Flo Cycling Wheels (Page 30)

 I didnt see the selector (oops)

irl = in real life. I was just asking about pics of actual wheels with actual decals. Sorry for the confusion.

Wow!  Thanks for the quick reply.  I am a taller but small build guy 160 - 165 pounds.  Looking to use on flat course mostly.  Have other disc wheels for other situations.  So I may just give it a try.  also have a P2 for training and some races where I can also use it.  When traveling on plane prefer P2 as break down a lot easier.  Plus hope to upgrade to a P5 someday.

also, I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your approach on the forum.  It is incredible.  Just read a bunch of the posts in this thread and I honestly don't know how you just don't loose it.  You have been honest, transparent, forthcoming the entire way through.  Did not see one post where you even came close to showing how frustrated you must be at times.  I hope this product is great because with your approach and a killer product you are going to be extremely sucescessful.  I don't know you from adam but from your posts I am for one really cheering for you and your brother.

Heck it looks like you left your phone number on the forum a few posts ago.  That is unbelievable.

PS:  Please, please let me know when I can purchase stock in your company.

We do not have IRL pictures right now.  It's be a crazy amount of work getting the wheel pages you can see live.  In time we will get some IRL pictures live.  I'm glad you found the color selector.  That's one of our favorite parts of the wheel pages!

Take care, 

Take care,

Okay, my last question - I swear

I like the Bontrager R4 tire - with the wide shape, do you think the regular r4 will make a better/faster fit on the disc than the aero r4?

http://bontrager.com/model/09124

http://bontrager.com/model/09126

Chris,

I've decided to suck it up and spring for a 60/Disk combo on Thursday. :D

Is the clydesdale build of the disk any stiffer laterally? My race weight is 175-180lbs. Will it make much of a difference to go clydesdale for stiffness during hard efforts? (ie: sprinting or hard efforts up hills in the pursuit bars) In other words, will it even matter as far as preventing brake rub? I ride a '10 Felt B2 BTW.

Also, if a spoke were to ever break in the Disk, how do you replace it? Is the hub flange accessible somehow? I've never looked at a faired disk up close to see how/if it can be done. Thanks.

Another fit question.  Have you had a chance to put them on the new Specialized Shiv?  Just wondering if there is a fit issue with that new frame?

ROY

Hi Chris,

I am not sure if this has been asked.

When ordering will we be notified which 'wave' of shipments we will be in ?

If we don't like the wave, ie we are in the last one, can we cancel ?

When will our credit card be charged if we are in the last wave ?

thanks

I found this

"During the pre-order we are going to do our best to keep the shipping estimates accurate in the cart.  Depending on how many people purchase right at 10am, that could be difficult to do.  We will also be keeping updates on our Facebook wall.  

After the dust settles we will be sending out a final schedule.  If anyone is unhappy with where they order fit in we'll ask them to let us know and we can refund the money if necessary.  "

So I am guessing yes we can cancel if we are not happy with the shipping date, but our creditcard is charged immediately.

Sorry if I missed this or if it is buried in the thread somewhere but what are the estimated shipping dates for these wheels If we order during the pre-sale?

Somebody mentioned different waves of shipments.  Looking for the approximate dates for what those waves would be.

Shipping Group 1 (The first order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in May (60 - 90 Days after March 7, 2012)

Shipping Group 2 (The second order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in June/July (90 - 120 Days after March 7, 2012)

Shipping Group 3 (The third order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in July/August (120 - 150 Days after March 7, 2012)

Shipping Group 4 (The fourth order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in August/September (150 - 180 Days after March 7, 2012)

Anyone else having issues with watching the day 2 launch video?  I tried in chrome, then IE, and I just get music playing.  Can't here the dialog.

EDIT: Seems to be working now.

To be 100% honest I don't know the answer to that question.  I say that because we were only able to test 2 tires in the wind tunnel.  We tested the Michelin Pro Race 3 and the Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX.  The Michelin averaged about 50 grams faster on our tests using the FLO 60 so we chose to use the Michelin Pro Race 3 for the rest of our tests.

Sorry I don't have a better answer, 

Take care,

We've testing in the Transition, "old" shiv and have spoken with our local Specialized dealer.  They informed us that the "new" shiv has been designed to accept wider wheels.  You shouldn't have any problems.  

Take care, 

Take care,

Here is the estimated shipping schedule.  If need be... we will do everything we can to increase the lead times on the later orders.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Estimated Shipping Schedules

We currently have the ability to produce 400-500 wheels per month. If we sell out of our first month's supply, you will still be able to pre-order wheels, but your wheels will ship approximately 1 month after our first order ships to customers. The shopping cart will be updated during the pre-order to reflect the the estimated shipping date of your order. The pre-order closes 2 weeks after it opens on March 7, 2012 at 11:59pm PST. Shipping estimates are from the close of the pre-order on March 7, 2012. Here are the estimated shipping groups:

Shipping Group 1 (The first order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in May (60 - 90 Days after March 7, 2012)

Shipping Group 2 (The second order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in June/July (90 - 120 Days after March 7, 2012)

Shipping Group 3 (The third order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in July/August (120 - 150 Days after March 7, 2012)

Shipping Group 4 (The fourth order of 400-500 wheels)

Estimated to Ship in August/September (150 - 180 Days after March 7, 2012)

We will do everything in our power to expedite shipping where possible once the pre-order is complete. If you have any questions about this process please let us know.

The Michelin Pro3 Race tires are also half the price of the Vittorias. WIN!

It's hard to justify $50-$75 for a scrawny little tire when the comparatively gigantic and beefy things that fit on my automobiles cost less than that.

what about the rolling resistance of the two, go with the one that tested more aero, or the less aero tire that has lower crr?

According to the latest AFM test http://www.biketechreview.com/tires_old/images/AFM_tire_testing_rev9.pdf

You might give up around 2-ish watts on rolling resistance. But 50 grams of drag is about 5.5 watts of savings in aerodynamic resistance. So you'll be ahead by 3-ish Watts per tire. I find the AFM chart dubious though. Those tests are done on a roller drum and tires don't deform in a concave manner like that when you're on the road. How well that translates into real world results hasn't been conclusively proven. They also used all different ages of tires. New, used, old stuff that people have sent in, etc. Their variables are all over the place.

I have found a real world rolldown test where the Michelin slightly bested the Conti 4000s, which is the opposite result that the AFM chart shows. http://www.roadbikeaction.com/Related-Stories/content/65/4964/Tire-Test-Kenda,-Michelin,-Continental-and-Maxxis.html

So testing rolling resistance on a handful of top performing tires is probably a wash in the end. But 50 grams of aero drag per wheel is nothing to sneeze at. I'd go with the Michelins.

Take care,