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cobratodd - 2011-02-08 2:44 PM There is a lot to do there in the White mountains - it's a beautiful part of the country.


I have heard great things about the area. I am very excited to vacation in the area. I rarely get to the east coast. I always go west.


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TracyV - 2011-02-08 3:08 PM

Ok, I have airline tickets and a cabin rented. Does anyone know how quick this baby fills up?? This is my first HIM. I am a bit tense about throwing down the $300. We can turn it into a mini vacation if I anything goes wrong.


This fills up quickly and will sell out if you wait. Jump in, it is a great race!
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Pulled the trigger. I am in!!!
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Hey everyone, I'm signed up! This will be my first HIM and I'm pretty excited. I heard some people who've done the race in previous years rented houses to stay in instead of hotels. I should have a pretty big group racing with me (about 6-8 ppl) and was wondering if anyone had tips on how to look for houses.

Otherwise I'm pretty pumped for the race!
2011-02-18 8:23 PM
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I need some advice from experienced half ironman athletes; this will be my first HIM, so I have the standard 1,000 questions that will all evaporate after August 21, but at this point I'm looking to figure out what I should use for hydration during the bike.  I have one of those hydro-cell two chamber things that goes between the aero bars, and an Xlab two bottle holder behind the seat.  My main objective is to survive, 2nd objective is to complete this in 6.5 hours, so I will not be worrying about seconds as much as I am about avoiding cramping, bonking, running out of gas, etc.  I'm dealing with 6'3 and 215 pounds of 41 year old.

1)  I'm not sure what I have will be enough for me to ride and run on, any guidelines? 
2)  how do you refill if any, on the ride?
3)  What should I be trying out while training so I know what works and what doesn't - a protein drink, carb drink, water, electrolyte, Jack Daniel's??
4)  How much food/energy bars should be stuffed on the bike? 

I really appreciate any advice, so thank you in advance.
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2011-02-19 11:45 AM
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cobratodd - 2011-02-18 9:23 PM I need some advice from experienced half ironman athletes; this will be my first HIM, so I have the standard 1,000 questions that will all evaporate after August 21, but at this point I'm looking to figure out what I should use for hydration during the bike.  I have one of those hydro-cell two chamber things that goes between the aero bars, and an Xlab two bottle holder behind the seat.  My main objective is to survive, 2nd objective is to complete this in 6.5 hours, so I will not be worrying about seconds as much as I am about avoiding cramping, bonking, running out of gas, etc.  I'm dealing with 6'3 and 215 pounds of 41 year old.

1)  I'm not sure what I have will be enough for me to ride and run on, any guidelines? 
2)  how do you refill if any, on the ride?
3)  What should I be trying out while training so I know what works and what doesn't - a protein drink, carb drink, water, electrolyte, Jack Daniel's??
4)  How much food/energy bars should be stuffed on the bike? 

I really appreciate any advice, so thank you in advance.
Todd 


1) are you talking about your overall conditioning?
2) there are aid stations on the bike with volunteers holding up water, sports drinks, power bars, and gels....you can either stop and grab them, or you pitch the bottle prior to the aid station (there is a box with a target on it) and you  grab a bottle while moving and replace your bottle holder with the new bottle....or you can carry all of your liquids with you. I'd recommend refilling along the route to save on space and weight.
3) keep it simple. I started out with a complex eating plan, and by race day I was down to Gu and water. I'd start with some diluted gatorade and gels and or or bars. I eat every 30 mins on the bike and run. This is what works for me, but you will need to figure it out. Basically, on your first long rides, eat too much. Then on future long rides reduce the number of calories until you find the right balance. Basically if you can ride for 3 hours @ race pace and brick run it for 30 mins and only then need a gel @ 30 mins, you prolly ate enough on the bike and paced it well. I used ALL of my long rides and brick runs to figure out nutrition. I practiced for MONTHS until I got it right.
4) I guess I stuffed that into the above

Practice, practice, practice nutrition on those long rides! I am sure there are formulas out there that take your body weight and determine a rough calorie/hour & liquid/hour guess. I would use that as a starting point? Is it body weight x 2 = calories per hour? I can't remember, but @ 150 pounds I was downing roughly 300 calories an hour and it worked for me for a HIM. 20 oz of liquid/hour worked for me to match my sweat rate.

Good luck!


2011-03-09 8:28 AM
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Welcome Cory!  Congrats on your first HIM.  This will be my second, I did the Austin HIM last year.  As far as housing.  Many of the events for the weekend are actually held within the Gunstock Mountain Resort.  If you go to their site you can seach for lodging.  Many of the options have suites and cabins that can house more people.  They will vary on location and price.  They also vary on level of accomodation from resort and spa to bare bones. 

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2011-03-09 9:34 AM
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cobratodd - 2011-02-18 9:23 PM

I need some advice from experienced half ironman athletes; this will be my first HIM, so I have the standard 1,000 questions that will all evaporate after August 21, but at this point I'm looking to figure out what I should use for hydration during the bike.  I have one of those hydro-cell two chamber things that goes between the aero bars, and an Xlab two bottle holder behind the seat.  My main objective is to survive, 2nd objective is to complete this in 6.5 hours, so I will not be worrying about seconds as much as I am about avoiding cramping, bonking, running out of gas, etc.  I'm dealing with 6'3 and 215 pounds of 41 year old.

1)  I'm not sure what I have will be enough for me to ride and run on, any guidelines? 
2)  how do you refill if any, on the ride?
3)  What should I be trying out while training so I know what works and what doesn't - a protein drink, carb drink, water, electrolyte, Jack Daniel's??
4)  How much food/energy bars should be stuffed on the bike? 

I really appreciate any advice, so thank you in advance.
Todd 


Todd, I can relate. I am 6'4" and currently 230+. There are a lot of questions when you first dive into the 70.3 distance or any distance for that matter. When it comes to nutrition, you are an experiment of one. Use your training to see what works for you. There will be plenty of nutrition on the course, so you might think about training with what will be offered at the aide stations. That way you can live off the course and not have to carry so much. The weather will be a big factor with your hydration. August can be warm...or not...in NH. Do try to keep it simple though. The more complex that you make your plan, the more you will need to carry and remember. Here is what I did last year at Timberman. I am not an expert so take it for what it is worth.

5 a.m. Two cliff bars and a large coffee (almost 500 cals). Between 6 - 8 gatorade (200 cals) and water. You will hit the swim in waves and it can take some time depending on your wave. I sip a little water and have one gel before I enter the water (90 cals). On the bike, I shoot for 400 cals an hour from gatorade and gels. I am on the bike for just over three hours. I carry the gels but get the gatorade from the course. On the run, I dial it back to 300 cals per hour (water, gels, gatorade). It took me 6 hours to finish last year. Gatorade sits well in my stomach, as does the gels, especially on the run. However, if the drink changes from year to year, I still use it. I use whatever is on the course, as it is easier that way.

Just my $0.02.
2011-03-09 9:36 AM
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Practice, practice, practice nutrition on those long rides! I am sure there are formulas out there that take your body weight and determine a rough calorie/hour & liquid/hour guess. I would use that as a starting point? Is it body weight x 2 = calories per hour? I can't remember, but @ 150 pounds I was downing roughly 300 calories an hour and it worked for me for a HIM. 20 oz of liquid/hour worked for me to match my sweat rate.

Good luck!


Practice, practice, practice...this is great advice. You really want to have a plan in plan based on your training. You may or may not get to follow your plan, but you do not want to go in blind.
2011-03-20 5:42 AM
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Anyone knows how many people are signed up already for the race by any chance? 

2011-03-20 5:47 AM
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Web site shows about 1,900 as of 2/28


2011-03-20 5:50 AM
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Thanks, I guess I should hurry up then :p
2011-03-27 5:52 AM
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Anyone who has been there before that could give me a hint or two about which hotel to choose?

Which one is close to the start line and not too expensive? 

Thank you in advance

2011-03-28 7:37 PM
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After obsessively thinking about this race since this time last year, I finally registered!  Will be my first half ironman.  My heart sank a little when I pushed the registration button (out of both fear and excitement).  Next step is to find a place to stay....

I am also trying to figure out the best training plan for me, and need to do it quick since next week marks 20 weeks until the race! Does any one have experience with the BT beginner half plan? 

Kaitlin

2011-03-28 7:43 PM
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Welcome to the club!!!  I'm in the same boat as you, said "what the heck" and pressed submit - we can do it though!!!  1 hour each morning before work 4x a week, 1 hour after work 3x a week and a big day on the weekend.  That's my plan - I'm not sure I can follow the BT 20 week program.  Goal to get in tons of miles on the bike, build the run slowly up to 13 miles by July 15th, and swim, not to get faster, but to build endurance so I'm not tried when I hit the bike.  There nice and simple, right?  Best of luck, let me know how you are progressing every now and then...

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2011-03-28 8:04 PM
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well when you put it that way, it doesn't sound so overwhelming...thanks!


2011-03-29 8:45 AM
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I found this place to stay for $89 a night:

Rodeway Inn Tilton
788 Laconia Rd
Tilton, NH  03276
603-524-6897

It's a little ways away from the starting line, but within reason.  Not sure if they have any vacant rooms left.

 

2011-03-31 10:56 AM
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I used the BT 1/2 Iron last year and it worked well for me.  I completed the Austin 1/2 Iron in under 7 1/2 hours.  I am following it this year as well as I have added in some plyometrics due to chronic calf injuries.  (Not a result of the program). 

I would also suggest that you put another smaller race in your schedule.  Like a Sprint or olympic distance.  Then you can gage how the program is working for you.  I had my Olympic race at week 9. 

Good luck and have fun... DJ



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We're 20 weeks out now--time to jump into the training plans.  Anyone else run 40 minutes and swim 2500 yards today?
2011-04-04 7:55 PM
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I was doing so well! Getting ready to hit the training program hard, then the plague hit me - wholly- molly am i sick now. Really gets me mad. Gotta recover and stay focused!
2011-04-05 7:00 AM
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Day 1 done! 2500 yards in the pool was a little boring. Can't wait to get outside to swim and only have to do 2 really long laps out and back across Walden pond!

That plague is a rough one.  Everyone where I work was passing it back and forth for most of feb and march.  You'll come back and be ready to go in a week or so!

Kaitlin



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Hi All.  I am registered for this bad boy.  It will be my first HIM as well.  So looking forward to the experience.

I've had a good winter maintaining my run fitness and working on my swim but about a month ago I pulled my back out playing catch with my son and just back at my training now.  Hopefully I'll be able to get back up fairly quickly.

This yr is only my second yr particiopating in triathlons.  Last yr I had the hardest time staying calm in my OWS when training.  Race day I seem to be fine but the shadows from the deep dark bottom of the lakes get my heart racing like no other.  Any recs on how to stay calm?  Will I get over this in time?

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Hi Mighty Mom,

In a similar place with my experience level, except I'm more comfortable with the swim, and not as good with the run.  I will say the swim will get better with more time in the water - that's about the only way to get over it.

 

Good luck, and hope to see you there.

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I have only been racing one year more than you, and always have the same open water issue for the first few swims as well.  I have found that it just goes away the more you get in there.  Hopefully you can do an open water swim at least once a week to get used to the idea that JAWS does not actually live in a pond (maybe that is just my fear

By the way, halfway though week 2 and I can no longer stay awake past 9pm and want to eat everything in sight...



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hmm.  I did at least one OWS a week all last summer (June-Aug).  I was just as anxious the last swim as I was the first.  It's not just the fear of jaws (yeah, me too).  The thought od snakes and the news story about jellyfish at Walden do not help my anxiety levels. 

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