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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() There's free lunch at work today. Chinese, lots of choices. I bet it even has some real Chinese in it, yum. It takes so little to make me happy. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriAya - 2008-07-25 3:54 PM There's free lunch at work today. Chinese, lots of choices. I bet it even has some real Chinese in it, yum. It takes so little to make me happy. Good. Cuz I'm Asian. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Gaarryy - 2008-07-25 3:53 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. I started tri's since I was doing 1/2 and full marathons, and as my cross training would swim,, but i just don't seem to improve much on the bike, and I think I bike a decent amount.. I'm sure one day I'll do more running events again, and just keep swimming. Hmm, that's kind of where I am as well, but I came from a swimming background, mainly Master's and am starting to get into running. I feel like swimming is a great break from running and it's not too hard to balance the two. |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2008-07-25 2:56 PM TriAya - 2008-07-25 3:54 PM Good. Cuz I'm Asian.There's free lunch at work today. Chinese, lots of choices. I bet it even has some real Chinese in it, yum. It takes so little to make me happy. AH HA HA HA Not that half, you're not. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Spokes - 2008-07-25 3:48 PM Aw Spokesy, thanks for saying that. I have these dark thoughts, but I am always afraid to voice them. I'm not DFL overall, just AG, but still I'm not sure if I want to bust my buns to make it to the FOBOP sometimes. And it is way more expensive than just running or swimming. There's does seem to be more of a sense of I can just enjoy this at my current craptastic level in running events than tri's, but it could just be the experiences I've had. I've proven over the last year of running that I can, given volume and consistency, be a MOP runner in most distances... and in a half-marathon I can make top 1/3. I'm quite happy with that. My experiences with cycling has been is that a) I'm too timid and b) you really have to specialize with cycling to be 'good' at that. You can be an OK runner and still ride (maybe not ride great) but to be fast in cycling you have to pretty much quit doing anything else, and it seems like people are always crashing and either breaking collarbones and/or teeth. Collarbones my health insurance will cover but teeth would have to come out of my own pocket. One of the things that's a bit aggravating about cycling, running, etc. as a male entering my late 40s is that its still pretty competitive in the races out there, and at this point, you're competing against guys who were better athletes when they were young than I ever was. I also think that the people who aren't fast tend to skip races after a while - I mean, why continue to race if you're going to be DFL (or near DFL) every time, no matter how much you train? I find it rather boring to simply run or cycle to stay in shape though... I'm not that motivated to go out and ride for my own self-edification like I am playing guitar. One of the things I like about half marathons - and the one marathon I've done - the distances are long enough that the entire *attitude* within the crowd is so different than a crit, or a tri, where people are trying to kill their competition. Its about surviving the distance the best you can, where completing is good enough. I've thought about getting into randonneuring. And there's a good bike club next door in Davis, CA that runs a brevet series. However, that particular activity tends to attract retirees and people a lot older than me and I am just so not ready to hang out with the Ben Gay crowd yet. Physiologically, I'm more suited for doing that, but riding by myself against a series of time checks for a given distance - say 200 km - I can do that WITHOUT it being a part of an organized event, and I don't have to answer to anyone's perceived notions of what 'doing well' means. I aspire to run (run/walk) a half-marathon. I think that I would really appreciate the distance as I like to think of myself as a cruiser. I think I can motivate myself to bike without having to race. For example I'd love to do an MS150 and/or RAGBRAI next year. To me that would be great motivation for biking. I enjoy doing what I'm doing for the fun of doing it. I've just never been a speed demon in anything: I am woefully uncompetitive, but I enjoy working hard. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TheSchwamm - 2008-07-25 3:47 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. i'm doing this wrong? Aw, crap. Come on, you're not really surprised are you? |
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Runner | ![]() cami bee - 2008-07-25 4:57 PM Gaarryy - 2008-07-25 3:53 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. I started tri's since I was doing 1/2 and full marathons, and as my cross training would swim,, but i just don't seem to improve much on the bike, and I think I bike a decent amount.. I'm sure one day I'll do more running events again, and just keep swimming. Hmm, that's kind of where I am as well, but I came from a swimming background, mainly Master's and am starting to get into running. I feel like swimming is a great break from running and it's not too hard to balance the two. See, I just run. I don't swim anymore because I just don't enjoy it. I was on swim team as a kid, I was certified for SCUBA, but laps in a pool at this point? Forget it. Cycling is only marginally better. Mostly because I need a bike to do it, whereas running, I can throw on the shoes and go. |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:02 PM cami bee - 2008-07-25 4:57 PM Gaarryy - 2008-07-25 3:53 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. I started tri's since I was doing 1/2 and full marathons, and as my cross training would swim,, but i just don't seem to improve much on the bike, and I think I bike a decent amount.. I'm sure one day I'll do more running events again, and just keep swimming. Hmm, that's kind of where I am as well, but I came from a swimming background, mainly Master's and am starting to get into running. I feel like swimming is a great break from running and it's not too hard to balance the two. See, I just run. I don't swim anymore because I just don't enjoy it. I was on swim team as a kid, I was certified for SCUBA, but laps in a pool at this point? Forget it. Cycling is only marginally better. Mostly because I need a bike to do it, whereas running, I can throw on the shoes and go. Something very sweet, pure, and yet primal about running. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I like doing all three. I dont like training much. But I do enjoy the races. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scout7 - 2008-07-25 4:02 PM cami bee - 2008-07-25 4:57 PM Gaarryy - 2008-07-25 3:53 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. I started tri's since I was doing 1/2 and full marathons, and as my cross training would swim,, but i just don't seem to improve much on the bike, and I think I bike a decent amount.. I'm sure one day I'll do more running events again, and just keep swimming. Hmm, that's kind of where I am as well, but I came from a swimming background, mainly Master's and am starting to get into running. I feel like swimming is a great break from running and it's not too hard to balance the two. See, I just run. I don't swim anymore because I just don't enjoy it. I was on swim team as a kid, I was certified for SCUBA, but laps in a pool at this point? Forget it. Cycling is only marginally better. Mostly because I need a bike to do it, whereas running, I can throw on the shoes and go. that's the great thing to me about running I can run at night, during the day, really not have to worry about a lot of the other issue's for swimming and biking. Then again my run volume is horrible low this year for this IM, go figure.. It seems to me to place better in tri's I have to bike faster then just suck it up more on the run |
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![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2008-07-25 4:04 PM I like doing all three. I dont like training much. But I do enjoy the races. I also like all 3, and I enjoy the training, but I'm also really new to this. I enjoy bicycling the most (speed), then swimming, then running. But I've started to enjoy running more lately. Just so much hammering on my body when I run. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriAya - 2008-07-25 4:03 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:02 PM cami bee - 2008-07-25 4:57 PM Gaarryy - 2008-07-25 3:53 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. I started tri's since I was doing 1/2 and full marathons, and as my cross training would swim,, but i just don't seem to improve much on the bike, and I think I bike a decent amount.. I'm sure one day I'll do more running events again, and just keep swimming. Hmm, that's kind of where I am as well, but I came from a swimming background, mainly Master's and am starting to get into running. I feel like swimming is a great break from running and it's not too hard to balance the two. See, I just run. I don't swim anymore because I just don't enjoy it. I was on swim team as a kid, I was certified for SCUBA, but laps in a pool at this point? Forget it. Cycling is only marginally better. Mostly because I need a bike to do it, whereas running, I can throw on the shoes and go. Something very sweet, pure, and yet primal about running. Yeah. I agree ... it's my favorite mode of transportation. |
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Melon Presser![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Where do you find tri clothes for less than $10? Target Sales at Target. Racks at places even like Sav-ON, you'd be surprised. Always look on the discount racks at sports stores, and sports-specific (running/cycling) stores. And then look sad. You'd be amazed what that can get you from a sympathetic (young male straight) employee. Closeouts at the following websites, and patience: There's a few others--google tri websites, and then check their discounts/closeouts frequently. I get running shoes for $40 to $50. Those, I can't do for less.
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![]() | ![]() Spokes - 2008-07-25 4:17 PM mr2tony - 2008-07-25 2:04 PM I like doing all three. I dont like training much. But I do enjoy the races. My experience at the 2 dus and 2 tris (one relay without the swim) - just too competitive. More people hang around at run events afterwards and socialize and its pretty low pressure. At Heatwave in 2006, Sac Tri, the du in MS and last summer's du # 1, the people hanging around afterwards were crowing about their performances... or there with their trophy SOs telling them how great they were. Most of the people who were more MOP/BOP simply left and went home. I like piling up miles on the bike and seeing my running totals grow. Sometimes, though, keeping up the totals with a race looming gets to be a bit much... Wow, my race experiences have been completely different. Everyone's been really friendly and talkative at the three races I've done. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cami bee - 2008-07-25 4:01 PM TheSchwamm - 2008-07-25 3:47 PM Scout7 - 2008-07-25 3:43 PM Eh, I always looked at running as something anyone could stick to, even without ever doing a race. Triathlon training is training, not just exercising. i'm doing this wrong? Aw, crap. Come on, you're not really surprised are you? No, not really. i tend to muck up everything. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Spokes - 2008-07-25 4:17 PM mr2tony - 2008-07-25 2:04 PM I like doing all three. I dont like training much. But I do enjoy the races. My experience at the 2 dus and 2 tris (one relay without the swim) - just too competitive. More people hang around at run events afterwards and socialize and its pretty low pressure. At Heatwave in 2006, Sac Tri, the du in MS and last summer's du # 1, the people hanging around afterwards were crowing about their performances... or there with their trophy SOs telling them how great they were. Most of the people who were more MOP/BOP simply left and went home. I like piling up miles on the bike and seeing my running totals grow. Sometimes, though, keeping up the totals with a race looming gets to be a bit much... I've had some great experiences at tri's and a lot of triathletes are awesome (or else I would not be here). I just think that my physique combined with my personality make me feel more at home with run competitions which have a lot of diversity (read slow and/or noncompetitive people). I will say though that at my last tri there was a guy complaining that he didn't "win" because he got third. I think he must have been in the 30-34 AG which is super competitive. As I watched him walk a way with his friends and family I wondered what kind of impact that must be having on his young kids who were with him. I'm not saying that he was like that because he was a triathlete - I know plenty of people like that who are not triathletes, I'm just saying that I thought it was really sad. Edited by cami bee 2008-07-25 4:37 PM |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Spokes - 2008-07-25 4:12 PM I aspire to run (run/walk) a half-marathon. I think that I would really appreciate the distance as I like to think of myself as a cruiser. I think I can motivate myself to bike without having to race. For example I'd love to do an MS150 and/or RAGBRAI next year. To me that would be great motivation for biking. I enjoy doing what I'm doing for the fun of doing it. I've just never been a speed demon in anything: I am woefully uncompetitive, but I enjoy working hard. I think the half is a very doable distance for most people as long as (channeling Scout) you don't get hung up about time or performance goals. You can train for a half without it entirely taking over your life like marathon training tends to do. You can't half-fast People always ask me since I'm a native Iowan and love to cycle if I want to do RAGBRAI. I just have 0 interest... first, I'd have to take a week of vacation time that, at this point in life, I'd rather spend with my children, and the other truth is that RAGBRAI is mostly a big, drunken party and being around 10,000 drunks for a week is not my idea of a good time. I think that RAGBRAI could be a lot of fun if you are with people of similar interests. The first time I heard about RAGBRAI was from one of my college roommates who went with her parents and husband. They had a great time and my guess is that they didn't party the whole time. However, from what I saw last week, I'm know that there is a lot of what you described going on. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sprint_DA - 2008-07-25 2:26 PM Spokes - 2008-07-25 4:17 PM mr2tony - 2008-07-25 2:04 PM I like doing all three. I dont like training much. But I do enjoy the races. My experience at the 2 dus and 2 tris (one relay without the swim) - just too competitive. More people hang around at run events afterwards and socialize and its pretty low pressure. At Heatwave in 2006, Sac Tri, the du in MS and last summer's du # 1, the people hanging around afterwards were crowing about their performances... or there with their trophy SOs telling them how great they were. Most of the people who were more MOP/BOP simply left and went home. I like piling up miles on the bike and seeing my running totals grow. Sometimes, though, keeping up the totals with a race looming gets to be a bit much... Wow, my race experiences have been completely different. Everyone's been really friendly and talkative at the three races I've done. Mine as well. Although by the time I get back to the race area, most of the people who would even have any reason to crow have already packed up and gone home. I see them driving out with their bikes when I'm hitting the run turn-around. Everyone I've met through tris have been very nice, except for the few people who just happen to belong to the only local tri club. I don't train with them. Everyone else is super nice! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriAya - 2008-07-25 4:09 PM Where do you find tri clothes for less than $10? Target Sales at Target. Racks at places even like Sav-ON, you'd be surprised. Always look on the discount racks at sports stores, and sports-specific (running/cycling) stores. And then look sad. You'd be amazed what that can get you from a sympathetic (young male straight) employee. Closeouts at the following websites, and patience: There's a few others--google tri websites, and then check their discounts/closeouts frequently. I get running shoes for $40 to $50. Those, I can't do for less.
I've gotten some good stuff at STP and S-O, but it's never been for under $10. |
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![]() | ![]() cami bee - 2008-07-25 4:33 PM Spokes - 2008-07-25 4:17 PM mr2tony - 2008-07-25 2:04 PM I like doing all three. I dont like training much. But I do enjoy the races. My experience at the 2 dus and 2 tris (one relay without the swim) - just too competitive. More people hang around at run events afterwards and socialize and its pretty low pressure. At Heatwave in 2006, Sac Tri, the du in MS and last summer's du # 1, the people hanging around afterwards were crowing about their performances... or there with their trophy SOs telling them how great they were. Most of the people who were more MOP/BOP simply left and went home. I like piling up miles on the bike and seeing my running totals grow. Sometimes, though, keeping up the totals with a race looming gets to be a bit much... I've had some great experiences at tri's and a lot of triathletes are awesome (or else I would not be here). I just think that my physique combined with my personality make me feel more at home with run competition which have a lot of diversity. I will say though that at my last tri there was a guy complaining that he didn't "win" because he got third. I think he must have been in the 30-34 AG which is super competitive. As I watched him walk a way with his friends and family I wondered what kind of impact that must be having on his young kids who were with him. I'm not saying that he was like that because he was a triathlete - I know plenty of people like that who are not triathletes, I'm just saying that I thought it was really sad. To quote a movie: "Ricky Bobby: Wait, Dad. Don't you remember the time you told me "If you ain't first, you're last"? Edited: removing "profanity" didn't want to cause any problems. Edited by Sprint_DA 2008-07-25 4:41 PM |
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