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2009-12-08 6:28 PM
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I'm up for a challenge - weight or otherwise. I need to fit about 100 miles of bike training in, in the 13 days I have available in December to do it. I need to go another 166 miles or so to complete my s/b/r 3011 miles in 2009 goal. It's gonna be a challenge with 10 days of travel and xmas... I also need to NOT gain any weight this month which means sensible normal eating while I'm away - I have been fighting hard for that last pound to -50, I will not slip backward!


2009-12-08 6:47 PM
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I'm cool with whatever although admittedly weight based challenge would probably be better for me since exercise isn't my problem... food is what's been my issue lately. Plus this month has my husbands birthday, my birthday, Christmas, and New Years Eve to deal with food wise. Ugh. Not fun.

Did Jorge's trainer workout w4q1. The 2 minute intervals are killer. MY HR was at 185 and my quads are sore already from it. Going to try and get some run intervals in tonight if my legs aren't too dead.

2009-12-08 8:11 PM
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Update..

Did 1 hour with intervals on my trainer (as opposed to 1.5)  How exactly I can get a flat while riding in my house on a trainer?  I will never know. 
2009-12-08 9:10 PM
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IdealMuse - 2009-12-08 4:47 PM I'm cool with whatever although admittedly weight based challenge would probably be better for me since exercise isn't my problem... food is what's been my issue lately. Plus this month has my husbands birthday, my birthday, Christmas, and New Years Eve to deal with food wise. Ugh. Not fun. Did Jorge's trainer workout w4q1. The 2 minute intervals are killer. MY HR was at 185 and my quads are sore already from it. Going to try and get some run intervals in tonight if my legs aren't too dead.


For the record, I am OK with whatever.  It is just that December is filled with candy and cookies and fudge and fruitcake and eggnog and .... I just thought that if we each made a commitment, a different one for each of us, that addressed our weakness, that would help us get through the month.  For instance, someone might say that they were only going to have one piece of See's candy per day.  Or something.  Just giving up something or or limiting it might do more to promote weight loss than a weight loss goal.  Anyway, that was my thought. 

On the other hand, I have decided that whatever my weight is at Weight Watchers on the first Wednesday in January, that will be my official WW goal.  I'm tired of paying for WW and just want to "reach goal."  So this Challenge, which ends on the first Wednesday in January, works out well for me.

I did my two-hour bike ride yesterday.  It is an embarrassment to acknowledge that this was a hard ride.  I haven't uploaded the data yet, but it was about 31-1/2 miles and took me a little more than two hours.  I really worked hard on keeping my cadence up.  I need to do this rode a whole bunch more times until it is not so hard.  You all are so much better conditioned on the bike and I think the bike is the most important part.

2009-12-08 9:31 PM
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Ah okay then...As my sister is xmas cookie queen this will be a harsh challenge.

I will limit myself to 1 and only 1 cookie for each day I am at my sisters house for xmas holidaze. That's 10 total.
And I must maintain my normal caloric intake ~1775.

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2009-12-08 9:41 PM
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Great job! Just keep riding LOTS and you'll get faster, and 31.5 in 2 hours is not too shabby! And it will get easier. They say that once you hit 20mpw running you start seeing more speed results, I'd guess it's more like >100mpw for bike. If you can get up to the point where you can easily pace 40 mile rides, and then throw in at least a couple 60-70 mile rides you will be in good shape for the HIM.

LeahDD - 2009-12-08 7:10 PM

I did my two-hour bike ride yesterday.  It is an embarrassment to acknowledge that this was a hard ride.  I haven't uploaded the data yet, but it was about 31-1/2 miles and took me a little more than two hours.  I really worked hard on keeping my cadence up.  I need to do this rode a whole bunch more times until it is not so hard.  You all are so much better conditioned on the bike and I think the bike is the most important part.



2009-12-08 10:08 PM
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16mph is not embarrassing at all! That what I averaged during the summer as well... although you wouldn't know it from my abysmal trainer numbers (for some reason they just are way way off from road numbers)

elkekane hehe that is kinda funny, Must have just been a pinch flat. Have you changed the tube recently? Maybe the trainer tension was cranked fairly hard? I haven't had a flat on the trainer... or to be honest I've NEVER had a flat. Kinda odd.

Well I guess my goal would be to keep withing 200 calories of my target (1500) and hopefully that will get me 2lbs a week. I'll weigh in tomorrow morning.
2009-12-08 10:59 PM
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IdealMuse - 2009-12-08 8:08 PM 16mph is not embarrassing at all! That what I averaged during the summer as well... although you wouldn't know it from my abysmal trainer numbers (for some reason they just are way way off from road numbers) elkekane hehe that is kinda funny, Must have just been a pinch flat. Have you changed the tube recently? Maybe the trainer tension was cranked fairly hard? I haven't had a flat on the trainer... or to be honest I've NEVER had a flat. Kinda odd. Well I guess my goal would be to keep withing 200 calories of my target (1500) and hopefully that will get me 2lbs a week. I'll weigh in tomorrow morning.


Well....  it ended up to be an average pace of 13.94 mph, but it was hard to achieve it.  That short of ride at that pace and on flat terrain should be easier.  31-1/2 miles in 2:15.  If I keep doing it, it will become easier.  I think I have the resistance too easy on my trainer and so it isn't a good enough workout or a proper workout.  I never get my heart rate above 105-110, even when dripping with sweat (like doing a Spinervals session). 

I think it would be odd to get a flat on the trainer.  I have had a couple flats riding on the road.  My problem is that after I get a flat, I go to my bike guy for flat-changing lessons and he makes me practice a whole lot.  Then it is two or three years until my next flat and I have forgotten everything I learned.  I am planning to pre-emptively go in for flat-changing lessons in March because I don't want a flat to derail my HIM.  (The bike is going to be hard enough without that added into the mix.

I'm going with no more than two ounces of nuts per day.  I already have all of my nuts now measured one ounce per little baggie.  I have about 6-7 pounds left to lose (I think) and it wouldn't bother me at all to drop those by January 5.  I don't think that's gonna happen, but I would like it if it did.  I do think they will be gone by the end of January, in time for the half marathon.  I'm going to try and beat Miss Speedy Kate's HM time and I think these last few pounds off will help with that. 



2009-12-08 11:12 PM
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I will give up buffets after friday..... a little Las Vegas Humor.
2009-12-09 12:13 AM
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Hello everyone!  I had a nice swim today.  It felt good.  Lately I have been working on my kick and speeding up my arm movements.  I realized I was just taking it nice and leisurely b/c I was so focused on form.  Don't get me wrong.  I still need to think about my form.  I've got a long way to go!  

Tomorrow I'm going to try to get up early to do a spin class at the YMCA.  I've never done one before but I heard good things about them.  We'll see.  6:00 a.m. is not the best time for me but I'm trying to log more hours in my training plan work outs. 

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NUTSO CHALLENGE
I like the ideas of side goals. I think setting Side Goals = Weight loss.  Here is my proposal for this Challenge.  

(1)  We all list our side goals so we are accountable.
(2)  We report in on our progress for the side goals when we post.  The ladies will encourage each other and Scott will heckle.  (We don't want Scott to become a "hippie" or "vomit in his mouth".
(3)  We weigh in tomorrow for our starting weights.  (message me if you don't want your starting weight public
(4)  We weigh in every Wednesday until January 5th. 
(5)  Highest percentage weightloss wins a prize.  (Scott will probably kick the loser

Side Goals to date: 

Kate:    Log my food for the whole challenge period and keep trying to hit my work out times
Kiri:      1 cookie for each day (10 total)  Must maintain normal caloric intake ~1775
Leah:   No more than two ounces of nuts per day
Debb:   Keep within 200 calories of my target (1500)
Lisa:
Keely:
Elke:
Scott:   (We need to think of a side challenge for him.  My first thought is for him to pack his lunch everyday.


Let's do this!!  We don't want to gain weight this month.  I am desperate to get more weight off!  I know losing more weight will help me with all of my races.  Go Team Go!! 



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2009-12-09 12:22 AM
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elkekane - 2009-12-08 3:34 PM Scott, youre pretty funny.

I ran yesterday  (4.25 miles) then swam 2100 m immediately after, and felt great.... gave me a glimmer of hope that I'm not an idiot for signing up for the HIM.  The fact that January is creeping up on me is scaring me a little.

 


Elke - Nice work out!  Start logging your work outs so we can see what you are up too! 


2009-12-09 12:23 AM
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losta - 2009-12-08 9:12 PM I will give up buffets after friday..... a little Las Vegas Humor.


Lisa - How have you been doing there?  Are you still feeling sick?  Travel is rough when you are not 100%
2009-12-09 7:24 AM
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I'm feeling better, I think I nipped it in the bud with vit C, vit D and Omega 3s and echinacea and a boost concoction , and it never took hold.
I'm looking forward to another run in a few hours when the sun comes up here.

I do want a real side challenge. It's really hard when traveling and eating with others. I'll be back to normal schedule on Saturday. I haven't been monitoring my H2O maybe I'll d the 8 glasses of water. It's something I can do here.

Okay that's it 8 glasses of water a day, as a temp mini challenge.



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losta - 2009-12-08 9:12 PM I will give up buffets after friday..... a little Las Vegas Humor.


Lisa - How have you been doing there?  Are you still feeling sick?  Travel is rough when you are not 100%


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2009-12-09 10:25 AM
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I'm down .6 pounds = 191.4.  I'll take it.  I was up until 1:30 a.m. last night so I didn't make my spin class at 6:00 a.m. 
2009-12-09 11:08 AM
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Hello All: OK my starting weight as of today is 230 lbs.  I am thinking that by January 5, 2010 I should lose 12lbs.  (Of course if I was on the biggest loser I should be able to lose about 35lbs by then) Yep pretty lofty goals.

I believe we should just call Leah "Scrat" from now on.  I just picture her hiding her bag of nuts from everyone else...she seems a little obsessed.

I've never flatted on a trainer but have had some pretty bad crashes..and have more then once thought about wearing my helmet indoors.

As for packing my lunch - that would be a difficult challenge for me- however I will be in Wisconsin for December 22, 2009 through January 2, 2010.  I think maybe - packing lunch  until December 22, 2009 and then making sure I get one workout in per day... no matter how small while I am in Wisconsin would be pretty difficult but worthwhile.   I'm not even going to propose not eating fried cheese.

2009-12-09 11:45 AM
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OK.  I was 137.6 this morning.  I am not obsessed.  Really I am not.  I eat very cleanly and by no means am I going to limit my consumption of apples.  (I eat a lot of apples and other fruit.)   But nuts are deceptive.  They are good for you - omega 3s and monounsaturated fatty acids and all of that.  But if an entire 16 oz. bag is set in front of me, I can eat the whole thing (and have).  But like we all know, portion control is key.  Having a plan in advance to make better food choices is also critical.  If I don't deprive myself, but don't let myself go insane, I think I will be OK.  I have my little baggies and I have a plan. 

And yeah, I am close to my goal and I am really happy about that.  But I have been over 200 pounds and I never forget that.  And I never want to go back.  Never never never. 

Kate - thank for setting this up.  This is a good challenge for keeping us focused on our food choices during the holidays. 



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219 this morning - FINALLY -50! In the final stretch of weight loss now. yay! End target is just -20, -30 for longer term target.

Go nutsos!

2009-12-09 12:12 PM
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kirih - 2009-12-09 11:05 AM 219 this morning - FINALLY -50! In the final stretch of weight loss now. yay! End target is just -20, -30 for longer term target.

Go nutsos!

Wow.. -50..Great job!!

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kirih - 2009-12-09 10:05 AM 219 this morning - FINALLY -50! In the final stretch of weight loss now. yay! End target is just -20, -30 for longer term target.

Go nutsos!



Congrats on the 50.  There are some really impressive weight loss numbers in our little group. 

2009-12-09 12:24 PM
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Scott- You're a LOON!!! Nice achievements by the way...even if they were back in the 70's...LOL. Should I post my Junior Olympics gold medal for Synchronized Swimming??Think it was 1985?

I'm still trying to think of my side goal...I could have SO many since I haven't been doing anything! I'm still feeling lame for a day or two after I run. I was trying to chalk this up to the creeping in of the colder weather but a coworker reminded me of my surgery back in October and how for every day of rest you lose about 3 weeks of exercise...so I had 4 days of bed rest equating to 12 weeks of lost exercise?? Good grief, no wonder I'm sluggish.

My HIM Coworker and I are starting to panic because we're not nearly doing enough training for June and it's going to be here before you know it! So maybe I should have something about too much bread/starch eating, loggin my workouts....hhmmmm...getting one workout in a day..so many. Give me til the end of the day. I've got a "ladies happy hour" at a coworkers tonight..we're weighing in before hand since we usually weigh in on Thursdays...not that it's going to make a difference for me..I've gained 5 pounds since the beginning of November!

I'll get back to you on my side goals by the end of today!

Does Snickers bars count towards the nut count?? LOL
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Does Leah even know what a snickers is? (duck)

Packing lunch is a great one for Scott. Maybe he needs a 2nd goal for those non-work days though? We can't let him off TOO easy.

Kir - WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!! -50 is so awesome. I know how much hard work that takes! You're on your way to maintenance in no time.

My weigh in today is: 189 and my goal for the month is try and get as close to 180 as I can manage with all the holiday landmines ahead.

I'm pretty pleased with my progress run wise... Yesterday I did run intervals and the run intervals were 2 mins alternating with 3 mins Jog. The run part was at 6.0 MPH. Woo Hoo! Now we're cooking with gas!

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KiwiJDRPH - 2009-12-09 11:24 AM  I'll get back to you on my side goals by the end of today! Does Snickers bars count towards the nut count?? LOL

I'm thinking you should have to post something to your log everyday!  It is looking pretty barren.

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IdealMuse - 2009-12-09 11:52 AM Does Leah even know what a snickers is? (duck) !


Mercifully, chocolate has never been an issue for me.  So many other things, however, .....
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IdealMuse - 2009-12-09 11:52 AM  I'm pretty pleased with my progress run wise... Yesterday I did run intervals and the run intervals were 2 mins alternating with 3 mins Jog. The run part was at 6.0 MPH. Woo Hoo! Now we're cooking with gas!


It sounds like you have gotten your running break-through.  Great feeling, I know.  Nowhere to go but up. 

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Kate - didn't you get a new bike seat?  How are you liking it and does it make a difference?
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