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2010-01-25 11:11 AM
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hahahahaha.

contrary to what banana breath thinks there are come good brands/flavors out there (i have a few from 3 or so diff brands that i like). but its really only a calorie replacement for workouts/races lasting longer than 2 hours.


2010-01-25 11:32 AM
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For being a self styled chef you sure have a weird sense of taste. Is this your secret recipe to get all the ladies?

" Hey baby, why dont you come over later tonight. I am planning on tearing open a couple of raspberry and apple GUs. They are 2009s, it was a good vintage for GU. We could just sit by the fire and slurp on some aluminum foil packets of tasty "food" product. "

2010-01-25 11:57 AM
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you win sir. i just spit water all over the place.


vanilla bean and orange burst gu (actually anything by gu minus chocolate and espresso so far) i have no issues with and acutally like the flavor part of.

hammer i like the espresso (has real coffee in it), raspberry, and apple-cinnamon.

powerbar its all about the coke flavored chews (its like a chewy candy wit ha coke center!).

cliff makes a few good flavors of cliff bars, blue berry is my fav.

accel pretty much sucks all around.

Drink wise:

Powerbar i know nothing about theirs

Gu: GU20 is good, and comes in some flavors you cant get anywhere else.

Hammer: HEED i like and have used up to HIM distances without issue. not the best flavor on the planet but its not strong tasting like gatorate, and best, 3 hours into a ride or race, it doesn't mess with your stomach (there is a lot to be said for this). have not tried the new flavors of perpetuem.

Gatorade: the endurance formula is pretty good, but i dont like the flavor after a while, and it makes me have to pee like its my job (one of the dyes they use).

Glukose: not sure if they make anything but the drink, but its the best tasting sports drink i have ever had. never used past 3 hours but worked then.

Carbo Pro (or a bag of matodextrin from a brewing store): nothing put calories. no flavor (just tastes a bit sweet). you can mix 1600 cal of this in a water bottle if you heat it up a bit and still have it be just a tiny bit thicker than a sports drink. if you use this getting a back somewhere makes way more sense then buying the actual carbo pro, its normally abotu hte same price for a 25 pound bag as the 20 serving tub.

Electrolyte drink wise, Nuun gets my vote hands down, some of hte best flavors, still coming out with new ones, tastes awesome, works well, and the people at nuun are top notch, have a great sense of humor, and care about their customers.

so there you have it, sports nutrition by me (i have no idea why i decided to write all this).
2010-01-25 12:31 PM
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I didnt see Deer Creek's special " Brown Water" rehydrating drink on your list. I found that to be especially tasty last year.

I am not demeaning the use of glucose gels and drinks cause I have used them. I just have yet to find many things more disgusting than a 80 degree favored sloppy maltodextrin goo bomb while I am trying to run or bike. Bonk versus eating that stuff is a hard decision sometimes.
2010-01-25 1:01 PM
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Do I even want to ask about "brown water"? Bananabreath (good one David) you make it all sound so appetizing, I'm salvating at the premise of consuming this stuff
2010-01-25 1:58 PM
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bananatoes - 2010-01-25 11:31 AM

I didnt see Deer Creek's special " Brown Water" rehydrating drink on your list. I found that to be especially tasty last year.

I am not demeaning the use of glucose gels and drinks cause I have used them. I just have yet to find many things more disgusting than a 80 degree favored sloppy maltodextrin goo bomb while I am trying to run or bike. Bonk versus eating that stuff is a hard decision sometimes.


(was not saying that you thought they were bad/useless), they do take some serious getting used to, the first year i did longer races/trainign i could hardly get them down, from there it got easier as time went on.

finding a brand/flavor you like is a HUGE step in making it easier.


and diamond, at deer creek the water at one aid station was filled from a well fed pump, but instead of just being iron colored at sort of actually tasted like swamp water.


2010-01-25 2:49 PM
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I'm just the opposite of newbz. I can't stand the fruit flavored gels. Chocolate, vanilla, coffee, expresso=ummmm!

I like to spread them on my toast in the morning.

And Bananas, having bonked on a HIM the option of eating them or not bonking is a no brainer in my book. I will admit that they are not the most appetizing thing to eat on a 85* day.

DJ, you can get them at the bike or running store or online. Buy a few singles of all different flavors and experement and until you find one you like or can tolerate. If you can tolerate a few different kinds thats best. What tastes good at mile 3 of the bike may taste like snot and monkey guts at mile 5 of the run. (I'm assuming you will do an oly distance sometime on the future) So it's best to have several different kinds to choose from.

Just remember, they are for training, they are not one of the major food groups (last I checked snot and monkey guts were not on the food pyramid).
2010-01-25 8:04 PM
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Lets see, they have been described as warm gelatinous gloppy stuff, and now mokey guts and snot - you all do a great job of advertising this stuff, really I think they should hire you all as their premier marketing executives I don't think I will be consuming any of this stuff any time soon.

David - no comment at this juncture about an OLY - let me just get through my first sprint and then we can discuss my tri future in greater detail

2010-01-26 7:45 AM
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ddiamond - 2010-01-25 9:04 PM
David - no comment at this juncture about an OLY - let me just get through my first sprint and then we can discuss my tri future in greater detail



Fair enough. I just bring it up becasue you probably don't NEED one for a sprint. I personally like to have one as I'm finishing the bike to fuel up for the run, but I never feel like I need one.
2010-01-26 2:23 PM
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Thanks David - it's good to hear about all of these things as someone who knows squat about this sport. Funny, Alice provided the whole low down on all of the performance foods following our discussion in this thread - although her commentary was quite mild-mannered compared to the monkey guts and snot comments. In any case, thanks for the info.

2010-01-26 9:09 PM
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I went for a 'one of each type/flavor' when I was trying out rocket-bomb-snot-fuel-packs.  I like Orange, Chocolate, Vanilla and Chocolate Mint GU.  I like Orange gel from PowerBar.  I also love love love Luna Moons and GU chomps- they are like a fruit snack!  I keep the Chomps/Moons in my back pocket when I go for long bike rides.  For a race I will sometimes shove a GU down my bra or I will use electrical tape and tape it to my top tube.  I also like Luna's power drink mix in grapefruit.  It's good with vodka.  Just a word of advise- gels are sticky so if you go to shove your wrapper back down your shirt after you've eaten it....you have been warned. 

I like a little GU on the bike- cause it does take me around 45 mins to finish the bike and I find myself needing the extra energy to make it through the run.  Which also takes me 45 mins.  Thank Athena herself I can swim fast!


2010-01-29 7:55 AM
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Thanks for the advice about gels and their stickyness K. I'll be sure to remember that - as I am really not a fan of sticky substances on my body. I am assuming that when you talk about taping things to the top tube that you are talking about taping them to your bike. As far as how long it takes to finish the bike portion - I have no idea how long it will take me.

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2010-01-29 8:17 AM
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yep thats what she was talking about.

FWIW in regards to sports nutrition stuff.

in races under 2 hours. very little if anything outside of water is needed. your body has more than enough stored to go that time without slowing down. around the 1:45-2 hour mark you might want to take in a bit, but do it before the run otherwise it wont do you much good (even the fastest acting things you'd eat during a race are going to tkae 15-20 min to really do much, and even longer to get the full effect). so in other words for 2 hours or under, maybe some gatorade (or drink of choice) on the bike, buit more than that is overkill. once you start looking at over 2 hours, then its another story and its time to start thinking about nutrition. for the sprint distance though (even for the slowest people out there), its not really long enoguh to *need* calories, or more than a very small amount.
2010-01-29 9:31 AM
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D- According to your logs it seems like you have done quite a few back to back run/swim or swim/bike sessions that lasted 1-1.5 hours. Did you stop to eat anything inbetween? If not you should be fine with water or if you want to drink gatorade on the run (i think they have that or powerade - same difference). My guess is that you should be OK without gels/powerbars/etc
2010-01-29 4:15 PM
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I have had a few sessions that have lasted an hour to an hour and a half (mostly bike/swim back to back) and I didn't stop and eat anything in between and generally don't eat anything for at least a half hour after finishing. I'm not a big fan of gatorade/powerade just because it always seems to upset my stomach and it leaves that nasty syrpy residue in my mouth so I am hoping that a little H2O will be enough. I am thinking that this race will take me somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 hours or less with the bike being the "x" factor so based on what you guys have said it sounds like I will be fine with just water, this is not to say that I won't need to rehydrate following the race with a smooth mix of hopps, barley and yeast.

I have no idea how long the bike will take...any thoughts on how long it might take a newbie to finish the bike?

2010-01-29 4:51 PM
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i would go check out the times from last year so to get an idea (or two yers ago, last years might be messed up).

i dont remember how long the bike is there?


2010-01-30 6:44 AM
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newbz - 2010-01-29 5:51 PM i would go check out the times from last year so to get an idea (or two yers ago, last years might be messed up). i dont remember how long the bike is there?


It's b/t 12-13 miles, I think.
I've been told that a mix of yeast, barley and hops it the perfect recovery drink.
2010-01-30 1:28 PM
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thats a very humbling 12-13mi!
2010-01-30 3:41 PM
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David tri's - 2010-01-30 7:44 AM
newbz - 2010-01-29 5:51 PM i would go check out the times from last year so to get an idea (or two yers ago, last years might be messed up). i dont remember how long the bike is there?


It's b/t 12-13 miles, I think.
I've been told that a mix of yeast, barley and hops it the perfect recovery drink.


My RR from last year said 12.74 miles, which would probably be what my bike computer said. And Dave, that's a big "affirmative" on the yeast, barley and hops! It's my recovery drink of choice. Throw in some hot wings to the mix and you can't go wrong either!
2010-01-31 12:10 PM
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thats really the only way to hydrate after!!
2010-01-31 5:04 PM
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If that is the chosen rehydration strategy when do the tri rules (ok to pee on yourself) stop post race? Is there a defined time limit when this practice becomes less socially acceptable?




2010-01-31 5:30 PM
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depends on the situation.

we went tubing after a race and it was ok all afternoon;-0
2010-01-31 5:56 PM
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bananatoes - 2010-01-31 6:04 PM If that is the chosen rehydration strategy when do the tri rules (ok to pee on yourself) stop post race? Is there a defined time limit when this practice becomes less socially acceptable?




You actually pee on yourself and this is okay because it's a rule? My god what have I gotten myself into?

So since everyone concurs that the best post race rehydration drink is a mix of yeast, barley and hops, who's going to have the cooler with these rehydration beverages and at what point is it legal to start consuming these rehydration beverages?
2010-01-31 7:45 PM
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its sat on a college campus, soooo, 10am?
2010-01-31 7:55 PM
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T2- dont want earlier because you might pull a DUI.
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