Question for gun owners (Page 3)

Or you could just go 7.62x54

See, for $1500-2k, I'd much rather have one of these:

But most people would think $1975 is a little steep for a bolt action 22lr rifle...

My dad got a .243 Win for target shooting. Long range stuff is pretty cool, but  I do not want to take it up as a sole activity. If you want to shoot precision competition, then you are pretty much relegated to .22 call just for price and you do not need the balistic energy for anything other than punching holes through paper.

But ya, a competition rifle is no joke and could probably drive a pin at 200 yds.  

 The exact same answer my co-worker gave me on Friday.

I sold my Winchester 94 back in 1985. Pretty useless unless I still wanted to go deer hunting, which I don't see happening. The only thing I can see myself buying now is a shotgun. I used to really enjoy skeet shooting off of my dad's boat, I could see myself hunting, and if I'm not mistaken they are pretty useful for home defense. And I am pretty sure that would be the extent of my weapon collection.

That's beautiful. Speaking of steep, I'm thinking the learning curve on that unit would be mighty steep.

Everything I've bought for those two has been online from a few different online shops. Yes, some stuff has to be shipped to an FFL and transferred that way, so there's a little cost and "hassle" in that, but very little does.

The AK will be made using a flat that I've bent, though. Thus reducing the cost quite a bit. BUT, the cut Ak kit I bought is no longer available (I kick myself for not buying a few of them instead of one. At $99 it was a steal). 

 I'd like to see some sort of mandatory safety training to allow people to shoot at public ranges. It wouldn't hurt anyone to attend even if it just served as a refresher. That would cover a ton of shooters and I for one would feel safer at the range. I've seen 99.999% of the people following the rules and using common sense. Those .001% did some stuff that scared me. I saw a guy shoot a round, grab his binoculars while still holding the loaded pistol and look downrange at his target; yup, the end of the barrel was at his temple, index finger inside the trigger guard. Not a government course as that would only pi** people off and complicate the process, more of a locally produced course with guidelines set by the NRA.

I recently purchased my AR because it was 1. A good deal (I'd been shopping for awhile), 2. The election didn't go as I had hoped and I knew there would be panic buying.  Again, I had been shopping for one for awhile...now that the election is over, reports are that ALL defensive firearms (pistol, rifle, shotguns) are becoming scarce.  Given the state of the gun counter at my local Sportsmans....there is a flurry of buying going on.  I'm looking forward to have something else to shoot....AR's are fun.

Regarding safety - I'm going to steal from a friend - "Knowing how to use/handle a firearm is a skill everyone should have."  You don't have to like guns, you don't need to own one...but you should know how to safely handle one.

I simply do not understand why. What has changed in one week from the last 4 years? Hint: nothing.

I realize it's fun to think up a bunch of scarry scenarios... gun bans at this point is a dead issue. Another AWB is a dead issue. Obama does not have the capital to spend on it right now. The Legislature is not controlled by Dems. I can't comprehend why any one would "panic" buy.

 The stuff I've heard is the UN small arms treaty. They are rumored to be trying to circumvent the 2nd through the UN. http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp . Prices and demand will go off the scale for a bit and return to normal. Now if you're looking at that Mayan calendar thing... or the pending zombiepocalypse. All bets are off...

I went to a scout camp that had 8 Anschutz bolt-action 22lr for the rifle range.  BY FAR the best 22 I've ever shot.  They were absolutely fantastic.  It was like someone sitting you down in the driver's seat of a Lambo when you're 16 years old.    The difference between these and the Marlins that most camps have was palpable.

That one has been around for years. I give it a solid 4.5 Tin Foil Hats.

On a side note... did you know the US signed a treaty to not give teenagers life sentences for offenses... yet US hands out more life sentences than all the other signers combined. Currently like 200 something. Another good PBS show. Just because you sign a treaty, does not make it reality.

Clearly it's Brad Pitt's fault. World War Z is coming!

BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-11-10 8:21 PM So should I get a shotgun or no? Am I going to wind up on some slippery slope where I end up with an Apache helicopter?? I mean, I did one sprint tri and a year later own two Cervelos

By all means, get a shotgun.  And take up trap/skeet.   Great fun for a weekday evening in the fall/winter! 

BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-11-11 5:21 PM So should I get a shotgun or no? Am I going to wind up on some slippery slope where I end up with an Apache helicopter?? I mean, I did one sprint tri and a year later own two Cervelos

A Ruger 10/22 is a good rifle for just some inexpensive target shooting.

What are you wanting a gun for? I like the Apache though, that Gatlin can clear a room pretty quick.

If this country wants my Great Grandfather, Grandfather, Father, myself and my son to carry a gun to protect freedom into foreign land, then it should be my right as the founding fathers wrote to keep my freedom here in America.

Have I ever used it besides firing practice?  No, but when the time comes, I'll know what to do.

Demand went up and supply was constant.  Therefore the prices go up.  You are correct that no new laws or anything went into effect, but the perception (true or not) is that there's a chance Obama could do "something" in the near future so a lot of people are stocking up which is driving the prices up.

Kind of like a company loses a CEO and people automatically start selling the stock because they're worried about what might happen in the future.

Back to your original question about AR's Brian.  I don't personally own one now, but I'm saving for one in the near future.  I currently have a couple handguns for daily use and a Semi Auto 12ga. shotgun as my primary home defense weapon.  I've also got a .22 rifle with a scope for varmint hunting.

My reason for wanting an "AR" is simple.  I want to be prepared for anything that may come my way.  I know we all joke about the zombie apocalypse which of course is stupid, but it is very analogous to a situation where the rule of law breaks down.  During the days that followed hurricane Katrina society broke down and for the people that remained there was no 911 to call.  I bet there were a lot of law abiding citizens down there who wished they had firearms.  I have no idea what kind of natural or man made disasters could occur in the future, so I err on the side of caution.  Am I crazy?  Perhaps.

As for the laws discussions I'm ok with background checks for people purchasing firearms to ensure they meet the requirements.  I think regulations beyond that are well intended, but worthless.  If I'm going to commit a felony offense and go rob a grocery store I'm not worried about a misdemeanor offense of carrying a concealed weapon or brandishing a firearm.  So, as you can imagine I'm a big proponent of constitutional carry.

BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-11-11 5:21 PM So should I get a shotgun or no? Am I going to wind up on some slippery slope where I end up with an Apache helicopter?? I mean, I did one sprint tri and a year later own two Cervelos

My advice to you is - buy another Cervelo.  It's much more beautiful anyway