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2007-01-30 12:47 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
marmadaddy - 2007-01-30 1:36 PM

I haven't been able to reproduce the warning even when using routes that consist of hundreds of points. Can you send me the following:

version of Internet Explorer:
version of Windows:
processor type/speed:
amount of RAM:

marmadaddy:
IE = 6.0.2800.1106
Win = Win 2000, 5.00.2195 SP4
CPU = Pent 4 2 GHz
RAM = 512



2007-01-30 1:11 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
DRM - 2007-01-30 1:47 PM
marmadaddy - 2007-01-30 1:36 PM

I haven't been able to reproduce the warning even when using routes that consist of hundreds of points. Can you send me the following:

version of Internet Explorer:
version of Windows:
processor type/speed:
amount of RAM:

marmadaddy:
IE = 6.0.2800.1106
Win = Win 2000, 5.00.2195 SP4
CPU = Pent 4 2 GHz
RAM = 512

Thanks. Do you get the warning with no other programs running? 

2007-01-30 2:14 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

I broke it.....

I entered a run route that looped back to the origional starting point (final click was on the first point).

I entered a route name and a route description.  I unchecked the 'private' box.  When I saved it, I get the first image.  Since there is only a comma for a name and no link to the route, I hit the edit box and get the second error.

When I saved it, the map was in hybrid mode and the 'loop' button was illuminated but I did not click on it.  I did lose network connection halfway through making the route, but was never redirected to a 404 page.

Windows XP pro sp2
IE 7.0.5730.11
Intel Pentium M (centrino) 1.6GHz
1 gig RAM





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2007-01-30 2:35 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

Can you retry it vortmax, we JUST made some changes to the saving thing...

I just did what you did and is good...you may have caught us at that millisecond moment.

2007-01-30 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

This is great stuff!

Low priority question...I assume all the discussion on data importing is for garmin devices?  I have the Timex Bodylink system.  The data from the recorder cannot be uploaded, correct?

2007-01-30 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
I jsut got teh same error after creating a route. (same as vortmax)


2007-01-30 2:48 PM
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tpeterson02, can you try again too...one more time?

I just can't seem to replicate it.

2007-01-30 2:55 PM
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Just did the same route and had the same problem. Will play around and see if I can figure out what caused it. When I made a different, fake route, it didnt' have any problems.
2007-01-30 3:00 PM
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Try a 'shift+F5' to reload the mapping page...
2007-01-30 3:10 PM
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Damn - 3 times in a row when I map out the actual route. But making test routes work fine. Can't figure out yet what sequence of things I'm doing is causing the problem.
2007-01-30 3:16 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

Okay, found the problem

If you have an ampersand '&' in the route name, it gets that error and doesn't save the info, or at least doesn't display it. 



2007-01-30 3:28 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
This only happens on my home laptop.  Happens with other sites as well like gmap-pedometer and what not.  But when i design a route, the points stay on the road, but the line shifts off.  What do I need to update to correct this?
2007-01-30 3:36 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
mine worked fine second time around.
2007-01-30 3:38 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
tpetersen02 - 2007-01-30 4:16 PM

Okay, found the problem

If you have an ampersand '&' in the route name, it gets that error and doesn't save the info, or at least doesn't display it.

Doh! Matt's correcting that right now. I learned something about javascript today.  

2007-01-30 3:45 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
Good job guys - one question though. Is there way a to multiply routes - like I run a circle of .70 miles like 3 times for my 2 mile run - is there an easy way to mape the loop but then multiply it by how many times I run it?

Thanks,
Stacie
2007-01-30 3:49 PM
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dimplespoo - 2007-01-30 4:45 PM Good job guys - one question though. Is there way a to multiply routes - like I run a circle of .70 miles like 3 times for my 2 mile run - is there an easy way to mape the loop but then multiply it by how many times I run it? Thanks, Stacie

Create your loop, then click on the first point. The Loop button will become active. Click on that and it should do the job. 



2007-01-30 3:55 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

You might be able to use this website:  GMapToGPX

http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/gmaptogpx

I have been using gmap-pedometer, and it has worked for me to import routes this way.

tom 

ChrisM - 2007-01-30 1:20 PM
marmadaddy - 2007-01-30 10:10 AM
ChrisM - 2007-01-30 1:02 PM
ChrisM - 2007-01-29 2:25 PM

Cool features

Mike, I edited my post perhaps before you responded, is there any way to import routes that are created in another program using the exact software? I've a lot of routes in routeslip.com, and wonder if they could be brought over, or if they have to be redone?

Again, awesome, and another reason to go gold here

bump

"Import From GPX file" on the lower left. GPX is the standard file format for this sort of thing. "Standard" is used somewhat loosely. There's at least one variation that was found yesterday that I have to make a change for.

I see that on BT, but when I go to routeslip, I can't figure out a way to export. The files are all listed as html files. Here's my route list, so you can see what I am talking about (since you don't have anything else to do anyway )

http://www.routeslip.com/myroutes

2007-01-30 4:21 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

I noticed a possible bug in elevation calculations:

I have two identical routes, routeID 462 and 800

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=462

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=800

The elevation change for hte first is 299 ft vs the second has 111ft.

I realize how the program calculates elevation change, but both have a lot of points, and no steep grades at all, only very shallow hills that are definitely well covered by the points.

WHen I open the two routes up, they both appear identical. 

Only difference was that Route 462 was created with BT's program, whereas route 800 was imported from a GPX file from gmap-pedometer.

thanks,

tom 

2007-01-30 4:39 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
tpetersen02 - 2007-01-30 3:55 PM

You might be able to use this website:  GMapToGPX

http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/gmaptogpx

I have been using gmap-pedometer, and it has worked for me to import routes this way.

tom 

ChrisM - 2007-01-30 1:20 PM
marmadaddy - 2007-01-30 10:10 AM
ChrisM - 2007-01-30 1:02 PM
ChrisM - 2007-01-29 2:25 PM

Cool features

Mike, I edited my post perhaps before you responded, is there any way to import routes that are created in another program using the exact software? I've a lot of routes in routeslip.com, and wonder if they could be brought over, or if they have to be redone?

Again, awesome, and another reason to go gold here

bump

"Import From GPX file" on the lower left. GPX is the standard file format for this sort of thing. "Standard" is used somewhat loosely. There's at least one variation that was found yesterday that I have to make a change for.

I see that on BT, but when I go to routeslip, I can't figure out a way to export. The files are all listed as html files. Here's my route list, so you can see what I am talking about (since you don't have anything else to do anyway )

http://www.routeslip.com/myroutes

I just made a very cool discovery.  I was thinking why would another website make it easy for you to export the file from their site, but I have previously used favoriterun.com and it was actually very easy.  If anyone else uses this site, you just login, go to your routes and on the right side of the page you can click on "gpx."  It will prompt you to save it as a text file on your computer.  Then go to BT and create a new training route and use the upload gpx function on the left hand side. 

ChrisM, I'm not sure if this will help you or not on the website you were using.

Two observations:

1)  The elevation function didn't seem to work on my uploaded route.  Not a big deal for me because it is flat as a pancake where I live anyway, but for others...  Maybe this is because elevation wasn't available at favoriterun.com?

2)  When you go to save your uploaded route the "save route" button is greyed out.  It still works if you click on it though.

I'm really happy to have this function and really happy to not have to redraw the 22 routes I have on favoriterun. 

As I said in a previous thread, great enhancement that I will use at least once a week if not more.

2007-01-30 6:27 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!

parrj,

It shifts?  Can you post screenshots of this?  It is a 'connect the dots' kind of thing...if you want to 'stay' on the road, you have to zoom in more and put the points closer together...they wont automatically stay on the road...I hope I read this right... 

Attach a screenshot if this isn't the case.

parrj - 2007-01-30 4:28 PM This only happens on my home laptop.  Happens with other sites as well like gmap-pedometer and what not.  But when i design a route, the points stay on the road, but the line shifts off.  What do I need to update to correct this?

2007-01-30 8:49 PM
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Figured it out. We're storing the elevation in feet, but the source site is storing it in meters. Meters is apparently the standard (I didn't double check my sources on this).

Any routes created here are fine but any imported routes that have elevation will read incorrectly. We're going to fix this probably sometime tomorrow night. You won't have to do anything if you've imported any routes. We're going to change the way we store elevation data internally to match the rest of the world. This will be necessary for when we start exporting data for your Garmins etc.

If you've imported a route from one of the sites that doesn't have elevation data, this obviously isn't an issue.

 So we have 3 priorities with this for right now:

1- change our internal elevation data to be stored as meters
2- add support for uploading the GPX files that currently won't upload
3- create a 'Reset elevation data' routine

tpetersen02 - 2007-01-30 5:21 PM

I noticed a possible bug in elevation calculations:

I have two identical routes, routeID 462 and 800

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=462

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=800

The elevation change for hte first is 299 ft vs the second has 111ft.

I realize how the program calculates elevation change, but both have a lot of points, and no steep grades at all, only very shallow hills that are definitely well covered by the points.

WHen I open the two routes up, they both appear identical.

Only difference was that Route 462 was created with BT's program, whereas route 800 was imported from a GPX file from gmap-pedometer.

thanks,

tom



2007-01-30 9:44 PM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
Ron - 2007-01-30 7:27 PM

parrj,

It shifts?  Can you post screenshots of this?  It is a 'connect the dots' kind of thing...if you want to 'stay' on the road, you have to zoom in more and put the points closer together...they wont automatically stay on the road...I hope I read this right... 

Attach a screenshot if this isn't the case.

parrj - 2007-01-30 4:28 PM This only happens on my home laptop.  Happens with other sites as well like gmap-pedometer and what not.  But when i design a route, the points stay on the road, but the line shifts off.  What do I need to update to correct this?

Probably a stupid question but how do i attach a screenshot of the problem.  Do I need to take an actual picture.  The dots are on the road, the line shifts off the dots.  So the lines don't connect the dots anymore.

2007-01-30 10:26 PM
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parrj,

You can do a 'Prt Scrn' from your keyboard if you have that button, then go to your photo-program and under 'File' see if it has a 'New from Clipboard' or even a 'Paste'...then save it as a jpeg or gif then attach it here.

Marmadaddy may have some ideas on this...

 

2007-01-31 5:57 AM
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Subject: RE: ROUTES!!!!
I'm stuck back at square one. WHen I click "create new routes" the window refreshes, but all I get is the "generating new maps" message. MEanwhile, at the bottom of my Windows window, I get a "error on page" message... then "done" with the little yellow exclamation point of doom. No further content ever loads.

I have tried this on both my laptop and PC.

thanks, Dave
2007-01-31 6:57 AM
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DTraub, we made some changes to this last night. Can you try clearing the browser cache on your machine? This works in IE on the 2 machines I've tried it on so far.

Is this happening for anyone else?

 

 

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