Ironman Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 38)

Hey everyone! <p>

Did a 20 mile race this weekend, went pretty well (report HERE if you are interested).  I have some fueling stuff to figure out, but it went pretty well.<p>

MAN you guys are knocking out the training these past few weeks!!! GREAT work! You guys are scaring me! haha!  I don't plan an 18 hour week until like...May <p>

I have a water bottle issue I need to figure out - I used an aero bottle last time, but it was stolen (awesome) so I tried to get a new one, and they don't make the kind I had before (Podium Quest double chamber).  I ordered a Profile Designs double chamber (I like to have water + Infinit) and it doesn't fit in my aero set up.  Sigh.  Ill figure it out, but it seems that stuff is never straight forward! <p>

I am heading to Colorado for 8 days, so not much training will go on, maybe a bit of running. Then back at it!! <p>

Have a great day! <p>

Mandy

Last week, I did this:

Week Totals

 This week, I shall sit and think and marvel at all of you who put up such huge numbers.  Wow.  Keep it up...as someone said somewhere, "Spring is here even if winter hasn't left."  It will be outdoor training time soon enough.

I've got a similar setup (with the older version of the aerodrink you had).  I didn't have any problem grabbing a bottle, sticking it in the aerodrink and giving a couple hard squeezes to empty it out before the end of the aid station.  I'd practice it out a few times in training, but I'd think you'd be fine filling it up at the aid stations.

So far training in the northeast for a mid summer race (IMLP) is a lot tougher than a fall race (IMFL) mentally.  All these early miles indoor + doing laps in the pool while you know it is freezing outside is just not much to look forward to.  Cannot wait for the longer day light to get out to swim / bike / run outside.

I have the same setup in the front, have not really thought about what to do regarding nutrition. You can dump water into the very quickly. I have one cage on the down tube, no rocket launcher. Honestly I kind of hate them after dodging so many bottles during races. Is it pretty much mandatory if I want to carry my own nutrition?

I went out Sunday, too. 48 and sunny when I was getting dressed, and it got cold and drizzly FAST. Oh well, it still felt great to be outdoors. My power numbers seem so much higher when I'm not melting on the trainer. Nice to be banging up a hill and see 300+ watts, even for a minute. My heart would explode if I did that on the trainer.

Mandy, is this your bottle?  I had never heard of it so googled it and this site came up with them for sale.

http://www.ceegees.com/product/?product_id=150

I don't know about mandatory ... I think it's just more about your personal preferences. I don't like the down-tube mostly for aesthetic reasons, but I also like the reach much better around back than I do down.

I use elastic tent string around my bottles to prevent the launch. I actually launched one on our course ride last summer, and have since fixed the matter. With the added elastic band, they stay very secure.

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Training Update: 
I finally got back into a run groove. It had been over a week of just feeling a run funk. I had a brick scheduled for this morning and decided to throw a couple half-marathon paced miles into my 6 miler just to see where things sit. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it felt to stay sub 7. I've got a half in a few weeks and haven't decided yet how I'm going to approach it. I know a PR is out of the question, but today's paces encouraged me. 

How do you set that up?  Do you have it tied to the cage and then you loop it over top of the bottle?  Are you able to grab/replace that bottle on the fly even with the elastic?

I got a Delta XLab 300 (the rear mount specific to a Cervelo P2) for Christmas, and I'm worried about launching a bottle from it. 

I'll look at the make of the bottle holder, but it came with a groove around the top of each bottle holder that initially held a rubber band type thingy that did no good at all. I took those off and tied the tent string tight enough to close the opening of the holder. Then the tent string expands to accept the bottle and holds it very tightly.

I'll take some pics if I can within a few days.

Brian ... I also have a DSW bento that I'll jam full of hammer gels. Two bottles of Perpetuem on the back, and water in the front aero carrier. I may rig up a pill box zip tied between the aero bars for Perpetuem solid tablets and possibly salt tabs. Something I can just flip open on the fly. Extra tube, CO2, and tire irons under the seat and between the bottle holders.

Please include some pictures.  I got a P2 for this race.  So far just a single bottle cage on the down tube.  I will probably go with the XLAB wing type behind the seat setup.  Just want to delay as long as possible the pain of shelling out almost a hundred bucks for water bottles holder.

My alternative would be to zip tie one cage to the back of the seat and one between the aero bars.  Then just tape the gel to the top tube and CO2 / spare tube under the seat.

The alternative is sounds more hard core and bad a$$ and fits my budget.

I do.  I have only used it on the trainer so far, but I like where it sits and the ability to have another bottle on my bike for long rides.  My seat is completely forward, so other bottle options for behind the seat were limited.

I just looked, if you go all carbon (wing and gorilla cages) it's more like $200. I think not!

If I went with a single bottle behind the seat, I'm thinking of the following setup. I'd like opinions, please, since this is my first IM.

Water and electrolytes in the aero bottle up front. Filled off the course.

Down tube will be fuel, most likely Perpetuem. I will need two bottles (maybe?), so one will be in my special needs bag.

Rear bottle is water, pretty much for emergencies and if I miss an aid station or it's very hot.

Bento box will carry endurolyte fizz tabs to drop in the aero bottle as needed. Also some gel packs or a flask, just in case.

I've never used salt tablets, so no thoughts on that yet.

I have a cheap knock-off version of the x-wing on my bike, I use cheap cages on it and works well. I may try the elastic straps that may save me a bottle here or there.  I like having more places for bottles if needed, on a hot day when you could drop a bottle in the exchanged, I would rather not stop if I don't need to (nothing kills your time more than a stop). 

Aero speed fill bottle on the bars. I tried to keep an extra water bottle in my back jersey pocket...and thats were I stuffed the empty crushed bottle if I missed the trash zone.

Now my real top secret plan for this year is...the condom catheter

Where did you get it? The weather is finally getting nice, I'm tapering for the marathon, and I want to bike to keep sane. I also have a half coming up in May and want to start practicing fueling strategies.

3 hour trainer ride followed by a 5 mile run this morning. I'm anxious to get outside on the bike ... that long on the trainer hurts.

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This week's totals:
Swim: 3.2 hours
Bike: 4.75 hours
Run: 2.9 hours

Total:  10.85 hours

Let's include a training highlight for the week. I'd love to hear yours. Mine was an encouraging 4 x 500 set in the pool. I stayed very consistent with the times (8:29, 8:26, 8:24, 8:31).