Ironman Canada : Official Thread (Page 3)

That would made sense but actually the 2171 is All registered participants.

The breakdown is as follows:

DNS: 46

DNF: 140

Finishers: 1985

Total: 2171

Further breakdown:

Pro: 28 (0 of which DNS, 4 of which DNF)

Age Groupers: 2143 (46 of which DNS, 136 of which DNF)

And just in case anyone else is curious like I was, previous years registered participants were:

2009 (Penticton): 2828

2010 (Penticton): 3028

2011 (Penticton): 3226

2012 (Penticton): 2978

2013 (Whistler): 2171

2014 (Whistler): 2031 (As of 6/17/2014)

So if there is a lot of last minute registrants we could still exceed last years turn out, but we are definitely not going to hit the numbers from previous years in Penticton.  I find that surprising because I would assume Whistler would be more popular that penticton, but I guess not.

The DNS number was actually closer to 500.

http://www.runtri.com/2013/06/ironman-canada-2013-analysis.html

So last year's number was almost 2600.

That's very strange. I wonder why the huge discrepancy between that blog and the Official Ironman site? 

http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/canada/results.aspx?p=109&ps=20#axzz35FVbRAR6

Without any source or corroboration I would be inclined to trust the official site though.

A probable explanation for the difference is that the Ironman site only lists participants that checked in at the venue on friday, so the 46 DNS's are people that dropped out between friday and sunday.

Wow that's crazy, 15% seems rediculously high. I know injuries and just life sometimes get in the way but wow 500+ people per Ironman race?!

Well based on that then yes this years ~2000 is pretty low. 

Take the Syracuse 70.3 yesterday.  Nearly 2400 were registered and there were only 1775 finishers.  Probably less than 100 DNF's so the DNS number was about 500 and 70.3 races tend to be more localized and regional with less of a DNS rate than IM races.

Not trying to give you a hard time or dispute what you are saying, just trying to understand the discrepancy...

The difference is that for the Syracuse race the official ironman site matches what you are saying (more or less).  From ironman.com:

Participants: 2316

Finishers: 1832

DNS: 456

DNF: 49

DQ: 14

So why does the official ironman site match the numbers you are quoting for Ironman Syracuse but not for Ironman Canada?

The passage of time.  You'll notice that older results (results from previous seasons) lack a lot of detail in the results.  Notice there are no splits for any of the times and things like that.  The results right after the race were much more detailed and that's when RunTri did their analysis and got their numbers.  At some point IM does a scrub of the numbers.

Look at Syracuse's results for last year.  It just says 1578 for 2013 and if you scroll through the data there are barely any DNS'ers.  The few DNS'ers in there were probably race day DNS'ers that picked up their packet but didn't race for some reason.  It doesn't include the 300-400 other people that were DNS and never showed up at all.  I was at Syracuse last year and the announced field was close to 2000 but only 1578 people picked up their chip and show up in the results.

Same with IMC 2013.  2171 picked up their chip.  The other 400-500 were complete no shows and while listed in the athlete guide and race day tracker, no longer show up anywhere.

Make sense?

Makes sense, but I don't think it's accurate.  You said that past seasons results lack splits and other details, but from everything I see that is not the case.  I see the same details in the current results as the previous results.  So that means that according to your theory Ironman removes most of the DNS's after a certain period of time, but that is the only thing they remove?  Unless I'm missing something that, of course, makes no sense.

My theory, backed up by everything I see online, is that up to the end of last year they only listed the participants that checked in, as of the beginning of this year they began listing all participants (and everything else remained the same).

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.  Last year's results basically only show the 'Official Results" (for at least my two examples of IMC and Syr70.3) so all DNS's (non-check ins) were removed sometime post race.  My athlete guide for IMC 2013 has 2600-something names in it.  I just looked.

You may be right in how they're doing it this year.

It's finally up: http://www.ironman.com/~/media/970f8ff78af54c97811d0ac49e338048/2014%20im%20canada%20athlete%20guide.pdf

Patrick, I have only seen and been in mass starts but I have only been to a few fulls and half dozen halfs.  

Another question: When do we know our bib numbers?  I recall from years past that we knew that by now, no?  

Your bib number is 1699 (and your younger brothers is 1421)    

2 weeks tomorrow! 

Thanks!  

If anyone is interested in partnering up for a couple of short lake swims Wed - Sat next week, please let me know.  I'm solo this trip.

Cheers!

The lake is open to the public so you can swim whenever the park is open.

Apparently like last year it's vague.  Map shows (and showed) us getting out last year.   At the meeting they confirmed we didn't.  Go to the meeting to find out for sure