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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Booked my hotel for Tony's training camp in Monteray, CA today! Psyched!!! ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Meulen - 2013-01-08 2:46 PMBooked my hotel for Tony's training camp in Monteray, CA today! Psyched!!! Sweet!!! ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() samwear - 2013-01-08 2:05 PM Great PR, what time are you now thinking of to set in the Xterra 1500mt?
I like to set ambitious goals that will take a lot of work to get to. If I don't and I feel like I can do it with slacking off, I will try to do it by slacking off. So, I want to do a 1500m swim in sub 28:00. It's ambitious for me. I'm working on planning out my training through October or November now with that specifically in mind. Most of my planned Xterra swims are only 800m. I'd love to go sub 15:00 on that, but that would be an end of the season goal.
- Joel |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Re: trail shoes, I'd say it depends on the course. Our course goes through jungle with lots of clay, slick rocks, and a waterfall that you have to get down. Definitely helps to have some traction. They make some really light trail shoes these days. ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hump day. Who's doing what? Who's feels like crap? Who's ready for the weekend!? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yesterday I got up and ran before 5am in the rain, then at lunch I took the mountain bike through the 1st part of the Xterra bike course. Goes up a 3 mile hill that leads to the drop into the hills. It was raining then too. I was going to swim last night, but it was rainy and windy, and I was bone cold and tired so skipped it. I was supposed to hit the gym at lunch, but I still had that overall exhausted feeling so I came home and napped so hard I was having crazy dreams. Dreamed I was looking for sponsorship selling my mad swimming skills. LOLZ FOREVER! I feel much better after that nap. I'm about to do the shoulders/arms and abs workout from my P90X set, then when husband gets home, a 5 mile run. Edited by Blanda 2013-01-08 11:03 PM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Looks like Kettlebell and bike trainer today I feel like crap! ?? Terrible trainer ride last night. Weight training drains my legs. Can't seem to get a quality workout in the day after. Not sure if I recover from weights quick enough like I do s/b/r I'm ready for Friday, that's my rest day, but you know that already! ?? |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() tested myself this morning in the pool, 1000mts in 25mins,at testing, (but not killing) pace, to figure out my swim training for the coming period |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just got back from my a.m. 4mile run. Swim this afternoon. Probably 2000m. Maybe a short spin bike session after.Feel very good today. My day off is Tuesday so I feel great. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey still here, Just been lurking! ![]() yesterday was a rest day, but I think I will run 3-5 miles! Only 15 more days of work then I am going to get about 7-14 days of solid training in! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Felt absolutely fatigued on my run last night, and strained my neck on the pullup bar. Got home, made a berry and coconut water smoothie with some honey. Thought maybe not enough carbs. Had dinner with the family, then took a pain reliever and went to bed at 8:30pm. We have a super sprint this weekend. Just got a road bike and have no idea how to shift gears on it. I've done everything in that last 1.5 years on my mountain bike. I guess I should figure it out before Sunday, ha! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() That smoothie sounds great! Good luck on the tri, let us know how you do! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 10x200 swim after work today. I'll have to remember to not go to Wal-Mart afterwards next time...every thing looks good to eat. I wanted to eat it all... |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 3.31 mi @ 40.06 mostly endurance pace and a hill to finish! I have really been diligently logging all my food, nothing is more satisfying then man I can still eat 500 more calories but I am kinda full! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Joel, I find sitting in the sauna after a swim helps curb the hunger. It's actually pretty common and some people attribute the hunger after swimming to the water cooling your core. Heat the core back up and hunger goes away
Kyle, man you're lucky! That NEVER happens to me! LOL
My legs are still toasted! At 37 I don't think I recover from weight training like I used to. I'm thinking that's why I have no strength in my legs. After adding the strength training to my program I've been worthless on the bike. I can't get near the power numbers I'm supposed to be at on my workouts. I can't get my HR up at all, there is just no energy in my legs. Is this just a matter of getting used to the strength training? A couple of other things are going on too which is making it hard to pinpoint why I can't get a quality workout in. The diet! It's probably tough to recover without carbs...right? And I did have a day this week I got very little sleep. Like 1-2 hours.
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() well IMO wieght training is a funky beast! if your legs are toasted and it is affecting your run, you may be doing to much. how much protein are your eating and when? Are you using any post work out recovery supplements! And stretching, people forget to stretch after strength training people always for get to stretch! |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() and lack of sleep can have its impacts but you know that! Have a nap man! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ktieulie - 2013-01-10 8:14 AM well IMO wieght training is a funky beast! if your legs are toasted and it is affecting your run, you may be doing to much. how much protein are your eating and when? Are you using any post work out recovery supplements! And stretching, people forget to stretch after strength training people always for get to stretch! No recovery suplements right now, while on the diet. I am eating protein, all day every day. Like every couple hours I eat something and it's all protein right now, including shortly after workouts. Yep, I stretch/foam roll/etc. Tony makes sure it's in my program.
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() yeah just sounds like too much too fast, I would concentrate on lower wieght/resistance and more reps! equates to the same amount of work with out excess strain, it should save your legs(and avoid walking like a duck!) Now I have a question, with the ridiculous hours I work, should I try to squeeze in the extra miles now and again (and give up an hour sleep) to get in a longer run/bike, or just stick to my 40-60 min sessions and continue to build base? |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ktieulie - 2013-01-10 9:02 AM yeah just sounds like too much too fast, I would concentrate on lower wieght/resistance and more reps! equates to the same amount of work with out excess strain, it should save your legs(and avoid walking like a duck!) Now I have a question, with the ridiculous hours I work, should I try to squeeze in the extra miles now and again (and give up an hour sleep) to get in a longer run/bike, or just stick to my 40-60 min sessions and continue to build base?
For me, and I work some crazy hours sometimes myself, I always shut it down if it gets too late. My minimum I would like to get is 5 hours sleep. If I won't be able to do that, I skip the workout. I'm curious to see what Tony says about this though! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Meulen - 2013-01-10 9:13 AM Ktieulie - 2013-01-10 9:02 AM yeah just sounds like too much too fast, I would concentrate on lower wieght/resistance and more reps! equates to the same amount of work with out excess strain, it should save your legs(and avoid walking like a duck!) Now I have a question, with the ridiculous hours I work, should I try to squeeze in the extra miles now and again (and give up an hour sleep) to get in a longer run/bike, or just stick to my 40-60 min sessions and continue to build base?
For me, and I work some crazy hours sometimes myself, I always shut it down if it gets too late. My minimum I would like to get is 5 hours sleep. If I won't be able to do that, I skip the workout. I'm curious to see what Tony says about this though! 5 hours wouldn't be enough for me to recover from a tough workout. 5 hours nightly wouldn't be enough for me to consistently get quality workouts. I could get my workout time in, but I would have good workouts with much less consistency. I always feel that quality of the workout is as important as the quantity. I aim for 7 a night, and that's tough. I don't have crazy hours at work, but I do have a significant amount of work to do outside of normal work hours (by nature of my job). If I know that I'll need more sleep, I will skip a morning workout and get an extra hour. I definitely notice the difference. Anyway...that's how I see it. Medium 8 mile run after work today. Good luck!
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks, Tony! Yesterday the fatigue was still in my bones. I used my rest day and I'll be doing my 8 mile run at lunch today. Yesterday I ate a ton of quinoa at dinner, a couple tablespoons of Nutella, and a little of the potatoes I made for dinner. I have cut out the pasta, sugar, rice, and white potatoes, and I don't think I'm getting enough alternative carbs in with the schedule I've had. I think I'll keep the quinoa in. I do a recovery beverage for training over an hour and I pack a cooler with it when I'm away from home, especially after brick sessions, which I only do because I don't have enough time in my week for the kind of training I need. In my cooler I have water, my recovery drink, gatorade, and bananas, apples, and at something like a clif bar. I've read you benefit most if you consume within 15 minutes post workout, no later than 1/2 an hour. K, off to work. Happy Xterra training! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Meulen - 2013-01-10 9:13 AM Ktieulie - 2013-01-10 9:02 AM yeah just sounds like too much too fast, I would concentrate on lower wieght/resistance and more reps! equates to the same amount of work with out excess strain, it should save your legs(and avoid walking like a duck!) Now I have a question, with the ridiculous hours I work, should I try to squeeze in the extra miles now and again (and give up an hour sleep) to get in a longer run/bike, or just stick to my 40-60 min sessions and continue to build base?
For me, and I work some crazy hours sometimes myself, I always shut it down if it gets too late. My minimum I would like to get is 5 hours sleep. If I won't be able to do that, I skip the workout. I'm curious to see what Tony says about this though! You know my response... HTFU... Yeah its tough with busy scheduled and everyone is different. If 5 hours works for you, then go for it. Not too much too soon; well OK maybe it is. But it's designed to be, afterall its January in Chicago! So, better to break you now, then build you up for your next race. HTFU the rest of the week, next week looks easy. In regards to the lower weight / high rep - that doesn't make you strong. Think about cycling; thats already a HIGH rep / low weight workout. Mimicking that in the gym is worthless. It's called STRENGTH training. It SUCKS doing it and makes you hurt (I just started this week and can barely walk! LOL), but, once it all comes together its REALLY worth it. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ktieulie - 2013-01-10 9:02 AM yeah just sounds like too much too fast, I would concentrate on lower wieght/resistance and more reps! equates to the same amount of work with out excess strain, it should save your legs(and avoid walking like a duck!) Now I have a question, with the ridiculous hours I work, should I try to squeeze in the extra miles now and again (and give up an hour sleep) to get in a longer run/bike, or just stick to my 40-60 min sessions and continue to build base? You can always work on the speed work (low volume high intensity) stuff while your workout; and rest days (stretching, foam rolling, etc). Then when your off focus on the extra miles. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() yay that's what I was kinda planning, as to the strength training pain going away, it really does after a while. |
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