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2008-10-24 12:48 PM
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PennState - 2008-10-23 3:07 PM Hey great discussion To clarify, I am planning on adding 2 20-30 min runs per week without taking too much away from the bike. I am just experimenting... But in the winter I have a horrible time enjoying the trainer and extra running will be a plus.

A run cycle for those of us leaving in the north with tough winters is a great way to build up your fitness/speed. I can only ride so much on the trainer and some times riding outside is just not an option due to icey roads or temps below 20s, hence running more (or swimming) helps. You can keep 2-3x trainer sessions and just do short (45-60 min) intense (Z4) sessions focusing towards increasing your power threshold and work on more volume for running (run lots)

As the winter fades away you can then run a bit less and start going longer on the bike.



2008-10-24 8:48 PM
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Interesting thread. I can certainly say I never had an injury prior to starting to train for tris. When I was just running, I was doing 35-40 miles a week, almost always 7 days a week, with my mileage in a fairly constrained range betw. 4 and 10.5 miles a day. During tri season, I'm typically running about 18-22 miles a week, 3-4 runs a week. I've actually gotten faster, but I've also experienced greater frequency of minor injuries (runners knee last winter, Achilles strain this summer, that sort of thing), esp. when I upped my mileage for marathon prep. Don't know if the one thing has anything to do with the other...it could be I'm just gettin' up in years...
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PennState - 2008-10-22 6:29 PM

I was talking with a very good runner who is 56. He has been running since he was in his early 20s. He has been relatively injury free and was sharing some thoughts with me:

1. Running 3 times a week (as many of us tri people do) is much worse than runningĀ  times per week and maintaining the run base. He believes it makes us more injury prone.

2. He suggested adding two 20-30 min. runs a week to make the total 5 to reduce injury.

Wgat are your thoughts?




Sounds similar to Jack Daniels, who says runners shouldn't have their long runs be more than 25-30% of their weekly mileage for injury prevention reasons. His reasoning is that the long run will be too hard on the connective tissues if it is too big of a training load.

However, Daniels says to be sensible about this, and that a person only running 3 or 4 times per week wouldn't really fit in these guidelines. Add in the cycling, which strengthens some of the connective tissues even more, and you can get away with a little more.

More than frequency for the sake of frequency, I think being sensible about your long run is more important, and if you're only running 3 times per week a second long run would be a good idea. For example, there's a big difference between running 13m/10m/7m per week and running 20m/5m/5m per week, even though the training load may be the same. The later, in my opinion, is asking for trouble, at least for a large sample of people.

That said, as long as it doesn't effect the quality of your other runs, I think adding a couple 20-30 min runs off the bike is a great way to get more running done...



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