Beer Drinker Appreciation/Accountability Society 3 - Closed (Page 39)

Originally posted by Qua17

Hi all:

Yesterday was a bust in terms of working out. My hip was inflamed again from my long run on Tuesday. I'm starting to get the sense of the pattern my body follows when I push too hard/too fast and it seems like the soreness always reaches a peak 2 days after the hard workout. And it also seems like the running is harder on my hip than the biking.

That got me thinking about reexamining the way I respond after a hard workout in order to avoid injury. I'm trying to figure out the answer to these questions -
1) which is better - total rest or reduced effort on the next workout? Does swimming following a rest day actually help? Would I benefit from taking an entire week of from running/biking? 2weeks?
2) Will taking prescription doses of ibuprofen help if I take them right after a tough workout?
3) What can I do before those workouts to reduce the risk of injury? Heat? Dynamic stretching? A reverse voodoo doll?
4) How do I approach my training differently to avoid injury while still doing everything I can to be prepared for the IM in august? Would only running 2 times a week help? Would eliminating the long run for the next month help?
5) What foods can I eat to reduce inflammation?
6) What post workout stretches could I do?
7) Could the fact that I sleep on my right side have anything to do with the pain
8) Massage? Acupuncture? Moving to Canada and drinking Molsen all the time?

Sorry to keep complaining but I've got to figure this out!

On a positive note - My driver won his qualifying race for the Daytona 500 (as a Cleveland fan - I have to take what I can get). Plus - the home brew I enjoyed before, during and after the race was pretty tasty.

Onward!

Originally posted by Qua17

God, I wish we got Bells out here in MA. Two Hearted might just be my favorite IPA on the planet. I wonder if you could slip a bottle in your luggage When you come out here to do Quassi. How was the Winter Ale? Was it overly malty or was there the "sweetness" that makes the two hearted so balanced? Finally - can I get the recipe for the pizza? Sounds like a decent way to save a few calories.

Originally posted by adempsey10



I think reduced effort might be better than abstaining completely, depending on the injury. What I've learned from physio is to monitor the level of pain immediately after the workout, immediately before bed and when I wake up in the morning. If there is pain when I get up, I won't doing any activity until the pain is gone. If there is no pain when I wake up, I'll do the full workout. If I'm having pain that persists after the workout for the rest of the day (but is gone the next morning), I'll do a minimal workout the following day. I am a firm believer in the recovery workout. I think it's really bad for the body to do a good hard workout and then take a 2 or 3 day break. The pool is a perfect recovery because it gives the whole body a good stretch and is low impact.

Additionally, I've learned that short stretches (holds of 3-5 seconds) often throughout the day are better for helping muscles heal. Longer holds (30 seconds or more, what we normally would do after a workout or to improve flexibility) can hinder healing. The injured muscle 'fights' back if you hold the stretch too long (this is how it was explained to me).

To let my knee heal and strengthen the tendons and joints, I had to start back doing 3 sets of 2 and 1s (2min run, 1 min walk). I then worked up gradually to 3 sets of 10 and 1s until I was able to run a full 30 minutes (no walking) without any knee pain.

These are things that I was advised to do by my physio guy to help get over a knee injury. They might work for you as well.

Whatever you do, don't drink Molson!

Originally posted by MOlsen

Speaking of swimming, 1400m in the pool today. For some reason, of all three triathlon disciplines, despite my love of water I find it hardest to stay motivated when swimming laps in the pool. I'm working on drills so my workout has some structure to it however I find myself dragging mentally by the end.

Any suggestions?

Originally posted by Qua17




Thank you for your raw honesty and I hope you and your wife can manage your way through this struggle. I have found in my marriage when we have an issue when we come together to overcome we become so much closer as a team.

So here is something I had to learn that has helped me. You know the eating healthy thing but I want to reiterate what Kevin said, first his wife took care of herself then Kevin joined in on the healthy eating. He probably noticed not only the physical transformation but other positive changes in her mood and self worth.

You and your wife are only responsible for yourselves. Like a drug addict's family there is nothing you can do or say to help her kick the habit and the same goes for her and you cannot blame each other for any lapse in healthy eating. All you have control over is you. When you are ready emotionally and mentally changes will occur.

My husband was a bodybuilder competing at 6% body fat, eating a very regulated and restricted meal plan but at the time I weighed 235lbs. Eventually I have gotten down to 163 isn...over a long period of time and slow minor changes. His lifestyle and diet had no bearing on my eating habits then as they do not now. Now he eats a half gallon of ice cream himself.

Bariatric may or may not be your wife's answer, depending on where she is at it her journey. What you do and how you eat can make it easier for her but in the long run and in all honesty it won't matter. Mrs. Charles has a mind of her own and can make her own decisions on how she will lose weight...remember Mrs. Kevin? It did not matter what he ate, that did not affect her decision to do better.

Oh and one more thing...if I were to make a bet, from your post, I would bet, you ARE ready to change but just not liking it so much. Feeling forced and over whelmed because of your wife's surgery when in all honesty YOU are making your decisions. It has nothing to do with your wife. Take it one meal at a time and know YOU are the only one making any decisions about you; good, bad or indifferent.

Good luck bubb!

Originally posted by Juancho

Back to real life at home, after a week out of the country and then ski trip with the family (downhill skiing with my 14 year old can be extenuating....good for my VO2max!).
Regarding the ibuprofen issue, it has been shown that it does not 'prevent' inflammation, so taking it prior to a long session (running, cycling...) does not work. But not only clothing is fashion-influenced, also medicine: thus, the 'trendy' thing today is that NSAIDs including ibuprofen are bad for healing. They may be in specific situations, but today it is the best antiinflammatory drug in the market. I am a obs/gynes, not orthopedic surgeon or physio, but you should not be afraid of taking it at prescribed doses for a limited time (1-2 weeks), if you need it longer you (or your doctor) should find the reason why you are suffering. Don´t trust any diet with specific medical purposes, they do not work: just eat food that you can identify what it is and that you can pronounce its name. As read in a recent book, short summary of the best diet would be "Eat food. Not much. Mainly vegetables"

Long run today (16k), thanks God RockMyRun was with me keeping me faster than I felt!

Originally posted by Qua17



Juan -
Thanks for letting me know about the use of NSAIDs.

I just wanted to ask a follow up question about concerning gluten free diets.... I've seen some researching that eating gluten free has been shown to reduce inflammation. I think I'm going to give it a try it for one month. The biggest issue I have about it is that it means giving up beer (or at least good tasting beer) but I'm willing to try it for a month. If it makes the pain in my hip go away - I'd be more than happy to wait until crossing the finish line at IMMT to have my next cold one. My question for you is - would I have to give up beer entirely in order to reap the benefits I've read about?

Thanks!