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2012-08-01 11:46 AM
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vonschnapps - 2012-07-31 7:53 PM What we have in this thread are many individuals understanding the article and critically evaluating its merits. We also have the engineers chiming in (who haven't even read the article under discussion) trying to justify why all the time spent studying advanced math, even though they rarely use it, was not a waste of effort. Socrates (a philosopher......oh engineers, just google him) once argued the value of teaching rhetoric, of course he was widely ridiculed because 'everyone should master rhetoric'. Alegbraic understanding is necessary, but the mastery required by most educational institutions in the US, and the way achieving that mastery is evaluated, has actually been detrimental to the broader acceptance, use, and understanding of algebra.

 

Bro....you are just BEGGING for links to all manner of studies.....get a helmet.

 

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ENGINEERED!

2012-08-01 1:38 PM
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vonschnapps - 2012-07-31 7:53 PM What we have in this thread are many individuals understanding the article and critically evaluating its merits. We also have the engineers chiming in (who haven't even read the article under discussion) trying to justify why all the time spent studying advanced math, even though they rarely use it, was not a waste of effort. Socrates (a philosopher......oh engineers, just google him) once argued the value of teaching rhetoric, of course he was widely ridiculed because 'everyone should master rhetoric'. Alegbraic understanding is necessary, but the mastery required by most educational institutions in the US, and the way achieving that mastery is evaluated, has actually been detrimental to the broader acceptance, use, and understanding of algebra.

 

Spoken like someone who is not an engineer and generalizing.  I am a PE and use it every day.  Literally every day.

I'm not an engineer.  I graduated w/ a degree in English and I USE ALGEBRA EVERYDAY.......... EVERY. DAY.

2012-08-01 2:50 PM
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vonschnapps - 2012-08-01 12:31 PM
Jtiger - 2012-08-01 11:07 AM

vonschnapps - 2012-07-31 7:53 PM What we have in this thread are many individuals understanding the article and critically evaluating its merits. We also have the engineers chiming in (who haven't even read the article under discussion) trying to justify why all the time spent studying advanced math, even though they rarely use it, was not a waste of effort. Socrates (a philosopher......oh engineers, just google him) once argued the value of teaching rhetoric, of course he was widely ridiculed because 'everyone should master rhetoric'. Alegbraic understanding is necessary, but the mastery required by most educational institutions in the US, and the way achieving that mastery is evaluated, has actually been detrimental to the broader acceptance, use, and understanding of algebra.

 

Spoken like someone who is not an engineer and generalizing.  I am a PE and use it every day.  Literally every day.

Actually have three engineering degrees, a PE and a MBA. Just pointing ouit the obvious, and expected these reactions.

FYI your LinkedIn profile only lists 2 of your engineering degrees.  And no PE.  Might want to update that.

2012-08-01 4:21 PM
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vonschnapps - 2012-08-01 12:31 PM
Jtiger - 2012-08-01 11:07 AM

vonschnapps - 2012-07-31 7:53 PM What we have in this thread are many individuals understanding the article and critically evaluating its merits. We also have the engineers chiming in (who haven't even read the article under discussion) trying to justify why all the time spent studying advanced math, even though they rarely use it, was not a waste of effort. Socrates (a philosopher......oh engineers, just google him) once argued the value of teaching rhetoric, of course he was widely ridiculed because 'everyone should master rhetoric'. Alegbraic understanding is necessary, but the mastery required by most educational institutions in the US, and the way achieving that mastery is evaluated, has actually been detrimental to the broader acceptance, use, and understanding of algebra.

 

Spoken like someone who is not an engineer and generalizing.  I am a PE and use it every day.  Literally every day.

Actually have three engineering degrees, a PE and a MBA. Just pointing ouit the obvious, and expected these reactions.

FYI your LinkedIn profile only lists 2 of your engineering degrees.  And no PE.  Might want to update that.



Sure will, thanks! You didn't mention my four certifications!



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2012-08-01 4:36 PM
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Full disclosure. I actually had the same initial response as many here when I first saw the title of this thread. However, after reading the article, and my experience with individuals who either feared math or those who parade it as a badge of honor, I came to the realization that the author's position has merit.

Feel free to disagree, this is the internet.

2012-08-01 4:51 PM
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vonschnapps - 2012-08-01 3:36 PM Full disclosure. I actually had the same initial response as many here when I first saw the title of this thread. However, after reading the article, and my experience with individuals who either feared math or those who parade it as a badge of honor, I came to the realization that the author's position has merit. Feel free to disagree, this is the internet.

 

False. Everyone must agree with me or else what is the point of my interweb arguing?

2012-08-01 5:33 PM
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JoshR - 2012-08-01 3:51 PM

vonschnapps - 2012-08-01 3:36 PM Full disclosure. I actually had the same initial response as many here when I first saw the title of this thread. However, after reading the article, and my experience with individuals who either feared math or those who parade it as a badge of honor, I came to the realization that the author's position has merit. Feel free to disagree, this is the internet.

 

False. Everyone must agree with me or else what is the point of my interweb arguing?

I totally agree.

2012-08-02 7:24 AM
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vonschnapps - 2012-08-01 5:21 PM
TriRSquared - 2012-08-01 3:50 PM
vonschnapps - 2012-08-01 12:31 PM
Jtiger - 2012-08-01 11:07 AM

vonschnapps - 2012-07-31 7:53 PM What we have in this thread are many individuals understanding the article and critically evaluating its merits. We also have the engineers chiming in (who haven't even read the article under discussion) trying to justify why all the time spent studying advanced math, even though they rarely use it, was not a waste of effort. Socrates (a philosopher......oh engineers, just google him) once argued the value of teaching rhetoric, of course he was widely ridiculed because 'everyone should master rhetoric'. Alegbraic understanding is necessary, but the mastery required by most educational institutions in the US, and the way achieving that mastery is evaluated, has actually been detrimental to the broader acceptance, use, and understanding of algebra.

 

Spoken like someone who is not an engineer and generalizing.  I am a PE and use it every day.  Literally every day.

Actually have three engineering degrees, a PE and a MBA. Just pointing ouit the obvious, and expected these reactions.

FYI your LinkedIn profile only lists 2 of your engineering degrees.  And no PE.  Might want to update that.

Sure will, thanks! You didn't mention my four certifications!

I figured you would eventually.

2012-08-02 8:56 AM
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tech_geezer - 2012-07-30 10:31 AM

Here's a test question to tell what king of math person you are.

You are going on a hilly bike ride.  It is all either uphill or downhill, no flats.  You can just barely average 8 mph on the uphills.  How fast do you have to go  on the downhills to get to a respectable 16 mph for the whole ride?

If you answer, lets just ride as fast as we can and not worry about it.  Then, you are not a math person but probably are a good bike rider.

If you answer 24 mph and downhills are fun, then you are average.  You are not a math person.  You might want to get some help on your tax return.

If you answer,  I don't know but it isn't 24 mph, then you probably made an A- or B+ in algebra.  You are not a math person but you will get by and figure out the stuff that you need to.

If you instantly get depressed about how crappy your average speed is going to be, then you are a math person.  I am a math person and not a very good bike rider.

 

Hah, this made me laugh and get depressed at the same time.

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