jsiegs and slornow's Train Hard and Have Fun group - CLOSED for Training (Page 29)

It will be awkward for awhile.  I think anytime you change the way you are used to doing something, it feels strange.  Keep it up and it will feel natural soon.

Christy

I need some bike help.  When I'm in my aero bars, I'm slower than when I'm out of them.  My cadance goes down and I don't feel like I can push as hard.   I'm guessing this isn't normal.  I've had a bike fit (twice).  Could it be my fit?  Or am I using different muscles? Does it just take some getting used to? 

Thanks
Christy

I also have a question for the group. Today at the chiropractor (I'm seeing chiro + massage for a few weeks to help with my hips and it's working WONDERS) the massage therapist was saying that I don't have strength issues/muscle imbalances, but that my muscles are 'sticking' together with the connective tissues (I have heard this many times before from different massage and PTs). Then she said, "you just need to get your muscles to work more efficiently." 

Any clue what she would have meant by this? Might it be related to recovery? I am always curious whether working out before I go to bed is causing problems for me. I know you're supposed to eat protein after workouts to help with 'recovery," but I just run/bike/swim, stretch and foam roll, and then go to sleep.

And while I'm at it, what does 'recovery' actually mean anyway and how do you properly do it? 

I have never heard of muscles sticking together.  I googled it and read that when you are dehydrated they can "stick together" and cause painful triger points.  I also found this article.  http://www.londonphysiocentre.co.uk/muscles.htm  It is interesting.  I've never heard of the site so I'm not 100% sure they know what they are talking about, but I figured it was a starting point.

I can't belive you don't eat after you workout at night.  I have to eat.  After I cool down and shower, I'm starving.  I have heard from numerous people that you have a small window to replenish (Is that spelled right?)  glycogen and repair your muscles.  I believe you need carbs and protein and you have about 30 min to eat it, in order to get the max. benifit.    I'm no expert, this is just what i've read and been told.  I find the easiest way is a reovery drink.  A lot of times i'm more than 30 min from home when I work out.  It's easier for me to get some water and bring a pack of recovery with me.  I use Hammer Recoverite.  But there are tons of stuff out there.  If I'm close to home, I love a peanut butter fold over on whole wheat bread and a glass of milk. 

I also believe the duration and intinsity of the exersice matters.  If I do a short/easy work out, I don't worry too much about recovery food.  I could be wrong in doing this. 

I'm glad the massage/chiro is working for you!

Christy

REST DAY!!!!  I've never looked forward to a rest day more than this one.  I need it.  I have a long ride/ 20 min run tomorrow.  Then it looks like I have a 2 week taper before my race.  Seems like a long time to taper. 

I'm going to try to make tomorrow as much like my race as I can.  I hope that will help me feel more comfortable going into it. It is 17 days away and I'm already sick to my stomach nervous. 

Have a great day!

Christy

Nicole and Christy, everything I read and my trainer confirms, is to eat some carbs and protein within 30-45 min. of working out for muscle recovery and development.

Christy, DON'T think about the race! Don't go there. Work hard and save the nerves for the day of. (I know, yea, right!).

Nicole, I'm with Christy here, I can't believe you don't eat after a workout! (I should practice what I preach!) I eat within an hour after my workouts, if I can. I say that because sometimes I go to the grocery store after a workout. anyway, you need protein to build and protect your muscles. Even if you eat dinner (which it seems like you do) before your workout, maybe have a protein drink after your workout.

Do you wake up hungry?

Sorry I've been a little mia here - this weekend is my daughters birthday and it is consuming every minute of everyday right now. Monday I'll be back on full force, with diet and training. I have 6 weeks until my next race, and I feel super unprepared

Woah,I'm pretty sure I have broken 100% of those rules! LOL, thanks for sharing.

Karla, Randy, Deb, Christy - During the week, my schedule goes like this  -

Home from work around 7 p.m., make and eat dinner 7-8 p.m., get to the gym 8:30 p.m., workout 8:30 to 10-ish p.m., home by 10:30, in bed by about 11 p.m. 

The problem is that I am usually so full from dinner that after my workout I don't really have an appetite. Just the thought of eating something protein-y that late at night kind of makes me nauseous.  (Unfortunately.)  

I always eat breakfast in the morning, but it's not until around 8:30 or 9 when I get into the office. Usually I think around 400 or 500 calories worth. I'm not usually starving - I do a pretty good job of spreading out my calories throughout the day. The time of day I'm hungriest is usually around 6:30 p.m. when I'm getting ready for dinner.

I will try to keep hydrated during the day more (though I usually drink a lot of water) and also will look into some recovery drinks to use on the way home from the gym. 

For my longer workouts on the weekend that take place during the day, I usually DO eat after, but now that I'm thinking about it, it's probably not for like an hour or 2 after.  

Food is so challenging! Thanks for the info! Feel free to tell me more about recovery! 

I don't wake up starving ... But I don't think I really wake up until after I'm already at work and have had a full cup of coffee though. Sometimes I sleep the entire hour-plus commute into my office (train). I usually get hungry right around 9:00 (I wake up around 6:30). 

My calories are fine, as far as I know. I plan for about 1,900 per day and then I usually add a snack like a few MnMs or anything chocolate that I just can't resist. If I get hungry, I eat. I haven't gained or lost weight since I started this season's training, but I think I have gained muscle, since my friends are telling me I look like I've lost weight. I don't really concern myself too much with it. I've been thinking that when I do like 3 hours of working out on the weekends I probably need to eat more than usual but haven't done anything formal to ensure that happens. 

Re: your suggestion about milk -- Do we need anything special from dairy? Can it be soymilk? I have weird digestive issues. Drinking milk that late would wake me up in the middle of the night. I could probably do a little greek yogurt or a glass of soymilk. Thanks for your feedback. 

I will try to be better about this! Gonna go fill up a water now.

Any thoughts on biking in the rain?  It looks like rain here.  I'm going to go out and give it a try.

Christy

Ran 5 miles this afternoon, just waiting for family swim to end at the re-opened pool and then I can do my hour swim. 

2.25 hr. bike ride tomorrow.

Gonna go see Bridesmaids tonight with one of my BFFs. And TONS of cleaning and laundry to do. I swear, triathletes must have more dirty laundry than any athlete ... 

jsiegs - 2011-06-11 9:46 AM

cbrookhart - 2011-06-11 7:57 AM

Any thoughts on biking in the rain?  It looks like rain here.  I'm going to go out and give it a try.

Christy

That's what bike trainers are for . It's actually not too bad if it's warm, I'd just be worried about t-storms today. If you do, take corners a little more carefully and don't ride on painted lines (they get very slick when wet). The glasses situation is tough, if you have clear lenses thy work well to keep the rain from stinging your eyes, but are tough to see through when wet...a real catch 22. I'm thinking about trying out the mountain bike today, I bet thats fun in the rain.

I went and didn't get rained on!  And had the best ride ever!!!  I'm not sure if it was the day off yesterday, or what, but I felt great.  51 miles and a 2.5 mile run.  It was awesome.  Then a house warming party for some friends.  I feel it was a night of bad decisions.  Or at least I think I'll feel that way tomorrow when my kids wake me up.  I just realized it is only 9:30.  Wow....I'm old.

Christy

Good morning,

Not feeling too bad this morning .  

My ride yesterday was great.  I felt like something finally clicked on the bike.  I told my sister I found a magic gear.  I could keep my cadnace up without a lot of effort and still keep my speed up.  I also figured out that I would be a lot faster without so many hills .  My sister does not believe there is a magic gear, just training paying off.  She could be right, but it felt like a magic gear.  My average speed was higher than any other ride I've done and I still felt pretty good on the run.  I did get out of my sadle on a lot of the hills.  I think that was a bad idea.  Guessing my legs would have felt better on the run if I hadn't.    That said, I felt like I could have run more.  All in all I'm really happy with it.  I think it has given me the confidence I need for the race.

My nutrition was pretty good too, I think.  I might need to set a timer on my garmin to remember to eat.  I was enjoying my ride so much yesterday, I didn't want to eat.  Not exactly sure why.  But I had to make myself.  I had no problem with my stomach on the run. 

I also need to find a headband that actually keeps sweat from getting in my eyes.  That was really painful. 

On my way to the park I was feeling sorry for myself that I didn't have anyone to ride with.  Last year I always met my sister or some friends.  It was a fun social thing.  Training is kind of lonely now. 

Christy