kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 Part 2 - CLOSED (Page 38)

Really?  People are running out to buy speed suits?  Just swim, people!    

Don't women always have a major attitude problem?????   

Speed suits are actually useful mostly because tri suit have pockets and swimming in them creates lots of drag (which will slow you down considerably).  Speed suits take that drag away.  You don't need something facy, just something to cover up the pockets and low neck lines. 

That's what people wear when they race Kona; right?  How much time would it cost you in drag because of pockets at a race like IMTX?  Genuinely curious.  

I shouldn't have spouted off my opinion like that.  Like I said, I'm having a bad day and I probably ought to stay off the online forums at the moment  Personally, I wouldn't buy one for a normal IM race, but I'm racing with pretty modest equipment as it is, and I wouldn't want to fork over the funds I do have for that.  

Hey, you...don't stir the dragon (anyone here read Game of Thrones?  yes, I'm a dork like that).  

Probably a few seconds per 100 but when you're swimming 4400 yards it can add up and slow you down by a few minutes.  Also more drag is the water is going to tire you out more, which you want to avoid as much as possible in a full. 

No Game of Thrones for me, but I was super excited yesterday because my new book of swim drills arrived (I've also read the Hunger Games triolgy twice in the past month).

Speaking of women . . . Lululemon now makes swimwear:

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/clothes-accessories/Swim/Heatwave-Beach-Bikini?cc=4797&skuId=3449389&catId=Swim

Killing me!!!! 

I don't think I like the swim drill genre.  

I am having the same issue but mainly on the hills around here. I have been walking briskly up the hills has necessary. Hope we are doing it right???

That's more like doing intervals. Late Feb 2011 is when I started HR training the right way. I would average 138-142 HR and my pace would be 9:50-10:15. By sticking with it I can now go out and have a 130-136 HR and do 9:00-9:15 pace. When I use these numbers it's for my long runs in both cases. So Sunday I ran 11.4 @9:13 pace and only 131 average HR. 14 months ago that HR would have produced 10:30+ pace.

I get your point of view because I thought it was torture as well. However I stuck with it and I'm glad I did. You will see the results but it comes in spurts at least for me. I'll plateau for a bit and then wake up one morning ten seconds faster per mile for the same heart rate on the same or similar course.

Thank you for the feedback.  I understand that over time the pace will drop for the same HR.  I have not experienced that yet but hope to in the future.  I'm glad to hear you have had success with it!!  I guess I worry that I won't be able to run fast when the time comes.  The 5k this past weekend put some serious stress on my body, and I feel it is because I haven't run fast in a very long time.   

You will have success, but you need to be PATIENT!    You really only started back running and short bit ago after a total layoff from injury.  It will come and is usually like turning on a lightswitch, it will just happen one day, and then you might go back and forth, but it will become consistent.  Looks at Kelly's logs, she runs almost the same exact pace most days and keeps the HR down consistently.

PATIENCE ... I have been doing this for MONTHS, since November actually.  I am not saying it will take you months, I am more of the exception I think.

You know the answer to this.  Run slowly (and its a relative term).  The pace will come down.

Generally the rule for hills is to continue running and to let your HR go up (but no higher than one zone above the zone you are supposed to be in). 

exactly!

Thanks I was feeling bad for getting out of zone haha! I run around my neighborhood which has a lot of hills so I was struggling to stay in the zones.