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 2012-10-03 9:48 PM in reply to: #4439941 |
Extreme Veteran  516 |  Subject: RE: Presidential DebateJoshR - 2012-10-03 8:42 PM PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:33 PM JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:26 PM PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:22 PM JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:18 PM Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country. Josh my friend, play rewind. Mitt wasn't my first choice but he's all I have and I do believe he is the JOBS man, way, way, way, better than B.O. All I know for sure, is B.O. s*cks and Mitt can only go up from there. (Gee, it's so hard to pull an opinion out of me lol!)
Deirdre, they both suck. Romney is complaining about trillion dollar deficits under Obama, but he will continue them because there is no way they will cut spending enough for there not to be. We can all pretend these guys will do what they say, but money talks. These guys are raising a billion dollars for their campaign. The people giving them the money are the ones calling the shots and they certainly aren't going to beg either of them to cut spending or remove tax loopholes. You and my husband are in the same camp, doesn't trust either of them. Really doesn't matter who it is, I know it's all big $ but I have to go with the guy that at least represents the values and goals I'm looking for. I just feel more optimistic with Mitt b/c he's been out there, governed, created jobs, he actually has experience with what I feel this country needs. For me there's no other choice, I will vote and it's a clear choice even with all the big money cr*p that goes along with the office. I think that's the big joke on the American people. There is no choice. They both talk like they think there is but there's not. Would you like to see my chart I made showing how great the RYan budget will fix the deficit? Assumptions: 15 Trillion GDP to start, 16 Trillion debt, constant 3.0% GDP growth every year, no exceptions I plugged in the numbers of Ryan's road map to prosperity Table A-II-1 to see how it would project. All numbers are in trillions.
ETA: Debt/GDP %column
That's all I need to see to know there is no difference.
Your a busy boy! Ok, I get your skepticism, so what r you saying, just throw in the towel? or do you prefer the status quo, I'm confused? I think the status quo s*cks and it's time for a change. I'm really trying to think optimistically but you and Roy are dragging me down maaaan! |
~| 2012-10-03 9:51 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
 Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Sharpton, Schultz, Chris Hayes, they're all flipping out! |
| 2012-10-03 9:51 PM in reply to: #4439955 |
Elite 4564  Boise | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:48 PM JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:42 PM PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:33 PM JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:26 PM PatsyID - 2012-10-03 8:22 PM JoshR - 2012-10-03 8:18 PM Romney sounds better. I don't hear anything from him though that makes me think either of these guys could even pretend to fix our country. Josh my friend, play rewind. Mitt wasn't my first choice but he's all I have and I do believe he is the JOBS man, way, way, way, better than B.O. All I know for sure, is B.O. s*cks and Mitt can only go up from there. (Gee, it's so hard to pull an opinion out of me lol!)
Deirdre, they both suck. Romney is complaining about trillion dollar deficits under Obama, but he will continue them because there is no way they will cut spending enough for there not to be. We can all pretend these guys will do what they say, but money talks. These guys are raising a billion dollars for their campaign. The people giving them the money are the ones calling the shots and they certainly aren't going to beg either of them to cut spending or remove tax loopholes. You and my husband are in the same camp, doesn't trust either of them. Really doesn't matter who it is, I know it's all big $ but I have to go with the guy that at least represents the values and goals I'm looking for. I just feel more optimistic with Mitt b/c he's been out there, governed, created jobs, he actually has experience with what I feel this country needs. For me there's no other choice, I will vote and it's a clear choice even with all the big money cr*p that goes along with the office. I think that's the big joke on the American people. There is no choice. They both talk like they think there is but there's not. Would you like to see my chart I made showing how great the RYan budget will fix the deficit? Assumptions: 15 Trillion GDP to start, 16 Trillion debt, constant 3.0% GDP growth every year, no exceptions I plugged in the numbers of Ryan's road map to prosperity Table A-II-1 to see how it would project. All numbers are in trillions.
ETA: Debt/GDP %column
That's all I need to see to know there is no difference.
Your a busy boy! Ok, I get your skepticism, so what r you saying, just throw in the towel? or do you prefer the status quo, I'm confused? I think the status quo s*cks and it's time for a change. I'm really trying to think optimistically but you and Roy are dragging me down maaaan! Excel is a wonderful thing. My point is both Romney and Obama ARE the status quo. I'm voting Gary Johnson. It won't make a difference, but he actually has a platform that I can stand behind. I am positive that come 2016 regardless of who wins the national debt will be over $20 trillion and we will be in no better shape than we are in now. |
| 2012-10-03 9:52 PM in reply to: #4439942 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 10:43 PM Meh, next debate, "Billion" is another drinking word. next debate is veeps...that's not even worth watching but next pres debate...billion is ON |
| 2012-10-03 9:52 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Oh man, Biden vs Ryan next week! Amazing! |
| 2012-10-03 9:54 PM in reply to: #4439949 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 8:46 PM Problem with using the Ryan Plan is that it was a starting point for discussions. It was a Strawman. But instead of negotiating it, Democrats and Obama in particular called Ryan to a meeting to ambush him and called him Jack Ryan. The Ryan Plan isn't THE plan, it's a starting point for discussions. That is my point. The Ryan plan is considered the super way out there extreme plan for deficit cutting. Look at my chart. The national debt will grow to 68 trillion before it begins to come down. Also you can see that starting in 2012 it is already severely underestimating the deficit. This doesn't even include the absurdity of saying you can balance the debt in 60 years. Thus, my point that we are being suckered into thinking that either of these guys will do anything. |
| 2012-10-03 9:54 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Meh, we need a list of words and we need to keep count. I'll have to get some more drink as well. |
| 2012-10-03 9:56 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Josh, I get you. I've got no ideas... Do you? |
| 2012-10-03 9:58 PM in reply to: #4439962 |
Extreme Veteran 516 | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 8:52 PM Oh man, Biden vs Ryan next week! Amazing! Oh, that's worth watching just for the laughs from Biden! Just today or yesterday he was lambasting how the economy has been so low for the last 4 years (sorry don't have the quote, but it was to that affect) He's the gift that keeps on giving! |
| 2012-10-03 9:59 PM in reply to: #4439961 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate mehaner - 2012-10-03 9:52 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 10:43 PM Meh, next debate, "Billion" is another drinking word. next debate is veeps...that's not even worth watching but next pres debate...billion is ON That's the one I'm most excited to watch. But admittedly it's because I'm pretty confident Ryan is going to make Biden walk off the stage halfway through the debate. |
| 2012-10-03 10:00 PM in reply to: #4439959 |
Master 2701 Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 10:51 PMa Sharpton, Schultz, Chris Hayes, they're all flipping out! Meltdown..... and if you really want to see the true colors of a network, watch them during a polarizing moment. It's laughable that so many people think Fox News is no different than say, MSNBC. The cast at MSNBC is so much more one-sided it's ridiculous. The obvious reply will be "Well, you're a conservative, what do you think you''re going to say". I say what I've said the whole time.... watch both and honestly evaluate the bias/neutrality. |
| 2012-10-03 10:01 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Biden will mention his Dad. He loves his poppa. Ryan will mention his Mom. Then Biden will go off the rails. |
| 2012-10-03 10:01 PM in reply to: #4439974 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate tri42 - 2012-10-03 10:00 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 10:51 PMa Sharpton, Schultz, Chris Hayes, they're all flipping out! Meltdown..... and if you really want to see the true colors of a network, watch them during a polarizing moment. It's laughable that so many people think Fox News is no different than say, MSNBC. The cast at MSNBC is so much more one-sided it's ridiculous. The obvious reply will be "Well, you're a conservative, what do you think you''re going to say". I say what I've said the whole time.... watch both and honestly evaluate the bias/neutrality. +1 |
| 2012-10-03 10:02 PM in reply to: #4439975 |
Master 2701 Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate |
| 2012-10-03 10:02 PM in reply to: #4439971 |
Extreme Veteran 516 | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate tuwood - 2012-10-03 8:59 PM mehaner - 2012-10-03 9:52 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 10:43 PM Meh, next debate, "Billion" is another drinking word. next debate is veeps...that's not even worth watching but next pres debate...billion is ON That's the one I'm most excited to watch. But admittedly it's because I'm pretty confident Ryan is going to make Biden walk off the stage halfway through the debate. ^^Ha-ha! Ok, I have to get to the serious business of settling down and watching "The Middle". It's been fun, see you all next time |
| 2012-10-03 10:03 PM in reply to: #4439969 |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate GomesBolt - 2012-10-03 8:56 PM Josh, I get you. I've got no ideas... Do you? Nothing that is feasible. The 1st step would be to remove everyone in DC. Personally I think we either continue to muddle through for a few decades or some big event either awakens the country and gets the ship righted (doubtful) or the whole world goes into another depression. I don't think there is any other way for everything that's gone down to unfold. |
| 2012-10-03 10:05 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Josh, I agree. DC needs to be severely changed. I think a Constitutional amendment for congressional term limits is crucial. |
| 2012-10-03 10:10 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate The Luntz independent panel on Fox is pretty heavy in favor of Romney now. |
| 2012-10-03 10:13 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate lol Obama keeps looking down at his belt buckle teleprompter.
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Dennis Miller Show | 2012-10-03 10:44 PM in reply to: #4439993 |
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| 2012-10-03 10:48 PM in reply to: #4440007 |
Master 2701 Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate |
| 2012-10-03 10:54 PM in reply to: #4438403 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate I felt embarrassed for the President.....that was an arse kicking of the highest magnitude. You've been the President of the United States for 4 years and THAT'S all the game you've got?? Wow. |
| 2012-10-03 10:57 PM in reply to: #4440012 |
| Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Left Brain - 2012-10-03 8:54 PM I felt embarrassed for the President.....that was an arse kicking of the highest magnitude. You've been the President of the United States for 4 years and THAT'S all the game you've got?? Wow. In fairness it's only because Mitt lied and Obama is too much of a gentleman to after the jugular. I know this to be true because I heard it on MSNBC, not that Faux news station that is just a mouth piece for the Republicans. |
| 2012-10-03 11:07 PM in reply to: #4440013 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate crusevegas - 2012-10-03 10:57 PM Left Brain - 2012-10-03 8:54 PM I felt embarrassed for the President.....that was an arse kicking of the highest magnitude. You've been the President of the United States for 4 years and THAT'S all the game you've got?? Wow. In fairness it's only because Mitt lied and Obama is too much of a gentleman to after the jugular. I know this to be true because I heard it on MSNBC, not that Faux news station that is just a mouth piece for the Republicans. Yep, that's what it was. |
| 2012-10-03 11:09 PM in reply to: #4440015 |
Master 2701 Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: Presidential Debate Left Brain - 2012-10-04 12:07 AM crusevegas - 2012-10-03 10:57 PM Left Brain - 2012-10-03 8:54 PM I felt embarrassed for the President.....that was an arse kicking of the highest magnitude. You've been the President of the United States for 4 years and THAT'S all the game you've got?? Wow. In fairness it's only because Mitt lied and Obama is too much of a gentleman to after the jugular. I know this to be true because I heard it on MSNBC, not that Faux news station that is just a mouth piece for the Republicans. Yep, that's what it was. Haters.  Edited by tri42 2012-10-03 11:10 PM |
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