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jlangene - 2013-01-11 6:55 AM

Looks like I will not get my 10 mile bike ride in outside today.  We already have 20 mph winds outside and forecast says they will get up to 45 mph with 60-70 mph gusts.  I think I will go spend an hour on the stationary bike in the gym instead.  Hope everyone has better weather for their training than we are!  Shins are a little sore this morning, but not too bad.  

I am starting to get a little nervous about the upcoming Bataan.  I have 65 days left prior to the march.  I intend on marching, not running the 26.2 mile course, but my mileages now are only topping out at 4 miles in a session.  Would it be beneficial to change my Saturday long jog into a walking session and increase the mileage?  For example, I was thinking about this Saturday instead of the timed jog session I have scheduled do a 6 mile walk.  Then increase the distance 2 miles per week, which would get me up to about 22 miles the week prior to the march.  Advice?

Figure out your "A" race and train for that. I would stick to running. If you can run 4 miles, you can walk 26.2 miles. just my two cents! 

have a great weekend.



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jlangene - 2013-01-11 6:55 AM

Looks like I will not get my 10 mile bike ride in outside today.  We already have 20 mph winds outside and forecast says they will get up to 45 mph with 60-70 mph gusts.  I think I will go spend an hour on the stationary bike in the gym instead.  Hope everyone has better weather for their training than we are!  Shins are a little sore this morning, but not too bad.  

I am starting to get a little nervous about the upcoming Bataan.  I have 65 days left prior to the march.  I intend on marching, not running the 26.2 mile course, but my mileages now are only topping out at 4 miles in a session.  Would it be beneficial to change my Saturday long jog into a walking session and increase the mileage?  For example, I was thinking about this Saturday instead of the timed jog session I have scheduled do a 6 mile walk.  Then increase the distance 2 miles per week, which would get me up to about 22 miles the week prior to the march.  Advice?

Figure out your "A" race and train for that. I would stick to running. If you can run 4 miles, you can walk 26.2 miles. just my two cents! 

have a great weekend.

Ok stupid newbie question, what is an "A" race?  Is that the main race you want to complete?

2013-01-11 9:01 AM
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Cassady - 2013-01-10 11:11 PM

Congratulations but 2 hours? That is a lot of time but so awesome for you!!!!!   Keep it up and enjoy your success.

 

Also update for this weeks goal: almost done with run and swim, will have completed this weekend and hit 291.5 this morning.

Hopefully I will be in the high 280's around Monday.

CassadyDougBike, run, swim 2 hours each. Weigh no more than 292 by 1/13.

 

That is crazy awesome! WTG.

 

As for the 2 hours it wasn't all moving.  There was a bunch of focusing and relaxation, and running it through my head before I did anything.

2013-01-11 9:15 AM
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I used a fluid trainer for years,and loved being on my bike. I sold my bike and trainer (wasnt a perfect fit and did not think i needed it). A friend I have Asked if i wAnted his cyclops pt3000 it needs some work. It needed a new chain! So a lucky find by me! But i would get a fluid trainer again in a heart beat!
2013-01-11 9:21 AM
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jlangene - 2013-01-10 11:48 PM
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jlangene - 2013-01-11 6:55 AM

Looks like I will not get my 10 mile bike ride in outside today.  We already have 20 mph winds outside and forecast says they will get up to 45 mph with 60-70 mph gusts.  I think I will go spend an hour on the stationary bike in the gym instead.  Hope everyone has better weather for their training than we are!  Shins are a little sore this morning, but not too bad.  

I am starting to get a little nervous about the upcoming Bataan.  I have 65 days left prior to the march.  I intend on marching, not running the 26.2 mile course, but my mileages now are only topping out at 4 miles in a session.  Would it be beneficial to change my Saturday long jog into a walking session and increase the mileage?  For example, I was thinking about this Saturday instead of the timed jog session I have scheduled do a 6 mile walk.  Then increase the distance 2 miles per week, which would get me up to about 22 miles the week prior to the march.  Advice?

Figure out your "A" race and train for that. I would stick to running. If you can run 4 miles, you can walk 26.2 miles. just my two cents! 

have a great weekend.

Ok stupid newbie question, what is an "A" race?  Is that the main race you want to complete?

 

'A' Race as I understand, it is your highest priority race and you should taylor your training towards that. Basically the race in which you want to perform at the highest level I guess... I have not yet had enough races in a year, or a solid enough training plan to really figure this out...but basically. prioritizing.

2013-01-11 9:26 AM
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thor67 - 2013-01-10 10:50 PM
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Doug good job on the weight loss.

I got up for the second time in a row at 4:45, I did hit snooze 2x, was awake but read the paper on my phone in bed since I have a treadmill and spin bike in my basement so that saved my 15 minutes to go to the gym. Kept on the plan (run and bike) felt good but tired at the same time. Plan is to wake up early and stretch and go to the pool in the morning. 

Good job everyone!

 

I think I am going to hit up the online trading posts here and get myself a spin bike for the basement...that our scrounge a trainer off of friends, because the past two days I have wanted to hit the gym, and it has not happened...

Go for the cycle trainer, puts you on your bike in the proper position. Killer workouts on the cycle trainer. if you can afford to get fluid type, apparently much quieter, although mine seems noisy.

 

Yeah, I definitely like the idea of the trainer better.



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Re: Bicycle trainers - Performance Bike usually has some good deals on new trainers, and  name-brand trainers like Kurt Kinetic and Cycleops are durable and good to pick-up used; Craigslist is a great source.  

 

Workout #10 today - I've been busy at home and work and workouts, so the last few days have been on 6 hours of sleep, and I'm feeling it; my recovery just isn't there now, so I skipped lifting today and decided to get an LSD run in.  15k, for a personal best, in 1:45.  The last three miles were rough, and the whole thing was rough, and I'm still feeling gassed three hours later.  

I think the answer is pretty self-explanatory, for the distance-runners here, at what point do you start needing to eat on the run?  From cycling, I know the rule of thumb is about 200 to 300 calories per hour after the first hour, preferably from simple carbs.  I presume the same applies to running?

Swimming and Spinning brick tomorrow, hopefully after a nice full meal tonight (Shepherd's pie, one of my specialities, with sweet potato) and a full night's rest, and then house hunting in the afternoon.

2013-01-11 10:25 AM
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justinfss - 2013-01-11 8:21 AM
jlangene - 2013-01-10 11:48 PM
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jlangene - 2013-01-11 6:55 AM

Looks like I will not get my 10 mile bike ride in outside today.  We already have 20 mph winds outside and forecast says they will get up to 45 mph with 60-70 mph gusts.  I think I will go spend an hour on the stationary bike in the gym instead.  Hope everyone has better weather for their training than we are!  Shins are a little sore this morning, but not too bad.  

I am starting to get a little nervous about the upcoming Bataan.  I have 65 days left prior to the march.  I intend on marching, not running the 26.2 mile course, but my mileages now are only topping out at 4 miles in a session.  Would it be beneficial to change my Saturday long jog into a walking session and increase the mileage?  For example, I was thinking about this Saturday instead of the timed jog session I have scheduled do a 6 mile walk.  Then increase the distance 2 miles per week, which would get me up to about 22 miles the week prior to the march.  Advice?

Figure out your "A" race and train for that. I would stick to running. If you can run 4 miles, you can walk 26.2 miles. just my two cents! 

have a great weekend.

Ok stupid newbie question, what is an "A" race?  Is that the main race you want to complete?

 

'A' Race as I understand, it is your highest priority race and you should taylor your training towards that. Basically the race in which you want to perform at the highest level I guess... I have not yet had enough races in a year, or a solid enough training plan to really figure this out...but basically. prioritizing.

Correct! Basically whatever race is most important to you. Your training should work backwards from that race depending on what kind of program you are on...12wk, 16wk, etc.

2013-01-11 11:47 AM
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mirthfuldragon - 2013-01-11 10:53 AM

Swimming and Spinning brick tomorrow, hopefully after a nice full meal tonight (Shepherd's pie, one of my specialities, with sweet potato) and a full night's rest, and then house hunting in the afternoon.

 

Yummy!  What time should we be over for dinner  ... FedEx will overnight food right? lol

 

Enjoy, sounds like you have earned it.

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jlangene - 2013-01-11 7:55 AM

Looks like I will not get my 10 mile bike ride in outside today.  We already have 20 mph winds outside and forecast says they will get up to 45 mph with 60-70 mph gusts.  I think I will go spend an hour on the stationary bike in the gym instead.  Hope everyone has better weather for their training than we are!  Shins are a little sore this morning, but not too bad.  

I am starting to get a little nervous about the upcoming Bataan.  I have 65 days left prior to the march.  I intend on marching, not running the 26.2 mile course, but my mileages now are only topping out at 4 miles in a session.  Would it be beneficial to change my Saturday long jog into a walking session and increase the mileage?  For example, I was thinking about this Saturday instead of the timed jog session I have scheduled do a 6 mile walk.  Then increase the distance 2 miles per week, which would get me up to about 22 miles the week prior to the march.  Advice?

Hey Jared - First off - Justin is right on about the A race.  It's the race or set of races that are most important to you and that you plan your entire season around.

You are asking a really good question about what to do about your milage.  I took a look at your logs and I'd say you are smart in cutting back your milage/effort.  From what I saw - you've been running about two months now (and that is awesome!) but you've really been putting on the miles.  Proof of that is the fact that you are pretty close if not passed your milage for December and its only 12 days into January.  

So, I would turn the run into a walk and then I would take next week as a rest week, where you should cut your milage/effort by 1/3 to 1/2 depending on how sore you are.  After that, I'd walk for a couple of weeks and keep up the biking.  Once you feel strong - the start to add back in the jogging a minute at a time.  Not only will this let you complete the march but you will be in a great position for your sprint in June.  

Taking it easy is the smart play (even though your brain thinks its a set back).  I'm still trying to learn this lesson.  But by avoiding injury - you will continue to gain strength while dropping the weight and you'll have the energy to accomplish your #1 goal of being the best dad possible.

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mirthfuldragon - 2013-01-11 9:53 AM

Workout #10 today - I've been busy at home and work and workouts, so the last few days have been on 6 hours of sleep, and I'm feeling it; my recovery just isn't there now, so I skipped lifting today and decided to get an LSD run in.  15k, for a personal best, in 1:45.  The last three miles were rough, and the whole thing was rough, and I'm still feeling gassed three hours later.  

I think the answer is pretty self-explanatory, for the distance-runners here, at what point do you start needing to eat on the run?  From cycling, I know the rule of thumb is about 200 to 300 calories per hour after the first hour, preferably from simple carbs.  I presume the same applies to running?

Swimming and Spinning brick tomorrow, hopefully after a nice full meal tonight (Shepherd's pie, one of my specialities, with sweet potato) and a full night's rest, and then house hunting in the afternoon.

Charles - I believe you have hit the nail on the head.  It's time to start taking a bar or some gu with you before you head out on a run.  I also think part of the reason why you are tired is because you are putting in some serious milage (especially in the run) and haven't given yourself a break in a month.  I'd try to squeeze in an easy week and see how you feel.



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Proud to report that I made it through the cleanse and colonoscopy unscathed.  As it turned out - it really wasn't bad - although I was bummed out I didn't get to see the inside of my colon on a big screen TV!  And most importantly, it proved that I have dodged my mom's colon cancer at least for another 5 years!

Gonna take it easy today and then tomorrow I plan on getting my yoga sesson in along with a ride.  

Thanks for the support and have a great weekend!

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Proud to report that I made it through the cleanse and colonoscopy unscathed.  As it turned out - it really wasn't bad - although I was bummed out I didn't get to see the inside of my colon on a big screen TV!  And most importantly, it proved that I have dodged my mom's colon cancer at least for another 5 years!

Gonna take it easy today and then tomorrow I plan on getting my yoga sesson in along with a ride.  

Thanks for the support and have a great weekend!

Nice to start the weekend on a good note!  Yeah!

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Qua17 - 2013-01-11 1:31 PM

Proud to report that I made it through the cleanse and colonoscopy unscathed.  As it turned out - it really wasn't bad - although I was bummed out I didn't get to see the inside of my colon on a big screen TV!  And most importantly, it proved that I have dodged my mom's colon cancer at least for another 5 years!

Gonna take it easy today and then tomorrow I plan on getting my yoga sesson in along with a ride.  

Thanks for the support and have a great weekend!

 

Great news.  Talking about the big screen, maybe MTV could make a reality show about these procedures.  Heck it would still be better than Jersey Shore.  When I did mine thank goodness I didn't see it either.



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Ok, how are we counting our 30/30?  20 mins counts as one?  

I am exhausted...awoke at 3:30, couldn't get back to sleep until about 15 mins before the alarm went off...hit the snooze, a lot!  What woke me up was the baby crying...he had a bad tummy ache, left late, two inches of snow on the ground...barely made it to work on time, (usually 20 mins to a half an hour early)...I am exhausted! Oh said that!

Ate horribly yesterday, buffet at the casino with some friends from work.  No need for dinner still too full.  No time for breakfast this morning but I did grab an egg white, spinach & mushroom omlet on a whole wheat bagel at 10 this morning!  Yummo!  

I am supposed to drive to So Cal this weekend and have plans to go to Disneyland...not sure if that is going to happen since it snowed in Northern Los Angeles and they are expecting more bad weather.  Bitter sweet, excited about disneyland but hate to give the kid back...I will miss him terribly!

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Quick post, as I'm back from SF but buried...

Burd - rock on in the pool!  You'll be lapping away in no time.

Cassady - awesome on hitting your goal early!

Here, I managed to run 3/4 days in San Fran with a ton of hillwork (and one day of killer hill reps).  Gonna get a tempo run in tonight and run this weekend, as my bike is STILL in the LBS (despite dropping it a week and a half ago for fixing up).  Frustrating, but I need to run anyway...

 



Have a great weekend all!  Back in force in a couple days when I come up for air.

 

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Burd - 2013-01-11 2:47 AM
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Swimming and Spinning brick tomorrow, hopefully after a nice full meal tonight (Shepherd's pie, one of my specialities, with sweet potato) and a full night's rest, and then house hunting in the afternoon.

 

Yummy!  What time should we be over for dinner  ... FedEx will overnight food right? lol

 

Enjoy, sounds like you have earned it.

 

Thanks for the trainer tip...I'll see if I can work it into the budget, possibly by cancelling my gym membership which it would make redundant.

....and yeah I think we would all like to check out that Recipe!!! Post it up!

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Burd - 2013-01-11 4:08 AM
Qua17 - 2013-01-11 1:31 PM

Proud to report that I made it through the cleanse and colonoscopy unscathed.  As it turned out - it really wasn't bad - although I was bummed out I didn't get to see the inside of my colon on a big screen TV!  And most importantly, it proved that I have dodged my mom's colon cancer at least for another 5 years!

Gonna take it easy today and then tomorrow I plan on getting my yoga sesson in along with a ride.  

Thanks for the support and have a great weekend!

 

Great news.  Talking about the big screen, maybe MTV could make a reality show about these procedures.  Heck it would still be better than Jersey Shore.  When I did mine thank goodness I didn't see it either.

 

Alright.... maybe I am weird but I thought it was pretty cool taking a tour of my colon on a 46 inch HDTV.... kind of a biological mining exploration, if you will!

100% with you on the MTV pitch Alex....much better than the reality show "crap" on now...Honey Boo Boo....Everyday I am losing faith in society because of the "Crap" that is mainstream media!

 

I mean...

Holy CRAP!!!!......

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SportzVision - 2013-01-11 4:43 AM

Ok, how are we counting our 30/30?  20 mins counts as one?  

I am exhausted...awoke at 3:30, couldn't get back to sleep until about 15 mins before the alarm went off...hit the snooze, a lot!  What woke me up was the baby crying...he had a bad tummy ache, left late, two inches of snow on the ground...barely made it to work on time, (usually 20 mins to a half an hour early)...I am exhausted! Oh said that!

Ate horribly yesterday, buffet at the casino with some friends from work.  No need for dinner still too full.  No time for breakfast this morning but I did grab an egg white, spinach & mushroom omlet on a whole wheat bagel at 10 this morning!  Yummo!  

I am supposed to drive to So Cal this weekend and have plans to go to Disneyland...not sure if that is going to happen since it snowed in Northern Los Angeles and they are expecting more bad weather.  Bitter sweet, excited about disneyland but hate to give the kid back...I will miss him terribly!

 

My understanding, but Thor can clarify is that they have to be separate workouts, but 'At Least' 20 mins long...

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SportzVision - 2013-01-11 4:43 AM

Ok, how are we counting our 30/30?  20 mins counts as one?  

I am exhausted...awoke at 3:30, couldn't get back to sleep until about 15 mins before the alarm went off...hit the snooze, a lot!  What woke me up was the baby crying...he had a bad tummy ache, left late, two inches of snow on the ground...barely made it to work on time, (usually 20 mins to a half an hour early)...I am exhausted! Oh said that!

Ate horribly yesterday, buffet at the casino with some friends from work.  No need for dinner still too full.  No time for breakfast this morning but I did grab an egg white, spinach & mushroom omlet on a whole wheat bagel at 10 this morning!  Yummo!  

I am supposed to drive to So Cal this weekend and have plans to go to Disneyland...not sure if that is going to happen since it snowed in Northern Los Angeles and they are expecting more bad weather.  Bitter sweet, excited about disneyland but hate to give the kid back...I will miss him terribly!

 

My understanding, but Thor can clarify is that they have to be separate workouts, but 'At Least' 20 mins long...

20minutes is the minimum, separate workouts. As long as you are getting your workouts in I am happy!

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good to see everyone getting some workouts in! 

I know I have troubles with my weekends as I tend to eat and drink in excess. My plan for weekend is couple of happy hour beers with the inlaws, than I coach my son's hockey game tonite. 

Tomorrow...bacon and eggs for breakfast. Go on cycle trainer. (skipped my run after yesterdays workouts)

Sunday, spin class, coach my 5 yr old daughter's first ever hockey game(super fun).

That will complete my weeks goals that I set out to complete!

Have a great weekend everyone!



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8/11 for the month.  Put in 2 workouts today.  Tomorrow is a rest day.  Well if you can call it that since i will be at the soccer fields from 8:30 to 2:30 for our first tournament.  We got this.  Our team name is, get ready, remember they are 7 and 8....."Dream Killers" Don't ask how they came up with this but they did.

Smoked the run.  All the juicy details are in my log.

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jlangene - 2013-01-11 5:55 AM

Looks like I will not get my 10 mile bike ride in outside today.  We already have 20 mph winds outside and forecast says they will get up to 45 mph with 60-70 mph gusts.  I think I will go spend an hour on the stationary bike in the gym instead.  Hope everyone has better weather for their training than we are!  Shins are a little sore this morning, but not too bad.  

I am starting to get a little nervous about the upcoming Bataan.  I have 65 days left prior to the march.  I intend on marching, not running the 26.2 mile course, but my mileages now are only topping out at 4 miles in a session.  Would it be beneficial to change my Saturday long jog into a walking session and increase the mileage?  For example, I was thinking about this Saturday instead of the timed jog session I have scheduled do a 6 mile walk.  Then increase the distance 2 miles per week, which would get me up to about 22 miles the week prior to the march.  Advice?

That sounds great, you may even find after a while that your able to mess with a run/walk percentage in your marching workout after you get used to distances.
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SportzVision - 2013-01-11 4:43 AM

Ok, how are we counting our 30/30?  20 mins counts as one?  

I am exhausted...awoke at 3:30, couldn't get back to sleep until about 15 mins before the alarm went off...hit the snooze, a lot!  What woke me up was the baby crying...he had a bad tummy ache, left late, two inches of snow on the ground...barely made it to work on time, (usually 20 mins to a half an hour early)...I am exhausted! Oh said that!

Ate horribly yesterday, buffet at the casino with some friends from work.  No need for dinner still too full.  No time for breakfast this morning but I did grab an egg white, spinach & mushroom omlet on a whole wheat bagel at 10 this morning!  Yummo!  

I am supposed to drive to So Cal this weekend and have plans to go to Disneyland...not sure if that is going to happen since it snowed in Northern Los Angeles and they are expecting more bad weather.  Bitter sweet, excited about disneyland but hate to give the kid back...I will miss him terribly!

 

My understanding, but Thor can clarify is that they have to be separate workouts, but 'At Least' 20 mins long...

20minutes is the minimum, separate workouts. As long as you are getting your workouts in I am happy!

My litlle walks up the stairs for a cold beer don't count?  Cry
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mirthfuldragon - 2013-01-11 7:53 AM

Re: Bicycle trainers - Performance Bike usually has some good deals on new trainers, and  name-brand trainers like Kurt Kinetic and Cycleops are durable and good to pick-up used; Craigslist is a great source.  

 

Workout #10 today - I've been busy at home and work and workouts, so the last few days have been on 6 hours of sleep, and I'm feeling it; my recovery just isn't there now, so I skipped lifting today and decided to get an LSD run in.  15k, for a personal best, in 1:45.  The last three miles were rough, and the whole thing was rough, and I'm still feeling gassed three hours later.  

I think the answer is pretty self-explanatory, for the distance-runners here, at what point do you start needing to eat on the run?  From cycling, I know the rule of thumb is about 200 to 300 calories per hour after the first hour, preferably from simple carbs.  I presume the same applies to running?

Swimming and Spinning brick tomorrow, hopefully after a nice full meal tonight (Shepherd's pie, one of my specialities, with sweet potato) and a full night's rest, and then house hunting in the afternoon.

On my long runs, anything under 10 miles, I'm good w/o water or gel.  Once I hit 10 miles, 1:20 ish, or over, I drink fluid every mile, and take a gel every 4 miles.  This increases with temps and the longer the run.  (so for a 16 miler, I take 3-4 gels) After 20, I may do a gel every 3 miles.  I realize I am overkill on this, but if I underkill this, I end up crying like a baby on the side of the road with wicked calf cramps that lock me up.  In a marathon, I take 8 gels with and drink 70+ oz. of water that I carry in cammleback + what's on the course.  I eat solids prior to anything over 10 as well, but never eat while running.

I found this formula in training, and it works for me.  You will find what works for you, and go with it, but anything over 1:30, 1:45, you should be replenishing with electrolytes, carbs and fluids.

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