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 2013-08-16 1:53 PM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
Regular  5477    LHOTP |  Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... HOLY FAACHBALLZ! That is AWESOME! |
| 2013-08-16 1:55 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by bcraht Just moved the ice from my shoulder to my knee. Livin' large right here. I'm living large as well, typing meeting minutes that no one will read. My Dream Job! Hoping your variety of ailments start to feel better. Oh yeah, I am also listening to the 2 pregnant ladies in my department discussing breast feeding, baby names, etc. I may use the letter opener to gouge out my ears. You win. I have the office to myself I now have Pandora on and earbuds in. I am almost ready to detach from the network and wander somewhere else in the building. Ugh - I'd be wanting to gouge my ears out over that too... though I think the earbuds might be a less hurty option. |
| 2013-08-16 1:57 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 ? ;-) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I have no food at work other than a jar of peanut butter... what are the odds that I have no spoon hiding in one of these drawers and I'll have to either use my fingers or try to inconspicuously lick the PB right out of the jar? Use a letter opener. I dip my fingers all the time Jeeeeezus...talk about a set up...walking away, being a good girl... |
| 2013-08-16 1:59 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by bcraht Just moved the ice from my shoulder to my knee. Livin' large right here. Oh no! That is just not right. No person should have to ice two different limbs at the same time |
| 2013-08-16 2:03 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 ? ;-) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I have no food at work other than a jar of peanut butter... what are the odds that I have no spoon hiding in one of these drawers and I'll have to either use my fingers or try to inconspicuously lick the PB right out of the jar? Use a letter opener. I dip my fingers all the time Jeeeeezus...talk about a set up...walking away, being a good girl... That seems to out of character |
| 2013-08-16 2:04 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Asalzwed It's a slippery slope, my friend, slippery slope.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 ? ;-) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I have no food at work other than a jar of peanut butter... what are the odds that I have no spoon hiding in one of these drawers and I'll have to either use my fingers or try to inconspicuously lick the PB right out of the jar? Use a letter opener. I dip my fingers all the time Jeeeeezus...talk about a set up...walking away, being a good girl... That seems to out of character |
| 2013-08-16 2:05 PM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! |
| 2013-08-16 2:06 PM in reply to: switch |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 ? ;-) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I have no food at work other than a jar of peanut butter... what are the odds that I have no spoon hiding in one of these drawers and I'll have to either use my fingers or try to inconspicuously lick the PB right out of the jar? Use a letter opener. I dip my fingers all the time Jeeeeezus...talk about a set up...walking away, being a good girl... WTH, you turning over a new leaf?????? |
| 2013-08-16 2:06 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Asalzwed The dude kinda looks like himOriginally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! |
| 2013-08-16 2:07 PM in reply to: switch |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by bcraht Just moved the ice from my shoulder to my knee. Livin' large right here. Oh no! That is just not right. No person should have to ice two different limbs at the same time Especially when in possession of only 1 ice pack - that makes things tricky... |
| 2013-08-16 2:08 PM in reply to: Muskrat37 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Muskrat37 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Muskrat37 No - I have a standard crank (39, 53) and an 11 - 23 casette. (11 - 17 + 19, 21, 23). Couple questions:
I'm sure it's in there - but just for good measure... It's the gap between the big and small ring that is likely to limit you, at 16T. So with a 39 small, that would be a 55 big ring. That would take you from 52 mph to 53.9. You're not actually going to feel that difference. I'd rather keep it lower so that I wasn't shifting between the two rings so much. Thinking you can get more out of learning to spin better for going really fast. I know you spin high on normal pacing (at or just over 100?), but how much higher can you go (in control)? I can usually go something like 140 to a bit over 150 (I run out of hill before going higher), and have gone over 190 before. I know it sounds fun, but you'd really be sacrificing some in a more usable range. And I know the feeling, but there is no reason a bigger ring would make you faster on the flats. Don't go smaller than 11 for the rear cog. There are 10's available, but not all derailleurs can handle them and with their small size they get less efficient. Enough that it can become noticeable. With hills like that around, I'd be looking at another gear or two. I normally use an 11-23 in back because there isn't anything really substantial in the near area. I have an 11-28 that I'll switch in for the big rides I post. Those I have to drive to. First - thanks for taking the time to help me. I'm just starting to understand the gearing much better - but I'm confused on a couple of things you pointed out. 140 - 150+ rpm? Are you serious? That sounds SUPER high. Doesn't your heart rate spike? My cardio is VERY good - and I'm able to keep my heart rate in the 130 - 140 range for most rides by keeping in the 95 - 105 cadence range. If I spike my heart rate by pedaling up to 150 rpms - isn't that going to burn a ton more energy hence tiring me sooner? As for bigger up front equating to more speed on the flats - what I meant was, one of my favorite gears is Big 3 (my name for big chain ring - 3rd gear on rear). Since I'm running 53 now - if I jump to a 55 for my big ring - and stay in the 3rd gear on the back (19T) - and build to where I can comfortably keep a cadence of around 100 - wouldn't 100 rpm on a 55, 19 setup = faster than 100 rpm on a 53, 19? That's my though logic anyways... Well, on the downhills, what are you going for? Trying to hit a higher max speed or are you trying to average better going down them thinking this will help your average over the course? Something else? In order to have more gearing available up at those speeds you'll have to take away from somewhere else and it's at the normal to lower speeds where you'll likely be making up more time anyway. Unless this is a downhill race a big fast downhill will likely have a big uphill to go with it. If you want to go for that max speed, then by all means go right ahead. I'm trying to explain more what your compromising to achieve this so that you can make a better decision. As for my spinning, yes, it is quite fast. I don't maintain that type of cadence for very long. HR definitely goes up, but how much depends on how easily I'm able to spin up at that time and on how much power I'm trying to put it. It's harder to control that when going that fast. If you stayed in the same cog (19T) and switched up the big ring while still maintaining 100 rpm, you would go faster. But the cost is that you have to work harder to do so. It's quite likely your cadence would drop some to compensate or you would end up shifting down to the 21. If you want to make yourself work more, you could just shift up to the 17 and save yourself all the hassles. |
| 2013-08-16 2:08 PM in reply to: cdban66 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by cdban66 Nah, nah, let's not talk all cray-cray. I just don't wanna scare SaltyOriginally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 ? ;-) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I have no food at work other than a jar of peanut butter... what are the odds that I have no spoon hiding in one of these drawers and I'll have to either use my fingers or try to inconspicuously lick the PB right out of the jar? Use a letter opener. I dip my fingers all the time Jeeeeezus...talk about a set up...walking away, being a good girl... WTH, you turning over a new leaf??????  |
| 2013-08-16 2:10 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! Lost in transition? |
| 2013-08-16 2:13 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Originally posted by cdban66 Nah, nah, let's not talk all cray-cray. I just don't wanna scare SaltyOriginally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 ? ;-) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl I have no food at work other than a jar of peanut butter... what are the odds that I have no spoon hiding in one of these drawers and I'll have to either use my fingers or try to inconspicuously lick the PB right out of the jar? Use a letter opener. I dip my fingers all the time Jeeeeezus...talk about a set up...walking away, being a good girl... WTH, you turning over a new leaf?????? Aww, yer so considerate. You have turned over a new leaf! |
| 2013-08-16 2:13 PM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! Lost in transition? Ohhh good one!!!!!!! |
| 2013-08-16 2:42 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Asalzwed Didn't you see Zombie Land, he got shot.Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! Lost in transition? Ohhh good one!!!!!!! |
| 2013-08-16 2:43 PM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
Regular 980 Caerphilly, Wales, uk. | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Richardsdrr And he was playing himself, so it must be true.Originally posted by Asalzwed Didn't you see Zombie Land, he got shot.Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! Lost in transition? Ohhh good one!!!!!!! |
| 2013-08-16 2:56 PM in reply to: Richardsdrr |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Richardsdrr Originally posted by Richardsdrr And he was playing himself, so it must be true. Originally posted by Asalzwed Didn't you see Zombie Land, he got shot.Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Things you don't see in Chicago everyday... Where's Bill Murray!! Lost in transition? Ohhh good one!!!!!!! I won't believe it until I see it on the internet. Or TMZ. Or TMZ on the internet. |
| 2013-08-16 3:20 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Master 1890 Gig Harbor | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Muskrat37 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Muskrat37 No - I have a standard crank (39, 53) and an 11 - 23 casette. (11 - 17 + 19, 21, 23). Couple questions:
I'm sure it's in there - but just for good measure... It's the gap between the big and small ring that is likely to limit you, at 16T. So with a 39 small, that would be a 55 big ring. That would take you from 52 mph to 53.9. You're not actually going to feel that difference. I'd rather keep it lower so that I wasn't shifting between the two rings so much. Thinking you can get more out of learning to spin better for going really fast. I know you spin high on normal pacing (at or just over 100?), but how much higher can you go (in control)? I can usually go something like 140 to a bit over 150 (I run out of hill before going higher), and have gone over 190 before. I know it sounds fun, but you'd really be sacrificing some in a more usable range. And I know the feeling, but there is no reason a bigger ring would make you faster on the flats. Don't go smaller than 11 for the rear cog. There are 10's available, but not all derailleurs can handle them and with their small size they get less efficient. Enough that it can become noticeable. With hills like that around, I'd be looking at another gear or two. I normally use an 11-23 in back because there isn't anything really substantial in the near area. I have an 11-28 that I'll switch in for the big rides I post. Those I have to drive to. First - thanks for taking the time to help me. I'm just starting to understand the gearing much better - but I'm confused on a couple of things you pointed out. 140 - 150+ rpm? Are you serious? That sounds SUPER high. Doesn't your heart rate spike? My cardio is VERY good - and I'm able to keep my heart rate in the 130 - 140 range for most rides by keeping in the 95 - 105 cadence range. If I spike my heart rate by pedaling up to 150 rpms - isn't that going to burn a ton more energy hence tiring me sooner? As for bigger up front equating to more speed on the flats - what I meant was, one of my favorite gears is Big 3 (my name for big chain ring - 3rd gear on rear). Since I'm running 53 now - if I jump to a 55 for my big ring - and stay in the 3rd gear on the back (19T) - and build to where I can comfortably keep a cadence of around 100 - wouldn't 100 rpm on a 55, 19 setup = faster than 100 rpm on a 53, 19? That's my though logic anyways... Well, on the downhills, what are you going for? Trying to hit a higher max speed or are you trying to average better going down them thinking this will help your average over the course? Something else? In order to have more gearing available up at those speeds you'll have to take away from somewhere else and it's at the normal to lower speeds where you'll likely be making up more time anyway. Unless this is a downhill race a big fast downhill will likely have a big uphill to go with it. If you want to go for that max speed, then by all means go right ahead. I'm trying to explain more what your compromising to achieve this so that you can make a better decision. As for my spinning, yes, it is quite fast. I don't maintain that type of cadence for very long. HR definitely goes up, but how much depends on how easily I'm able to spin up at that time and on how much power I'm trying to put it. It's harder to control that when going that fast. If you stayed in the same cog (19T) and switched up the big ring while still maintaining 100 rpm, you would go faster. But the cost is that you have to work harder to do so. It's quite likely your cadence would drop some to compensate or you would end up shifting down to the 21. If you want to make yourself work more, you could just shift up to the 17 and save yourself all the hassles. OK - I get where you are coming from. I see what you mean about the flat speeds - just drop a gear.. makes sense. I have the room to grow with the existing cassette. I also understand what you are saying about sacrificing something to get faster on the downhills. In answer to your question - my #1 goal is to go faster while going downhill. I lose my ability to pedal past 42 ish mph, and it drives me crazy. The other day - on a nice straight drop I glanced down when my pedal stroke started causing me to get "bouncy" - 112 rpm's while pedaling in aero. I don't like to get "bouncy" at 45 mph....Even I have my limits! The Caveat: I still want my climbing gear. It looks like a 55 wouldn't give me that much more on the downhills. I found this cool calculator on the web. http://analyticcycling.com/GearSpeedCadence_Page.html
P.S. I want this ability for 2 reasons:
Guess I'll just stick with the 11 - 23 for now. I'll pick up an 11 - 28 for climbing and see how that feels. That will help me tackle those big hills - and I won't sacrifice any of my existing speed downhill. Thanks for your help (and patience) with this. |
| 2013-08-16 3:22 PM in reply to: Muskrat37 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Will someone tell me how to do the strike through thingy, like in skrat's post? ^^ |
| 2013-08-16 3:26 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Will someone tell me how to do the strike through thingy, like in skrat's post? ^^ It's in the text editing box when you write a post. 3 over from bold silly |
| 2013-08-16 3:28 PM in reply to: switch |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Will someone tell me how to do the strike through thingy, like in skrat's post? ^^ highlight the text then use the ABC in the html editor-thingy.
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(next to the Bold, Italic and 
| 2013-08-16 3:35 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by Asalzwed fuckyou ;)Originally posted by switch Will someone tell me how to do the strike through thingy, like in skrat's post? ^^ It's in the text editing box when you write a post. 3 over from bold silly |
| 2013-08-16 3:36 PM in reply to: bcraht |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by switch Will someone tell me how to do the strike through thingy, like in skrat's post? ^^ highlight the text then use the ABC in the html editor-thingy.
Now this is the kinda hand-holding I'm talkin about! I'm severely challenged when it comes to this stuff :) I wanna hit you up for the partial screen shot embedding, but at the risk of being annoying (ok, more annoying), I'll refrain. |
| 2013-08-16 3:39 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed fuckyou Originally posted by switch Will someone tell me how to do the strike through thingy, like in skrat's post? ^^ It's in the text editing box when you write a post. 3 over from bold silly Oh I'm sorry, I just forgot about this new leaf! I'll remember to hold your hand and treat you like a lady next time |
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