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2012-03-15 7:18 PM
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TankBoy - 2012-03-13 11:47 AMHi Cathy - ...stuff snipped....
Ack! - was just scrolling to the bottom of the page and realized I spelled your name wrong in my last post - sorry about that Kathy!!!

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2012-03-15 8:42 PM
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Sweet! My awesome wife just told me she took tomorrow off from work, so we get to sleep in a bit and then go ride together! I have a 2.5 hour recovery ride and she has a hard interval set, so should be fun. This evening I swapped my power meter from my road bike and over to my tri bike: 3 minutes and 23 seconds complete (I took the time to really degrease and clean the crankset and bottom bracket). I guess tri-season has officially begun in our house!
2012-03-15 8:56 PM
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Tracy, thanks for the tip about the push-ups - I have a tri in a couple of weeks in a cold lake.  We get to the resort the night before so will have plenty of time after registration,  I'm hoping we'll be allowed in the lake then.  I have done this tri once before and the swim was awful - it was cold and dark (the lake is surrounded by gum trees and the tanin from the leaves turns the water dark brown) and I couldn't put my face in the water.  I ended up doing a rather tearful breast stroke way back of the pack.  I've been doing regular OWSs in the silty river near my home so I'm hoping this time I'll be able to comfortably freestyle. Now I just have to worry about the first 4.5km of the cycle which is all uphill Yell
2012-03-15 9:51 PM
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Success!!! Took the bike in to the LBS this aft to get that darned pedal off. Took 2 guys about 30 minutes to break it loose. The owner (George) said he had never seen anything like it. No thread galling, plenty of grease essentially no reason for it to be that frozen. I don't feel so bad that I could not get it myself with the tools I have. As far as the 'blowtorch', well, that was a bit of an overstatement. However, I did use my torch head on a propane cylinder at low flame to gently heat the crank arm (as was suggested in several articles). The guys at the shop did the same to get it loose. Bottom line: I now have clipless for the first time. Looking forward intently to my first meeting with the concrete when I don't get out fast enough!
2012-03-16 12:47 AM
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wow Patrick, wonder how it managed to get so stuck?  Going clipless is scary but it soon becomes second nature.  I still tend to unclip way before I have to which I don't need to do as I've been fine getting out of them when having to do an emergency stop (think old lady in a gopher on the shared path coming around a corner on the wrong side).  Make sure you really change down gears at a stop as doing that one-legged cycle thing while trying to get your other foot in can be embarrassing when there's an entire peleton of blokes behind you at a crossing and you're in too high a gear. It's much better falling over down here in Aus because we drive on the left so your gear set and stuff doesn't get damaged when you do topple over.

I gave up on clipless when I tried them for the first time about 20 years ago - lying in the gutter in Edinburgh's High Street for the third time while a concerned tourist asks me if I'm okay made me give them to a friend (even though the tourist was a lovely German called Rhinehart who insisted on taking me for a brandy to make sure I was okay, then for dinner, then.............., well I never knew falling in the gutter was such a good pick-up technique Wink).  This time around has been much better, I still have a bit of a problem with my foot going numb but my PT has ordered some insoles that he think will remedy that.  Let us know how you go and everyone else, please post your best clipless horror story.

2012-03-16 7:09 AM
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Enjoy the clipless pedals. Falling over isn't too bad, but boy do you feel like a dope when it happens.

I've kept the throttle back a bit this week in prep for Sunday's HM. I'm doing a low intensity spin on the bike tomorrow AM, and probably a short brick run, and then just rest. I'm getting a bit nervous since this will be my first race of this distance. My 9:1 run/walk should be an interesting way to go, and I know it works, so here's hoping all goes well. Weather looks like sunny & low 50's at race time!



2012-03-16 7:38 AM
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daisymouse - 2012-03-16 1:47 AM

I gave up on clipless when I tried them for the first time about 20 years ago - lying in the gutter in Edinburgh's High Street for the third time while a concerned tourist asks me if I'm okay made me give them to a friend (even though the tourist was a lovely German called Rhinehart who insisted on taking me for a brandy to make sure I was okay, then for dinner, then.............., well I never knew falling in the gutter was such a good pick-up technique Wink).  This time around has been much better, I still have a bit of a problem with my foot going numb but my PT has ordered some insoles that he think will remedy that.  Let us know how you go and everyone else, please post your best clipless horror story.

Well Gwen, I cannot beat that story, but I will say that my own personal record for the "domino take-down" is five riders. Pretty proud of that! And Gwen is right, you are only going to have trouble at slow speeds and when you think about it too much. When you really need to in an emergency you will pop right out if them without giving it a second thought. Toe clips are actually tougher, in my experience. Best advice I can give is to learn and unclip like a pro, which is to say left foot goes on the ground and drive side stays clipped in. There are a number of reasons for this, but primarily it will keep you from getting the dreaded "cat 5 tattoo." I didn't know any better, and now unclipping with my right foot is so ingrained I will never be able to do it differently.

you are going to love them, BTW. With all the talk of fancy bikes, aero bars, deep wheels, etc, it somehow always gets lost that clipless pedals are the single most important upgrade to your new bike. nothing adds speed and efficiency like them.

2012-03-16 8:17 AM
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getting peddles broken loose can sometimes be a real bugger. The torch will work on aluminum crank arms (your peddle spindle is probably steel) as aluminum expands under heat at about 5 times the rate of steel. what really makes this work though is to heat it just a little and then put penetrating oil on it - the capillary action of the expansion will draw the oil in faster. In this age of bazillion dollar carbon bikes and crank arms though I have actually found the best way to a stubborn peddle off is to remove the crank from the bottom bracket, put it in a vice (using v-blocks to hold it firmly but delicately), and then use a "cheater bar" which is basically a 3 foot long steel pipe slipped over the handle of my peddle wrench to break the spindle loose. with that much leverage it is a very simple job that does not take any physical effort at all. You can try this technique with the crank still on the bike, but I have learned through experience that if you have to put any force at all on a part of your bike you want to isolate that part from your frame - one slip of a tool and you have (at best) a cosmetic frame scratch that you will be kicking yourself about for years. In the end, a good pair of torque wrenches are invaluable tools - without them most folks will way over-tighten everything. You need a larger one (I like an old-fashioned beam just for the reach) that does at least 10~70 Newton meters for cranks, bottom brackets, and peddles , and a smaller "click" type (2~16 Newton meters) for all those smaller bolts. Don't be afraid to wrench your own bike! Your LBS should be happy to sell you tools and teach you how to use them. Besides, they can pretty much fix anything you break. Laughing
2012-03-16 8:25 AM
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TankBoy - 2012-03-16 5:38 AM
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I gave up on clipless when I tried them for the first time about 20 years ago - lying in the gutter in Edinburgh's High Street for the third time while a concerned tourist asks me if I'm okay made me give them to a friend (even though the tourist was a lovely German called Rhinehart who insisted on taking me for a brandy to make sure I was okay, then for dinner, then.............., well I never knew falling in the gutter was such a good pick-up technique Wink).  This time around has been much better, I still have a bit of a problem with my foot going numb but my PT has ordered some insoles that he think will remedy that.  Let us know how you go and everyone else, please post your best clipless horror story.

Well Gwen, I cannot beat that story, but I will say that my own personal record for the "domino take-down" is five riders. Pretty proud of that! And Gwen is right, you are only going to have trouble at slow speeds and when you think about it too much. When you really need to in an emergency you will pop right out if them without giving it a second thought. Toe clips are actually tougher, in my experience. Best advice I can give is to learn and unclip like a pro, which is to say left foot goes on the ground and drive side stays clipped in. There are a number of reasons for this, but primarily it will keep you from getting the dreaded "cat 5 tattoo." I didn't know any better, and now unclipping with my right foot is so ingrained I will never be able to do it differently.

you are going to love them, BTW. With all the talk of fancy bikes, aero bars, deep wheels, etc, it somehow always gets lost that clipless pedals are the single most important upgrade to your new bike. nothing adds speed and efficiency like them.

I wish I could unclip with my left foot.  Unfortunately, my left ankle is the one that dislocates.  I'll just have to wear my tattoo with pride knowing that I will ride another day! Laughing

2012-03-16 8:26 AM
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daisymouse - 2012-03-15 10:47 PM

wow Patrick, wonder how it managed to get so stuck?  Going clipless is scary but it soon becomes second nature.  I still tend to unclip way before I have to which I don't need to do as I've been fine getting out of them when having to do an emergency stop (think old lady in a gopher on the shared path coming around a corner on the wrong side).  Make sure you really change down gears at a stop as doing that one-legged cycle thing while trying to get your other foot in can be embarrassing when there's an entire peleton of blokes behind you at a crossing and you're in too high a gear. It's much better falling over down here in Aus because we drive on the left so your gear set and stuff doesn't get damaged when you do topple over.

I gave up on clipless when I tried them for the first time about 20 years ago - lying in the gutter in Edinburgh's High Street for the third time while a concerned tourist asks me if I'm okay made me give them to a friend (even though the tourist was a lovely German called Rhinehart who insisted on taking me for a brandy to make sure I was okay, then for dinner, then.............., well I never knew falling in the gutter was such a good pick-up technique Wink).  This time around has been much better, I still have a bit of a problem with my foot going numb but my PT has ordered some insoles that he think will remedy that.  Let us know how you go and everyone else, please post your best clipless horror story.

Love this story! Awesome!!!!

2012-03-16 9:02 AM
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Ah - failure to unclip. My favorite story was riding around the 'hood with the kids when they were first learning to ride their bikes. We pulled up to the top of the driveway and I just couldn't unclip to save my life. I toppled and took everyone else out.

I agree - get used to unclipping one foot consistently leaving the other foot clipped in. That way when you have to - it is second nature.

Best of luck Mike! I hope the day goes well. The weather couldn't be better for you...I love running in 50 degree weather.

I'm pretty psyched - I have hit every single one of my workouts this week for the first time in a while. Whoo hoo! (oh - and I should break 40 miles running this week). June 17th is coming right up.



2012-03-16 10:10 AM
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Mike_D - 2012-03-16 8:09 AM

Enjoy the clipless pedals. Falling over isn't too bad, but boy do you feel like a dope when it happens.

I've kept the throttle back a bit this week in prep for Sunday's HM. I'm doing a low intensity spin on the bike tomorrow AM, and probably a short brick run, and then just rest. I'm getting a bit nervous since this will be my first race of this distance. My 9:1 run/walk should be an interesting way to go, and I know it works, so here's hoping all goes well. Weather looks like sunny & low 50's at race time!

Sounds like great weather for a HM. I think your 9/1 r/w strategy will be solid. At about mile 10 or 11 if feeling good and okay with digging deep go for it.

Good Luck Mike!

2012-03-16 10:13 AM
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Puppies are 7 weeks old and still at our house. We are keeping them until their families pick them up. They are so darn cute and fun. All the kids wanted to keep them as long as possible. Having them here has been a blast but a lot of work at times.

Right now they have some GI issue and have liquid yucky poop...this is not fun.

Here are all 5 with Libby, Emily and I



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2012-03-16 5:45 PM
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KathyG - 2012-03-16 11:13 AM

...Right now they have some GI issue and have liquid yucky poop...this is not fun.

Kathy - what a bunch of cuties, I know you won't miss the poop, but I know you will be sad to see them go. Thanks for all the pics on your blog - the pups are awesome!

2012-03-16 9:09 PM
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Omagourd - the cuteness of those puppies is off the charts!

Hi all - i'm getting ready to "race" first of the season on Sunday. Was supposed to do the Shamrock Run 15k, but have been having hamstring flare ups of late so have dropped down to the 8k - which I'll be walking a lot of... sigh. Was getting so into running and then derailed by this problem.

In other news on Monday I started using myfitnesspal to give the ole diet a kick in the guts. I like it. Keeps me honest. I also like seeing "You have earned xxxx extra calories..." due to exercise. It's the little things that keep us motivated! Goal is to reach the goal weight for once and for all - that means 36 more pounds to go as of today. I also threw in some jump roping into my routine to cut some extra cals during my work breaks.

Supposed to get in a 45 ish mile ride tomorrow with the ALC folks, and the 8K on Sunday. Another Pacific storm is rolling in - we've been getting waves every other day the past week so ride is up in the air - run will happen regardless. On Sunday afternoon I'm heading out to CO for a ski week with my sister. Snow there is looking pretty bad and it's been VERY warm, so might be doing some spring carving and/or tanning.

Have a great weekend all - good luck with your races!

2012-03-17 11:09 PM
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I forgot to mention: managed to break a Craftsmen wrench in the process of trying to remove that darned pedal. Those that are familiar w/ Craftsmen tools know that they are quite robust!

Gwen: Very amusing story! I am heeding your past mishaps and practicing clip/unclip on the trainer about a thousand times.

Thank you all for the tales, advice and encouragement. I am 'planning' on getting on the road tomorrow for the first time this year. Weather has been unbelievable for mid March.



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2012-03-18 4:17 AM
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Good Luck to everyone racing today!!

Can't wait to hear the race reports!

2012-03-18 5:17 AM
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Ready to go....up, had breakfast, some coffee, a bit of hydration, a banana, now off to get my registration stuff, and get moving. More later.
2012-03-18 5:18 AM
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edit - dp

Thanks for all the good thoughts, folks!



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I've been talked into doing a crazy trail half marathon in August.  It is one, continuous hill.  It has 5600 feet of elevation gain!  Yikes!  Here's a little blurb from the website.

"The Mt Ashland Hill Climb Run has the second most elevation gain of any continuous hill climb in the continental United States. The Pikes Peak Ascent in Colorado is the only event with more--7,800 feet. We have more elevation gain than even the Mt Washington Road Race in New Hampshire (4,727')."

2012-03-18 10:05 AM
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Mike_D - 2012-03-18 3:17 AM Ready to go....up, had breakfast, some coffee, a bit of hydration, a banana, now off to get my registration stuff, and get moving. More later.

Good luck!  Can't wait to read about your race!



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Kathy....those puppies are beyond cute!!!! Kiss
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No riding or running for me this weekend.  My little guy has a bad cough and my husband is out of town at that half marathon.  (He finished in 1:47:11 BTW.)  I guess it's good to take an unscheduled rest weekend once in awhile.  I wish my appetite would agree that I am not training. Undecided
2012-03-18 12:57 PM
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Success!! Race went very well, and even better than expected for much of it. The Galloway 9/1 really worked well. The first 8 miles of the race I was feeling great - mile markers were coming up faster than I expected. Did start to feel a bit tired after that, and mile 11 to 12.5 were a grind, and slow. The last .1 I tried to sprint in but my legs were like 2 pieces of rubber over which I seemed to have little control, so I backed off and just did a normal run it. Felt great to finish! Beautiful course along the ocean for much of the first 1/2. Organized, lots of police, signs, spectators, water, etc. Weather was clear blue sky & sun, but it was getting really hot the last couple of miles. And I forgot my hat, so no protection there, and sweat was dripping in my face all day. Final time according to my watch was 2:09:44. Not setting any records, but today was about finishing, gaining some confidence in going the distance, and checking my fitness. Overall, I feel good about it all.

Now, I'm going to have a beer and a nap

2012-03-18 1:18 PM
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Mike_D - 2012-03-18 10:57 AM

Success!! Race went very well, and even better than expected for much of it. The Galloway 9/1 really worked well. The first 8 miles of the race I was feeling great - mile markers were coming up faster than I expected. Did start to feel a bit tired after that, and mile 11 to 12.5 were a grind, and slow. The last .1 I tried to sprint in but my legs were like 2 pieces of rubber over which I seemed to have little control, so I backed off and just did a normal run it. Felt great to finish! Beautiful course along the ocean for much of the first 1/2. Organized, lots of police, signs, spectators, water, etc. Weather was clear blue sky & sun, but it was getting really hot the last couple of miles. And I forgot my hat, so no protection there, and sweat was dripping in my face all day. Final time according to my watch was 2:09:44. Not setting any records, but today was about finishing, gaining some confidence in going the distance, and checking my fitness. Overall, I feel good about it all.

Now, I'm going to have a beer and a nap

Congrats, Mike!!!!  I'm sure you will enjoy that beer and nap!

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