wednesdays is going well.  Although this learning to breath on both sides is freakin' KILLING me.  When I try to breath on the left, I get a mouth full of water and my stroke goes all to HELL. Yell  The SAME stroke I have been working so hard to improve.  BTW, I am convinced that the swim lane three lanes to the left of my newbie lane is filled with mer-people, they glide through the water, and never tire. Yep, a whole lane of mer-people. Aliens and zombies can't swim that fast.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and replies to my Garmin gadget & tri wear.  I will be surfing the internet later tonight for a few deals on both.

 

Well done on your week! TRAIN DON'T STRAIN now that is goooold right there. Truth!!!

It's really hard to believe you're improving your stroke when you have to do something that makes it feel like it's going to hell ... but you are. You are truly increasing your swim awesomeness with every breath on the left.

2012-01-07 4:56 PM
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kgore - 2012-01-08 5:01 AM

Nope, no trainer for me--It WAS my request for a Christmas present, but someone (a certain husband...) completely dropped the ball. Although, its been 60+ degrees, sunny, and dry pretty much every day from Dec. through today...so really, why would I want to stay in? That being said, the husband (okay, from now on, will be referred to by name: Clint) said he would have no problems holding said bike for pictures--and my camera has a good timer...

I made it to the pool today, after taking a writing test at the college (stupid requirement for graduation--duh, already PROVED I could write!!!Yell) Anyway--I didn't push for crazy speed today--coach's orders--it was all about form. I managed in 1500 yards--not too bad really. Also, the back feels about 98%--so I am happy with that!

Well in that case I am asking for LOTS of pictures The ones that are critical are in boldface. The rest would be very helpful, but not strictly necessary.

I also need your measurements as per this site:

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=FIT_CALCULATOR_INTRO

Really jam the straight-edge up in your crotch. They mean it when they say "as much pressure as on your bike seat." That's going to be most of your body weight.

I need exactly what year/make/model/size your bike is (as far as you know) and anything you swapped out on it--saddle, pedals, shoes, etc.

Pics of your naked bike (no Kate on it) straight from the front at handlebar height, straight from the side (either side) at saddle height and position, and straight from the top (2), one pointed down at handlebars, one at the saddle.

I take it you're running clipless pedal system on it? If so, I need a straight on close-up picture of the bottom of both shoes as well as when your feet are clipped in (both, please).

Pics taken straight from the front
I need a straight-from-the-front at hand-height with your hands on the hoods, and another at shoulder height.
Pics of when your feet are at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock (both sides) and at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock (both sides). These pics should be taken at about halfway between hip and knee if the bottom foot were at 6 o'clock.

Pics taken straight from the side
Camera straight-on at hip level, slightly forward of hip. Both sides for each position.
With feet at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock and at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock.

Pics taken straight from the rear
Close-ups of your butt (actually what I want to see is the hips) with your feet, both sides, in the 9/3 and 12/6 positions.
Pics of when your feet are at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock (both sides) and at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock (both sides). These pics should be taken at about halfway between hip and knee if the bottom foot were at 6 o'clock.

2012-01-07 5:39 PM
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TriAya - 2012-01-07 10:34 PM
wagonnatri - 2012-01-08 5:55 AM

I had a great week.  Kept to my training plan.  I am trying not to over train.  Train don't strain is my current mantra.  Master swimming on Monday & Wednesdays is going well.  Although this learning to breath on both sides is freakin' KILLING me.  When I try to breath on the left, I get a mouth full of water and my stroke goes all to HELL. Yell  The SAME stroke I have been working so hard to improve.  BTW, I am convinced that the swim lane three lanes to the left of my newbie lane is filled with mer-people, they glide through the water, and never tire. Yep, a whole lane of mer-people. Aliens and zombies can't swim that fast.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and replies to my Garmin gadget & tri wear.  I will be surfing the internet later tonight for a few deals on both.

 

Well done on your week! TRAIN DON'T STRAIN now that is goooold right there. Truth!!!

It's really hard to believe you're improving your stroke when you have to do something that makes it feel like it's going to hell ... but you are. You are truly increasing your swim awesomeness with every breath on the left.

Second that about not straining.

 I hate swimming but keep at it knowing that every time i end up coughing, it will eventually make me stronger. Lets hope the mer-people dont take up triathlon cos there are also a load of them at my pool. Can't see the gills though? Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place!!



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ukweeble - 2012-01-08 7:39 AM
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wagonnatri - 2012-01-08 5:55 AM

I had a great week.  Kept to my training plan.  I am trying not to over train.  Train don't strain is my current mantra.  Master swimming on Monday & Wednesdays is going well.  Although this learning to breath on both sides is freakin' KILLING me.  When I try to breath on the left, I get a mouth full of water and my stroke goes all to HELL. Yell  The SAME stroke I have been working so hard to improve.  BTW, I am convinced that the swim lane three lanes to the left of my newbie lane is filled with mer-people, they glide through the water, and never tire. Yep, a whole lane of mer-people. Aliens and zombies can't swim that fast.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and replies to my Garmin gadget & tri wear.  I will be surfing the internet later tonight for a few deals on both.

 

Well done on your week! TRAIN DON'T STRAIN now that is goooold right there. Truth!!!

It's really hard to believe you're improving your stroke when you have to do something that makes it feel like it's going to hell ... but you are. You are truly increasing your swim awesomeness with every breath on the left.

Second that about not straining.

 I hate swimming but keep at it knowing that every time i end up coughing, it will eventually make me stronger. Lets hope the mer-people dont take up triathlon cos there are also a load of them at my pool. Can't see the gills though? Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place!!

Thankfully for triathletes, mer-people have the least advantage in triathlon because the swim is relatively so short.

Not gills--blowholes. They're located in our armpits. That's why we rotate on a body-length axis--it's to get additional air from the blowholes.

2012-01-07 5:53 PM
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Can images be posted from a phone? Probably going to have to figure out how to resize, eh?
2012-01-07 5:59 PM
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On a lighter note, i have just been offered a pair of 'big pants' (also known as Bridget Jones pants) by my daughter as a temporary relief to my chafing problem.   I am slightly worried that if i am involved in a road traffic accident some awkward questions may be asked but am tempted all the same. Not sure what my wife will think either. On the down side, they are not my favourite colour.

2012-01-07 6:21 PM
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Great job on the Ragnar Relay!

TriAya, could you do the bike position evaluation of  me on my road bike?  I recently switched out my seat and biking shoes and not sure if my position is correct.

2012-01-07 6:32 PM
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Honey~Badger - 2012-01-08 8:21 AM

Great job on the Ragnar Relay!

TriAya, could you do the bike position evaluation of  me on my road bike?  I recently switched out my seat and biking shoes and not sure if my position is correct.

Sure. In addition to everything I asked for in Kate's post, make sure to include what make/model your old saddle and shoes were and what issues you were having with them, as well as the new ones. Did you have a fitting done previously?

The caveat to all of this, of course, is that online positionings may be worth what you paid for them. Laughing Same as swim coaching by video--far better than nothing, far worse than live fittings and positionings by experienced professionals.



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Okay, we will get on it and take some pics. 

Guess what? the last post (right before this one) was the 666th post...creepySurprised....

I have to admit, everyone in this group is amazing--we are training like crazy, if not already competing--tons of info...just awesome! I am so proud to be a part of this pod!!!Smile

This is a pic of Clint (he rarely smiles in photos...) and I--and a manatee--when we were in Florida...before my triathlon hobby was even thought of--let alone begun! Obviously it is meant to be!



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kgore - 2012-01-08 1:37 PM

Okay, we will get on it and take some pics. 

Guess what? the last post (right before this one) was the 666th post...creepySurprised....

I have to admit, everyone in this group is amazing--we are training like crazy, if not already competing--tons of info...just awesome! I am so proud to be a part of this pod!!!Smile

This is a pic of Clint (he rarely smiles in photos...) and I--and a manatee--when we were in Florida...before my triathlon hobby was even thought of--let alone begun! Obviously it is meant to be!

That just makes me sniffle with delight! What a fortuitous photograph!

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???KATE and LYNNE regarding bike positioning

Please wear fitted clothing for the pics. I don't care if you like to cycle in parachutes, but for the pics ah needs ta see yer limbs, body position and angles as clearly as possible.

You can send the photographs to [email protected], or send a link to a web photo server if you use one.

Also, if it's not apparent in your logs and intros, I need to know your cycling and running history (mileage, hours, times) and especially any relevant health/injury history.

2012-01-08 5:30 AM
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I realise this may sound daft, but, when in a race, do you swim in your tri suit or put it on over swim shorts as you get out of the water- or do something else entirely? I ask this because in the sprint that i am doing, the swim is in a pool (easy life i know) and getting changed with so many bodies about will be chaotic, i would have thought.

Puzzled????

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ukweeble - 2012-01-08 5:30 AM

I realise this may sound daft, but, when in a race, do you swim in your tri suit or put it on over swim shorts as you get out of the water- or do something else entirely? I ask this because in the sprint that i am doing, the swim is in a pool (easy life i know) and getting changed with so many bodies about will be chaotic, i would have thought.

Puzzled????

For anything up to and including half ironmen (70.3) distances, you swim in your trisuit.  Can't comment about races in England, but here there are no changing tents and nudity is not allowed.  Chlorine is not generally recommended for trisuits, but i don't think such a short exposure will do harm.   I can't comment on full iron distances as I have not done one and I understand there are changing tents and people do various changes of clothing.

Now, I've got to stop procrastinating and go out and run - with my dog.  Maybe I can impress another person with his (the dog's) peeing skills

 

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ukweeble - 2012-01-08 5:30 AM

I realise this may sound daft, but, when in a race, do you swim in your tri suit or put it on over swim shorts as you get out of the water- or do something else entirely? I ask this because in the sprint that i am doing, the swim is in a pool (easy life i know) and getting changed with so many bodies about will be chaotic, i would have thought.

Puzzled????

For anything up to and including half ironmen (70.3) distances, you swim in your trisuit.  Can't comment about races in England, but here there are no changing tents and nudity is not allowed.  Chlorine is not generally recommended for trisuits, but i don't think such a short exposure will do harm.   I can't comment on full iron distances as I have not done one and I understand there are changing tents and people do various changes of clothing.

Now, I've got to stop procrastinating and go out and run - with my dog.  Maybe I can impress another person with his (the dog's) peeing skills

 

Ann-Marie

Thanks Ann-Marie. It does sound sensible but i had to ask.

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I had a great week.  Kept to my training plan.  I am trying not to over train.  Train don't strain is my current mantra.  Master swimming on Monday & Wednesdays is going well.  Although this learning to breath on both sides is freakin' KILLING me.  When I try to breath on the left, I get a mouth full of water and my stroke goes all to HELL. Yell  The SAME stroke I have been working so hard to improve.  BTW, I am convinced that the swim lane three lanes to the left of my newbie lane is filled with mer-people, they glide through the water, and never tire. Yep, a whole lane of mer-people. Aliens and zombies can't swim that fast.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and replies to my Garmin gadget & tri wear.  I will be surfing the internet later tonight for a few deals on both.

 

Well done on your week! TRAIN DON'T STRAIN now that is goooold right there. Truth!!!

It's really hard to believe you're improving your stroke when you have to do something that makes it feel like it's going to hell ... but you are. You are truly increasing your swim awesomeness with every breath on the left.

Second that about not straining.

 I hate swimming but keep at it knowing that every time i end up coughing, it will eventually make me stronger. Lets hope the mer-people dont take up triathlon cos there are also a load of them at my pool. Can't see the gills though? Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place!!

Thankfully for triathletes, mer-people have the least advantage in triathlon because the swim is relatively so short.

Not gills--blowholes. They're located in our armpits. That's why we rotate on a body-length axis--it's to get additional air from the blowholes.

 

Which is why I've been trying to work on my run, my only two races was FOP to MOP out of water and almost deadlast in the run...  I just watched em run right by me.  I have the swim and bike down the run is killing me though.

Had a question for y'all nutrition wise for my HM:  I've been training with perpetuum on my longer runs, because I got it on sale in powdered form, but was planning on having 2-3 GU's for the HM, have used them before just not in the last few months.  Anyone have any guidelines on how many for a HM?

 

That's an awesome job on that ragnar that race sounds like serious fun.

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I had a great week.  Kept to my training plan.  I am trying not to over train.  Train don't strain is my current mantra.  Master swimming on Monday & Wednesdays is going well.  Although this learning to breath on both sides is freakin' KILLING me.  When I try to breath on the left, I get a mouth full of water and my stroke goes all to HELL. Yell  The SAME stroke I have been working so hard to improve.  BTW, I am convinced that the swim lane three lanes to the left of my newbie lane is filled with mer-people, they glide through the water, and never tire. Yep, a whole lane of mer-people. Aliens and zombies can't swim that fast.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and replies to my Garmin gadget & tri wear.  I will be surfing the internet later tonight for a few deals on both.

 

Well done on your week! TRAIN DON'T STRAIN now that is goooold right there. Truth!!!

It's really hard to believe you're improving your stroke when you have to do something that makes it feel like it's going to hell ... but you are. You are truly increasing your swim awesomeness with every breath on the left.

Second that about not straining.

 I hate swimming but keep at it knowing that every time i end up coughing, it will eventually maGke me stronger. Lets hope the mer-people dont take up triathlon cos there are also a load of them at my pool. Can't see the gills though? Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place!!

Thankfully for triathletes, mer-people have the least advantage in triathlon because the swim is relatively so short.

Not gills--blowholes. They're located in our armpits. That's why we rotate on a body-length axis--it's to get additional air from the blowholes.

 

Which is why I've been trying to work on my run, my only two races was FOP to MOP out of water and almost deadlast in the run...  I just watched em run right by me.  I have the swim and bike down the run is killing me though.

Had a question for y'all nutrition wise for my HM:  I've been training with perpetuum on my longer runs, because I got it on sale in powdered form, but was planning on having 2-3 GU's for the HM, have used them before just not in the last few months.  Anyone have any guidelines on how many for a HM?

 

That's an awesome job on that ragnar that race sounds like serious fun.

I think how much GU is personal. Maybe try a few things and see what your needs are. Try not to buy into the marketing. Personally I use 1 in a HM, if that.
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Tripopo - 2012-01-08 11:58 PM

Which is why I've been trying to work on my run, my only two races was FOP to MOP out of water and almost deadlast in the run...  I just watched em run right by me.  I have the swim and bike down the run is killing me though.

Had a question for y'all nutrition wise for my HM:  I've been training with perpetuum on my longer runs, because I got it on sale in powdered form, but was planning on having 2-3 GU's for the HM, have used them before just not in the last few months.  Anyone have any guidelines on how many for a HM?

 

That's an awesome job on that ragnar that race sounds like serious fun.

How much Perpetuem have you been using on the longer runs? Figure out how many calories per period of time that adds up to, and then that should (roughly) transfer over to the Gu (do you mean GU or some other kind of gel?)

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