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mcgilmartin - 2012-10-03 8:15 PM BO has been getting softballs from the media, his sycophants, and everyone in Europe the last 3 years.  Big surprise he's getting diced by Romney tonight.

Yeah, I totally agree!



2012-10-03 9:18 PM
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Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country.
2012-10-03 9:19 PM
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I love the "trickle down government"  quote
2012-10-03 9:22 PM
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JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:18 PM Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country.

Josh my friend, play rewind. Mitt wasn't my first choice but he's all I have and I do believe he is the JOBS man, way, way, way, better than B.O. All I know for sure, is B.O. s*cks and Mitt can only go up from there. (Gee, it's so hard to pull an opinion out of me lol!)

 

2012-10-03 9:23 PM
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ugh 90billion and 716billion should be drinking words.
2012-10-03 9:26 PM
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PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:22 PM

JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:18 PM Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country.

Josh my friend, play rewind. Mitt wasn't my first choice but he's all I have and I do believe he is the JOBS man, way, way, way, better than B.O. All I know for sure, is B.O. s*cks and Mitt can only go up from there. (Gee, it's so hard to pull an opinion out of me lol!)

 

 

Deirdre, they both suck. Romney is complaining about trillion dollar deficits under Obama, but he will continue them because there is no way they will cut spending enough for there not to be. We can all pretend these guys will do what they say, but money talks. These guys are raising a billion dollars for their campaign. The people giving them the money are the ones calling the shots and they certainly aren't going to beg either of them to cut spending or remove tax loopholes.



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2012-10-03 9:26 PM
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mehaner - 2012-10-03 9:23 PM ugh 90billion and 716billion should be drinking words.

I'm shocked I haven't heard 47% yet from Obama

2012-10-03 9:28 PM
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tuwood - 2012-10-03 8:26 PM

mehaner - 2012-10-03 9:23 PM ugh 90billion and 716billion should be drinking words.

I'm shocked I haven't heard 47% yet from Obama

That is shocking! Wonder if he forgot b/c he didn't have his trusty tele-prompter.

2012-10-03 9:29 PM
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where is gary johnson!!???!
2012-10-03 9:30 PM
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mehaner - 2012-10-03 8:29 PM where is gary johnson!!???!

Nobody supports any of his positions.

2012-10-03 9:30 PM
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just saw this tweet.  I'm guessing she didn't think Obama did very well

 

It's almost over and Barry is finally on the offense 

 



2012-10-03 9:33 PM
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JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:26 PM
PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:22 PM

JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:18 PM Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country.

Josh my friend, play rewind. Mitt wasn't my first choice but he's all I have and I do believe he is the JOBS man, way, way, way, better than B.O. All I know for sure, is B.O. s*cks and Mitt can only go up from there. (Gee, it's so hard to pull an opinion out of me lol!)

 

 

Deirdre, they both suck. Romney is complaining about trillion dollar deficits under Obama, but he will continue them because there is no way they will cut spending enough for there not to be. We can all pretend these guys will do what they say, but money talks. These guys are raising a billion dollars for their campaign. The people giving them the money are the ones calling the shots and they certainly aren't going to beg either of them to cut spending or remove tax loopholes.

You and my husband are in the same camp, doesn't trust either of them. Really doesn't matter who it is, I know it's all big $ but I have to go with the guy that at least represents the values and goals I'm looking for. I just feel more optimistic with Mitt b/c he's been out there, governed, created jobs, he actually has experience with what I feel this country needs. For me there's no other choice, I will vote and it's a clear choice even with all the big money cr*p that goes along with the office.

2012-10-03 9:35 PM
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tuwood - 2012-10-03 8:30 PM

just saw this tweet.  I'm guessing she didn't think Obama did very well

 

It's almost over and Barry is finally on the offense 

 

 

Maybe she does have a brain, ha-ha!

 

2012-10-03 9:38 PM
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Uh Oh, Bill Maher too

 

Obama made a lot of great points tonight. Unfortunately, most of them were for Romney

 

2012-10-03 9:40 PM
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Romney killed him. Even AC360 is saying so.
2012-10-03 9:40 PM
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Obama got his arse handed to him tonight.  


2012-10-03 9:42 PM
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PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:33 PM
JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:26 PM
PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:22 PM

JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:18 PM Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country.

Josh my friend, play rewind. Mitt wasn't my first choice but he's all I have and I do believe he is the JOBS man, way, way, way, better than B.O. All I know for sure, is B.O. s*cks and Mitt can only go up from there. (Gee, it's so hard to pull an opinion out of me lol!)

 

 

Deirdre, they both suck. Romney is complaining about trillion dollar deficits under Obama, but he will continue them because there is no way they will cut spending enough for there not to be. We can all pretend these guys will do what they say, but money talks. These guys are raising a billion dollars for their campaign. The people giving them the money are the ones calling the shots and they certainly aren't going to beg either of them to cut spending or remove tax loopholes.

You and my husband are in the same camp, doesn't trust either of them. Really doesn't matter who it is, I know it's all big $ but I have to go with the guy that at least represents the values and goals I'm looking for. I just feel more optimistic with Mitt b/c he's been out there, governed, created jobs, he actually has experience with what I feel this country needs. For me there's no other choice, I will vote and it's a clear choice even with all the big money cr*p that goes along with the office.

I think that's the big joke on the American people. There is no choice. They both talk like they think there is but there's not. Would you like to see my chart I made showing how great the RYan budget will fix the deficit?

Assumptions: 15 Trillion GDP to start, 16 Trillion debt, constant 3.0% GDP growth every year, no exceptions

I plugged in the numbers of Ryan's road map to prosperity Table A-II-1 to see how it would project. All numbers are in trillions.

 

ETA: Debt/GDP %column

YEARGDPDEFICIT %DEFICIT DOLLARSDEBT/GDP %  YEARGDPDEFICIT %DEFICIT DOLLARSDEBT/GDP %
2011  16.00   204742.2083.20%56.53134%
201215.0003.50%16.53110%  204843.4742.90%57.79133%
201315.4503.50%17.07110%  204944.7782.70%59.00132%
201415.9143.60%17.64111%  205046.1222.60%60.20131%
201516.3913.20%18.16111%  205147.5052.40%61.34129%
201616.8833.40%18.74111%  205248.9312.20%62.41128%
201717.3893.10%19.28111%  205350.3981.90%63.37126%
201817.9113.10%19.83111%  205451.9101.90%64.36124%
201918.4483.80%20.53111%  205553.4681.60%65.21122%
202019.0023.80%21.25112%  205655.0721.30%65.93120%
202119.5723.90%22.02112%  205756.7241.10%66.55117%
202220.1594.00%22.82113%  205858.4261.00%67.14115%
202320.7644.20%23.70114%  205960.1780.70%67.56112%
202421.3864.20%24.59115%  206061.9840.60%67.93110%
202522.0284.10%25.50116%  206163.8430.40%68.18107%
202622.6894.40%26.50117%  206265.7590.20%68.32104%
202723.3704.70%27.59118%  206367.731-0.10%68.25101%
202824.0714.70%28.73119%  206469.763-0.20%68.1198%
202924.7934.80%29.92121%  206571.856-0.60%67.6894%
203025.5364.80%31.14122%  206674.012-0.80%67.0991%
203126.3034.90%32.43123%  206776.232-0.90%66.4087%
203227.0925.00%33.78125%  206878.519-1.40%65.3083%
203327.9045.10%35.21126%  206980.875-1.50%64.0979%
203428.7425.10%36.67128%  207083.301-1.90%62.5075%
203529.6045.10%38.18129%  207185.800-2.20%60.6271%
203630.4925.10%39.74130%  207288.374-2.40%58.5066%
203731.4075.10%41.34132%  207391.025-2.80%55.9561%
203832.3494.90%42.93133%  207493.756-3.00%53.1357%
203933.3194.70%44.49134%  207596.569-3.40%49.8552%
204034.3194.50%46.04134%  207699.466-3.60%46.2747%
204135.3484.50%47.63135%  2077102.450-4.00%42.1741%
204236.4094.40%49.23135%  2078105.523-4.30%37.6336%
204337.5014.10%50.77135%  2079108.689-4.70%32.5330%
204438.6264.00%52.31135%  2080111.950-5.00%26.9324%
204539.7853.70%53.78135%  2081115.308-5.40%20.7018%
204640.9793.40%55.18135%  2082118.767-5.60%14.0512%
       2083122.330-6.00%6.715%

That's all I need to see to know there is no difference.

2012-10-03 9:43 PM
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Meh, next debate, "Billion" is another drinking word.
2012-10-03 9:43 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-10-03 8:40 PM Obama got his arse handed to him tonight.  

^^Yes indeed! I hope the next debate is this much fun!

2012-10-03 9:44 PM
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Watching Chris Matthews on MSNBC.... LMAO...he's positively angry.... even he said Romney won. Hilarious.
2012-10-03 9:44 PM
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I do find it interesting that on facebook everyone's blaming the moderator for Obama losing.

Yes he lost control of the time, but honestly I didn't see where he did anything that was one sided or the other.



2012-10-03 9:46 PM
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tri42 - 2012-10-03 9:44 PM Watching Chris Matthews on MSNBC.... LMAO...he's positively angry.... even he said Romney won. Hilarious.

<thud> tuwood falls off couch onto floor in disbelief

2012-10-03 9:46 PM
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Problem with using the Ryan Plan is that it was a starting point for discussions. It was a Strawman. But instead of negotiating it, Democrats and Obama in particular called Ryan to a meeting to ambush him and called him Jack Ryan.

The Ryan Plan isn't THE plan, it's a starting point for discussions.
2012-10-03 9:47 PM
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I think Al Sharpton is going to have a heart attack soon... he's freaking hyperventilating on MSNBC.
2012-10-03 9:47 PM
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tri42 - 2012-10-03 9:44 PM Watching Chris Matthews on MSNBC.... LMAO...he's positively angry.... even he said Romney won. Hilarious.

You can believe either candidate on their talking points....but in terms of who won the debate....it wasn't even close.  Obama looked ruffled.....I guess he figured out pretty quick that he wasn't debating George Bush. Laughing

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