Tebow! (Page 4)

Just heard them discussing this on ESPN. The Broncos have a new defensive coordinater who came in from New Orleans with a brand new defensive scheme. With the lack of a real preseason, is it really all that suprising that the defense played poorly to open the season?

Props to Tebow.  Now if he could learn how to throw a ball consistently, he'd be a star.

I liked what Kurt Warner recently said about Tebow's (arguably) excessive public displays of faith.  Warner impressed me as it sounds like he has learned over the years that it's not words that define one's worth, but actions.  It's about leading by example.  It sounds like Kurt gets it now.  Here's a link:

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201111/super-bowl-hero-kurt-warners-suprising-tebow-advice

Tebow is already a star!  His  of faith...I can think of many other displays by athletes that are much more offensive.

BTW Brian...where's the GnR review/thread? 

I am pro-Tebow.....BUT I am sick & tired of hearing about all things tebow......oh and all of the ioditic people "Tebowing" too!!!!!!!

Just like the Penn State scandal.....I'm over it(and Tebow) stop devoting so much press/media to all of it/him

P.S. What I love most is that horse face Elway keeps doggin' Tebow, yet Tebow continues to win & shove it back in his face without saying anything back

did not know Baltimore was on Denver's schedule??

Believe what you want. There are 30 odd other regular players on the Broncos and they are all playing better as of late. To attribute the sucess of the team to a single player is ridiculous. Alex Smith has played as well or better than Tebow all year, yet you don't see anyone talking about what a great QB he is. that is because he isn't. He isn't turning the ball over and he is doing enough to win. Sound familiar?

Records can be deceiving. 5 wins over teams with losing records, with scoring less than 20 points in most of those games does not exactly show an offense that as thriving. Then again, maybe it is Tebow that inspired the defense to shut down the Chargers offense in the second half. Or it was his strength that allowed McGahee to punch through with a great run that moved the Broncos into position to get the game winner. 

Yes Tebow is a great guy. And yes, there are a lot of bad guys in the league as well. That doesn't mean he is going to be a good QB.

Meh - dont know why i thought they were playing Baltimore.  

Let's see how they do against the Pats?  

You will be Tebowned.

I just feel dirty now

Well, I wouldn’t put outplaying Matt Moore, Carlson Palmer on his first game back after his holdout, Matt Cassel and Phillip River, as big accomplishments in my resume.  Of those guys the only one worth anything is Phillip River and he has more up and downs than a yo-yo.

The only other decent quarterback they played was Stafford and as we all know they got annihilated.

Elway did some back-peddling yesterday with the local media.  I listened to the interview...he's made it clear that he fully supports Tebow.  I don't think his intent was to come across that he has no confidence in him...Tebow just needs to get better.  Even though the Broncos are winning with tebow...I think we can all agree that he does need to get better in the passing game.

Ok, now this thread is just starting to head to the ridiculous. Honestly, before you read that article, had you ever heard of the "Cold, Hard Football Facts.com's Real Quarterback Rating." I don't know if you can take that as gospel in terms of statistical analysis.

But lets assume that Tebow has outperformed the other QB in the wins. There is another component that is again being ignored, how well the defenses played. If the Broncos defense played well, then yes, Tebow could very well have a higher "Cold, Hard Football Facts.com's Real Quarterback Rating" than the opposing QB, even in a game that he played mediocre. A game where he had 2 completions for example. 

Again, I do think that Tebow has helped this team, I just don't think he is the primary reason for the turnaround. He is helping the team by not making mistakes and allowing the defense and special teams to put them in a position to make plays late.

Yes - it was a big deal in the sports talk world when they started using it at the beginning of THIS season.  Its still new and still unknown to most.  Sports Illustrated came up w/ a formula that looks more at the overall game and the overall play of the QB than just the passing game.  Its possible to have a great passer rating and still loose the game - Its even possible for the loosing QB to have a better passer ratting than the winning one.  RQR's take all of the offense into account, or the game management of the QB.  Why should the QB be 'punished' if the O has a good rush and can pound the ball all day?  Is a ball thrown out of bounds b/c of coverage the same as a pass the receiver dropped or the QB over/under threw?  PR its the same stat, RQR separates them and weights them differently.  Basically, they take the 5 major factors of the PR, and break those down even more to better reflect the QB's performance on the field, not just the passing part. 
The week 11 jets game is a good example.  Sanchez had a better passing rating than Tebow, but watching the game, using the 'eye test', Tebow was a better QB/game manager, and the RQR shows that.

I remember seeing a lot about ESPN's QBR this year, but this is the first I've hear about the RQR. Maybe I just missed it.

I like the QBR statistics though.